Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max II

[twix2500]

It's a defining moment. We need to be absolutely certain that hassan is the right choice. I love him on the team, but I do see that he's an odd fit for what Spo is trying to do.

Our severe lack of shooting is an odd fit for what Spo is trying to do

He wants to score in the paint, play tenacious defense to get fast breaks, and move quickly down the court. If you do all those things well, you will have wide open shots at the perimeter, but - yes - you have to convert. Joe Johnson, Josh Richardson, Tyler Johnson, and Luol Deng can all benefit. If Wade and Dragic come back as legitimate 3 point options, we are going to look real smart. If not... well, let's not talk about that yet.

Did you just say Wade as 3 pt option?

[Heat3]

Portland GS, lakers... wow. Miami Heat

[Hoops23]

After hassan's last interview. He clearly is looking for a max contract. That he will stay with Miami becuase they can offer him more money coz of the much larger raise increase.

I begin to appreciate now, players like DeRozan who said they will give their current teams a priority. Hassan's priority is money. That show his character.

I bet Riley has a plan B for the center position if Hassan leaves for another team. Horford, Dwight or noah as the least maybe. If one of Horford or DH ask less than 20m, and Im in command, i'll let hassan walk. Not that i am going for cheap contract but Heat can use the other money for another free agent.

Question, miami has an early bird right to hassan, can Miami do a sign & trade to help hassan and the team get a pick and/or player?? anyone?

[QUIZ]

^I wonder how 'loyal' DeRozan would be if Toronto didn't offer him a 5th year of $30mill+ guarenteed money...

Spare the Hassan's character bs. If he had torn his ACL vs the Raptors and was expected to miss most if not all of next season would you still want/expect the Heat to hand him a 4yr $90mill deal?

Of course not because the NBA is a business. Hassan being noncommittal is how you force the team you want to be on pay you the money that you want to receive.

An athletes got a decade in them of peak athleticism if they're lucky. I'd never look down on someone trying to cash in when they can because their entire lives or careers rather are fleeting.

[NowLarry]

I think if he resigns and doesn't keep getting better than Heat fans will want him traded. As much as Heat are wanting loyalty from him I feel the first sign of him regressing yall will want him gone.

Still hard to want to max out a guy thats only been good a little while, look at Jeremy Lin, even old Heat alum Ike Austin. In the back of your mind you feel like maybe they can regress to sucking again.

Guys that barely were able to stick in the league to begin with rarely become Alonzo Morning elite just because they got a fat contract. I dont think Whiteside would ever turn in a Jerome James but he could be injury prone down the line.

On the other hand you got guys like Arenas and Redd who earned the max but wore their knees out working hard in the gym than being a day one superstar like Durant or Melo or Lebron. Their careers were short peaked and short lived. Still something to be said about not being highly touted out of HS or college. The scouts usually know stuff we fans down realize longterm with players. OJ Mayo didn't turn into a superstar as a highly touted played but he will probably be in the league just as long as Richard Jefferson, might even outlast Whiteside who is hot news today but what about 2018?

Only guy I can think of center wise that got max money that was drafted late was DeAndre Jordan and I am not sure Clips fans feel like he was worth it. Mavs fans feel like they dodged a bullet. He still has the same holes in his game that scared scouts to take him in the 1st round.

I guess I am saying I feel better at night paying the max to a guy who was good from day 1 in the league, like a Duncan.

[gom]

Our severe lack of shooting is an odd fit for what Spo is trying to do

He wants to score in the paint, play tenacious defense to get fast breaks, and move quickly down the court. If you do all those things well, you will have wide open shots at the perimeter, but - yes - you have to convert. Joe Johnson, Josh Richardson, Tyler Johnson, and Luol Deng can all benefit. If Wade and Dragic come back as legitimate 3 point options, we are going to look real smart. If not... well, let's not talk about that yet.

Did you just say Wade as 3 pt option?

It's a necessary change he'll have to make if he wants to play at 37.

