Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team)

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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#121 » by sportscrazy » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:07 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:Well, I PM'd the most recent posters on the Houston and Cleveland forums but those are mostly dead so it will probably be difficult to find fans of those teams to participate. I also PM'd a different Atlanta fan who has done games before.


If Bondom feels like taking the Thunder I can pick up Cleveland or Atlanta.


You got Atlanta
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#122 » by stylesofpunk » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:08 pm

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sportscrazy wrote:
If Bondom feels like taking the Thunder I can pick up Cleveland or Atlanta.

I can do it, thought I saw it was taken on the first page, its pretty uneventful.


Not sure how sportscrazy got quoted there, but dbrandon said he'd take Cleveland or Atlanta if you took OKC.



In a post earlier jayjaysee said he would take cleveland just letting people know
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#123 » by Andre Roberstan » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:09 pm

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dbrandon wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Well, I PM'd the most recent posters on the Houston and Cleveland forums but those are mostly dead so it will probably be difficult to find fans of those teams to participate. I also PM'd a different Atlanta fan who has done games before.


If Bondom feels like taking the Thunder I can pick up Cleveland or Atlanta.


You got Atlanta


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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#124 » by sportscrazy » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:09 pm

We just need Houston or San Antonio now and we're good with HW taking the other.
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#125 » by bondom34 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:09 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
sportscrazy wrote:
If Bondom feels like taking the Thunder I can pick up Cleveland or Atlanta.

I can do it, thought I saw it was taken on the first page, its pretty uneventful.


Not sure how sportscrazy got quoted there, but dbrandon said he'd take Cleveland or Atlanta if you took OKC.

Works for me, what do I need to do?
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#126 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:14 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:
bondom34 wrote:I can do it, thought I saw it was taken on the first page, its pretty uneventful.


Not sure how sportscrazy got quoted there, but dbrandon said he'd take Cleveland or Atlanta if you took OKC.

Works for me, what do I need to do?


I guess just wait until it starts. Should be soon. One more owner needed I think.
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#127 » by stylesofpunk » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:33 pm

should we get this stickied so it dont get lost in the shuffle?
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#128 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:37 pm

sportscrazy wrote:We just need Houston or San Antonio now and we're good with HW taking the other.


Well an Atlanta poster I had PM'd just PM'd me back saying "looks like someone beat me to it" but if he took Atlanta and dbrandon took one of the other two with HW taking the last one, we'd probably be good to go. Though I'm not sure if he was interested or not. He definitely took a look at it and saw the spot was taken though.
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#129 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:38 pm

stylesofpunk wrote:should we get this stickied so it dont get lost in the shuffle?


I highly doubt it will get lost once it starts.
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#130 » by sportscrazy » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:43 pm

I guess I can start to explain and catch up whoever we get for the last spot to answer any questions you may have.

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Here's how it works:
I will post sometime tonight, letting you know about Team Options and when you have to excercise them by based on real life reflections. I will also post any retirements, player options, etc. that I think are realistic.

As a result I will use Smitty's salary cap spread sheet to let you know how much cap space you have based on salaries, draft picks, cap holds, etc. Keep in mind if you waive a cap hold for a player, you will have that much more in cap space minus $543,471 for every roster spot under 12.

This will be one thread for each day that gives viewers a front stage seat to the behind the scenes that take place in terms of trades and free agency negotiations with my role being the agent for every player.

You will negotiate trades in this thread with other GM's. Once it is completed and agreed to by both sides, each side needs to send me a PM letting me know that they agreed and I will include it in my nightly re-cap of the days transactions.

The point of this is to accurately reflect based on your teams ownership style, player fit in your coaches style, team direction (tanking, going for it all, just trying to make the playoffs, keep flexibility open for next off-season, etc.) and other factors based on a realistic and consistent vision you have for your teams off-season. This is not to finish with the best 15 man roster you can create because keep in mind chemistry is an issue as well. This is to finish with the best possible outcome for your team and its fans both in the short-term and long-term of the franchise's best interests. Trading all of your young players for win now players may not be the best, tying up your long term salary options may not be the best. You will not be assessed on how good your team is at the end of this, but more so how well you maintained that teams goals in terms of youth development, cap flexibility, and other factors that may be important to your team.

Trades
You can post trade offers in each day's thread as well as who is on the trade block and receive offers. Negotiations can take place and another GM can jump in at any time as a third or fourth team to make it work, or just kick you out of the deal altogether if they have a better offer. Once it is agreed to by both sides, it isn't finalized until I receive a PM from both sides showing the same deal.

Free Agents
Free agency negotiations will take place throughout each days threads. You will make a financial offer based on your actual cap space or cap space you could create or have created via trade as well as a sales pitch as to why that free agent should take your offer over another team's offer. Not every free agent will take an offer they are given on the day they receive it so you can retract any offer until the close of the day when it will either be accepted or not. The reason strategy is placed on this is because for example, the Heat could go all in on a Durant pursuit, but Durant may not make his decision until the close out of Day 2 while Hassan Whiteside may make his decision at the close out of Day 1. Some one could pick up lesser free agents on Day 1 as the better free agents are pursued by other teams.

I will take reality into account, for example Dirk Nowitzki may agree to take less money if Dallas gets certain players around him or may wait to take an offer elsewhere until Dallas makes or does not make certain moves. Some players may be more loyal to their franchise than others and give this grace to their team.

