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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Internal improvement 

Post#21 » by DetroitSho » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:40 pm

mercury wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
Scout Taron wrote:I would like to almost completely abandon postups to Andre until he proves he can be effecient/pass out/etc. Was one of the worst post up players in the NBA last year.

How do you improve on something by abandoning it?

This... His efficiency is much higher when he make the effort to get deep position... if he uses his angles properly there is no 5 man that can keep him out of the paint. Dre has nice touch as long as he's not attempting 12 foot hooks.
He can get help shaking loose with back screens.
Looking forward to seeing new variations from the basic sets... good thread and a litmus test for our coaching staff.

Also a good entry pass goes a long way.
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Re: Internal improvement 

Post#22 » by Scout Taron » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:52 pm

MrBigShot wrote:
Scout Taron wrote:I would like to almost completely abandon postups to Andre until he proves he can be effecient/pass out/etc. Was one of the worst post up players in the NBA last year.


A combination of practice + film + game experience is the best way to learn. He will have growing pains but he's suppose to be our franchise guy, and being able to get his own bucket in isolation and learn to pass out of the post will be critical for his development. We don't to totally force feed him all game like we were doing at the beginning of his 3rd year, but he needs opportunities. He can't prove that he can be efficient in the post if we never let him do it in game.

I share the sentiments of other posters that I want our offense to be more dynamic. We'll be more dangerous when there is less pressure on Reggie to handle nearly all of the shot creation. When we can dump it into Dre or Morris for a post up, let Harris or Stanley work on at the elbow or operate on the ball in P&Rs, run KCP off screens and if all else fails just go to the classic Reggie & Dre pick and roll.

Honestly, I am not a fan of post offense in general, so I am not super concerned about Drummond needing to develop it. It really really tanked our offense last season, and pretty much no one in the NBA is actually good at post offense.

Here's a chart compiled in early January.

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Despite being fed a TON of attempts, he was one of the worst postup players in the NBA, and even if he improves significantly, the upside is not pretty.

Sure, give him a few, but I don't really want to waste 6+ possessions a game on Dre backing his guy down and throwing up a hook (without even attempting or threatening a counter). It was incredible. Out of all of Dre's post attempts last year, there had to be less than 10 or so that were not the exact same move (back down then jumphook). I don't know how he is learning and developing if he doesn't even try anything else.

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