[ZoStrong]

Spoiler:

He wants to score in the paint, play tenacious defense to get fast breaks, and move quickly down the court. If you do all those things well, you will have wide open shots at the perimeter, but - yes - you have to convert. Joe Johnson, Josh Richardson, Tyler Johnson, and Luol Deng can all benefit. If Wade and Dragic come back as legitimate 3 point options, we are going to look real smart. If not... well, let's not talk about that yet.

Did you just say Wade as 3 pt option?

It's a necessary change he'll have to make if he wants to play at 37.

3 point shooting. It's so easy even a caveman can do it!

Haha, wish it was that simple. Teams will leave him alone to prove he has the stroke each game.

[HIF]

PAY HIM THE MONEY!

[3ballbomber]

Hassan talking it up & gettin' all slick.....i betcha Riles performs a miracle & signs KD he'll be changing his tune & be all over Miami's jock.

[gom]

Spoiler:

Did you just say Wade as 3 pt option?

It's a necessary change he'll have to make if he wants to play at 37.

3 point shooting. It's so easy even a caveman can do it!

Haha, wish it was that simple. Teams will leave him alone to prove he has the stroke each game.

You are right, but I believe Wade can do it. Actually my faith in him is enormous. He always finds a way to win.

[ndnow]

Hassan talking it up & gettin' all slick.....i betcha Riles performs a miracle & signs KD he'll be changing his tune & be all over Miami's jock.

If you have him on snap chat you'll see him still in Miami with his Miami Heat shirts on all the time having a great time.

[KingDavid]

I think if he resigns and doesn't keep getting better than Heat fans will want him traded. As much as Heat are wanting loyalty from him I feel the first sign of him regressing yall will want him gone.

Still hard to want to max out a guy thats only been good a little while, look at Jeremy Lin, even old Heat alum Ike Austin. In the back of your mind you feel like maybe they can regress to sucking again.

Guys that barely were able to stick in the league to begin with rarely become Alonzo Morning elite just because they got a fat contract. I dont think Whiteside would ever turn in a Jerome James but he could be injury prone down the line.

On the other hand you got guys like Arenas and Redd who earned the max but wore their knees out working hard in the gym than being a day one superstar like Durant or Melo or Lebron. Their careers were short peaked and short lived. Still something to be said about not being highly touted out of HS or college. The scouts usually know stuff we fans down realize longterm with players. OJ Mayo didn't turn into a superstar as a highly touted played but he will probably be in the league just as long as Richard Jefferson, might even outlast Whiteside who is hot news today but what about 2018?

Only guy I can think of center wise that got max money that was drafted late was DeAndre Jordan and I am not sure Clips fans feel like he was worth it. Mavs fans feel like they dodged a bullet. He still has the same holes in his game that scared scouts to take him in the 1st round.

I guess I am saying I feel better at night paying the max to a guy who was good from day 1 in the league, like a Duncan.

Thanks for stopping by!

You make some good points. You're right. If he doesn't perform up to his contract, or regressed, yes we'd want him traded. That goes for any player playing like crap. This is Hassan's only chance at a max contract or something close, I don't blame him for going after the money. He hasn't been making millions of dollars over his career that he can sit on and afford a discount. He has to cash in now. That's why I wouldn't be upset if he left. I'd be very sad and upset with the organization if it was for no reason. But I understand the business side of it now. Now I hope he doesn't leave, but if he does, I hope he goes to the Lakers for the max. That would be the very best for his brand...if they don't crash and burn.

[Bourne85]

IMO he is gone, big time.

And if he does leave the heat need to be VERY careful how they proceed on spending this cap space.

Right now I see no possible team that we could assemble (Besides KD) that can compete with the top dogs of the league.

There is only one FA right now that can POSSIBLY get us there and that's KD. I don't think he is coming.

So what do we do? Nothing. We pay Wade a hefty contract that expires with Bosh, Dragic timeline. And when all 3 of their contracts are up we will have all the cap space to assemble a final team for Riley to retire.

The worst thing we could do is overpay for average Guys like Batum Derozan etc. During a time that the superior opposition is simply far better than us.