In regards to restricted free agents, when they accept a deal at the close out of one day, the original team of that player has until the end of the close out of the next day to match that offer. If it isn't matched by then, he will take the offer and leave your team.
Close out will take place at 11:00 PM ET each day, so any offers going in after that time will not be considered until the following day if that free agent doesn't sign somewhere else already.

Schedule:
Day 1 (Wednesday, 06/29/2016)
Day 2 (Thursday, 06/30/2016)
Day 3 (Friday, 07/01/2016)
Day 4 (Saturday, 07/02/2016)
Day 5 (Sunday, 07/03/2016)

Sunday at 11:00 PM ET is the time it will end the off-season and your final 15 man roster will be the result.

As a side note, as the agent, I will control player opt outs that are still up for grabs, No Trade Clauses, retirements, etc. on top of free agent signing decisions. I will also chime in throughout the thread in specific situations, for example the Warriors want Kevin Durant, but will not clear the cap space it takes for his MAX salary without a commitment from him. I will chime in and let the Warriors GM know that if he can create that cap space, Durant will sign there if they make the best sales pitch.

The reason I think free agent negotiations and trade negotiations should be in the thread is first and foremost for the entertainment value of viewers that are just keeping an eye on the thread, but not participating themselves. I also think see other teams offers will create bidding wars that will reflect the final realistic salaries we will see this off-season with the raised cap as well as keep trade value honest. If you say Player X is worth this much, then the other team could say, but no one else offered that much, take another teams offer if you think it's better than mine.

I'm sure you all have additional questions, so please let me know them in this thread for the others to see and I will address them all before Day 1 opens tomorrow.
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#131 » by stylesofpunk » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:51 pm

Time to offer Anthony Bennett a max contract jk guys
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#132 » by jbk1234 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:53 pm

I wanted to do the Cavs but I just know that the entire off season is going to be a tug of war between Klutch and the Cavs over JR's contract. They'll be limited to league minimum contracts until that's resolved and it could go all the way till the season starts.
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#133 » by sportscrazy » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:55 pm

jbk1234 wrote:I wanted to do the Cavs but I just know that the entire off season is going to be a tug of war between Klutch and the Cavs over JR's contract. They'll be limited to league minimum contracts until that's resolved and it could go all the way till the season starts.


You want the Spurs? Or Rockets?
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#134 » by jbk1234 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:57 pm

sportscrazy wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:I wanted to do the Cavs but I just know that the entire off season is going to be a tug of war between Klutch and the Cavs over JR's contract. They'll be limited to league minimum contracts until that's resolved and it could go all the way till the season starts.


You want the Spurs? Or Rockets?



Honestly, this seems like a lot of fun but I have the type of job where I could be out of pocket for 48-72 hours so I really shouldn't commit.
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#135 » by sportscrazy » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:01 pm

Goober wrote:I'm considering whether I can do GMAT and this is well, let me think for a while and I will get back to this thread.


You want the Spurs or Rockets?
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#136 » by jayjaysee » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:03 pm

jbk1234 wrote:I wanted to do the Cavs but I just know that the entire off season is going to be a tug of war between Klutch and the Cavs over JR's contract. They'll be limited to league minimum contracts until that's resolved and it could go all the way till the season starts.


Please do. You'd be much better than me obviously. I was a coin flip from taking Atlanta. I agree there isn't realistically much to be done, though Shump+Frye weren't in my vision.

sportscrazy wrote:...


Nothing is official til tonight? Better to have an actual Cleveland fan, especially one that didn't panic and create Love trades either other game this season.

edit - just saw the later posts so... forget this one?
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#137 » by BullyKing » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:06 pm

Question:

Should we be negotiating trades in the thread or through PMs and just report a finalized trade?
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#138 » by sportscrazy » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:08 pm

BullyKing wrote:Question:

Should we be negotiating trades in the thread or through PMs and just report a finalized trade?


Negotiations of trades will be in the thread, I think this makes it more entertaining and keeps trade value more honest.
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#139 » by BullyKing » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:10 pm

sportscrazy wrote:
BullyKing wrote:Question:

Should we be negotiating trades in the thread or through PMs and just report a finalized trade?


Negotiations of trades will be in the thread, I think this makes it more entertaining and keeps trade value more honest.


No problems, will do.
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Re: Post-Draft Mock Off-Season (GM Your Favorite Team) 

Post#140 » by nodeal » Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:23 pm

I think this could be stretched out a bit more?


Toronto Raptors
Its no secret the raptors want to re-sign Biz and Biz wants to re-sign. Looking to clear some cap to make it happen. Im not going to give players away.

Jonas Valanciunas C 24 $14,382,022 $15,460,674 $16,539,326 $17,617,978
DeMarre Carroll SF 29 $14,200,000 $14,800,000 $15,400,000 UFA
Kyle Lowry PG 30 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 UFA -
Terrence Ross SF 25 $10,000,000 $10,500,000 $10,500,000 UFA
Cory Joseph PG 24 $7,315,000 $7,630,000 $7,945,000 UFA
Patrick Patterson PF 27 $6,050,000 UFA - -
Lucas Nogueira C 23 $1,921,320 $2,947,305 RFA -
Bruno Caboclo SF 20 $1,589,640 $2,451,225 RFA -
Delon Wright PG 24 $1,577,280 $1,645,200 $2,536,898 RFA
Norman Powell SG 23 $874,636 $1,014,746 RFA -
Jakob Poeltl C un-signed
Pascal Siakam PF un-signed

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