Let the Warriors Spurs Cavs etc play it out.

2-3 years from now is our Window to assemble a force with maximum cap space. Wade Bosh will retire, Justise will hopefully have grown into a star/borderline star. Right now it is simply not our time.

[batterybro42]

IMO he is gone, big time.

And if he does leave the heat need to be VERY careful how they proceed on spending this cap space.

Right now I see no possible team that we could assemble (Besides KD) that can compete with the top dogs of the league.

There is only one FA right now that can POSSIBLY get us there and that's KD. I don't think he is coming.

So what do we do? Nothing. We pay Wade a hefty contract that expires with Bosh, Dragic timeline. And when all 3 of their contracts are up we will have all the cap space to assemble a final team for Riley to retire.

The worst thing we could do is overpay for average Guys like Batum Derozan etc. During a time that the superior opposition is simply far better than us.

Let the Warriors Spurs Cavs etc play it out.

2-3 years from now is our Window to assemble a force with maximum cap space. Wade Bosh will retire, Justise will hopefully have grown into a star/borderline star. Right now it is simply not our time.

Step back from the ledge

You lack vision

Hassan has been pro Heat since we signed him, and his life is very much in South Beach

Has it ever occurred to anybody that Hassan was basically trolled by every NBA team for 6 years until he found a home here. He couldn't even get a workout by most of the team pursuing him. Would it come across to you guys that he might be taking this opportunity to do a little trolling of his own?

Think about it. Riley met with him 2 weeks ago. I know if I was Riley and pursuing KD I'd tell Hassan to do exactly what he's doing. Build hype and questions around his free agency....then announce in a big way he's committed to Miami and what we are doing July 1st. This does one thing that's a major key for us....build momentum. The type of momentum we generated by signing Bosh before LeBron, the type of buzz that casts a positive imagine of the Heat.

These are little things a master pitch man like Riley would build into this meeting.

I just see a lot of people short changing a man dubbed the God Father

[MFlash321]

I'm fine with Hassan wanting to cash in.

These players owe us nothing and they shouldn't take discounts to please us. At this point, I'm considering HW gone and looking forward to what lies ahead.

[Jody Smokz]

I dont think you can draw much from any of his comments. Im sure his first priority is to stay in Miami but realistically if Pat wants a real team back next season he has to choose 1. Whiteside and Wade with no real depth, 2. Whiteside and depth with no Wade or 3. Wade with depth and no Whiteside.

A few people have mentioned that Wade would take a pay cut, which I dont doubt but I dont see Wade taking 12-15M after giving whiteside a max to get other quality guys in. What say you? Wade or Whiteside if you had to choose?

[Kingsway_fan]

Pay Wade! let the others walk ...

[dolphinatik]

I dont think most posters expected Hassan to get this much attention. To me he is as good as gone since midseason. In the playoffs we really went back to our old strats and that might have just sealed it. Some team will woo him and history says its Portland or Dallas. He would be a fool to go to LA after the Lakers tried the same thing with Dwight then turned on him just as fast. Dallas has their own problems since they didnt build around Dirk enough what would make u think they will get Whiteside any good teammates. Which leaves Portland as the likely landing spot. Young capable backcourt, a big behind him as a backup they would only need to solidify the backup sf spot and hope that Vonleh can blossom. Darkhorse is Washington if they could sign Durant then Whiteside would be the perfect fit.

Of course if he were to consider the Heat then what would make him think something would be different than last year? Either way the Heat will be fine with or without. WE thrive on hungry players, biggest questionmark on Whiteside is if he will stay hungry once he is paid.

[CrossOver]

Whiteside may have inadvertently announced that he's going to LA via trying to slide into some woman's DM's on twitter.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/genocideblacks/status/747615914820984832[/tweet]

lmao that's almost too good to believe

[MettaWorldPanda]

Whiteside may have inadvertently announced that he's going to LA via trying to slide into some woman's DM's on twitter.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/genocideblacks/status/747615914820984832[/tweet]

lmao that's almost too good to believe

Fake.