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Post#61 » by coordinator0 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:08 pm

His sheet (which is the same as mine sans the 120% slot for Ellenson and already adding Gbinije) has all of the unguaranteed contracts besides Hilliard cut and the cap holds for Tolliver and Blake renounced. Another move still has to be made for a max contract. Most likely offloading Bullock for nothing.
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Re: Offseason Summary 

Post#62 » by sfballa13 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:13 pm

Would you guys rather have

Horford + no one at PG

or

Lin + Teletovic + a veteran SG
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Post#63 » by coordinator0 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:17 pm

Horford and a veteran's minimum point guard. He's that much better than Lin and Teletovic combined. There wouldn't be any cap space leftover for a veteran shooting guard after signing those two.
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Re: Offseason Summary 

Post#64 » by The Penguin » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:18 pm

sfballa13 wrote:Would you guys rather have

Horford + no one at PG

or

Lin + Teletovic + a veteran SG



I would much rather have Horford and an open camp competition in hopes of finding the next Will Bynum than to give $25 mil to Lin & Teletovic.
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Re: Offseason Summary 

Post#65 » by whitehops » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:22 pm

Joe Berry wrote:Great work, Horfords max salary would start at 26.6 mil if the cap stays at $94 mil btw. So trading Bullock for cap would make it possible now without dealing Baynes or anyone else.


i think going after horford would be good but it would put us in a pretty serious bind to get a decent backup PG. if we used all of our room to get horford we'd only have the MLE which is about $5.5 million and that's going to be almost dumpster diving considering the contracts that will be given out this offseason.

zeebneeb wrote:Or just cut Anthony right? One would think that would be easier.


in my "projected cap space" i already have us cutting anthony. essentially what i have is the max possible space we could have (except for trades). i've seen some different numbers though and i'm not sure why they're different.
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Re: Offseason Summary 

Post#66 » by zeebneeb » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:24 pm

Cool beans whitehops. Gonna be interesting to see what happens in the next few days, and if Stan makes an additional trade, we know for sure he is clearing max room.
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Post#67 » by coordinator0 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:27 pm

whitehops wrote:in my "projected cap space" i already have us cutting anthony. essentially what i have is the max possible space we could have (except for trades). i've seen some different numbers though and i'm not sure why they're different.


Are you talking about the ~$21 million number thrown around by Marks and Beard? I'm not sure where that's coming from either unless they're not expecting Tolliver's cap hold to be renounced. The new salary pages that Marks does for The Vertical even have all of the same numbers, I'm just not sure what he's counting.
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Re: Offseason Summary 

Post#68 » by sfballa13 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:28 pm

The Penguin wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:Would you guys rather have

Horford + no one at PG

or

Lin + Teletovic + a veteran SG



I would much rather have Horford and an open camp competition in hopes of finding the next Will Bynum than to give $25 mil to Lin & Teletovic.


But what if we go for Horford and strike out and end up paying two players much worse than Lin/Teletovic 25M?

Lin is a perfect back up PG who will thrive under SVG

Teletovic was #3 in 3pt percentage and the best bench 3PT shooter in the league i believe
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Re: Offseason Summary 

Post#69 » by The Penguin » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:38 pm

sfballa13 wrote:
The Penguin wrote:
sfballa13 wrote:Would you guys rather have

Horford + no one at PG

or

Lin + Teletovic + a veteran SG



I would much rather have Horford and an open camp competition in hopes of finding the next Will Bynum than to give $25 mil to Lin & Teletovic.


But what if we go for Horford and strike out and end up paying two players much worse than Lin/Teletovic 25M?

Lin is a perfect back up PG who will thrive under SVG

Teletovic was #3 in 3pt percentage and the best bench 3PT shooter in the league i believe



First off, I think a team like Brooklyn or Sacramento is going to offer Lin a shot at a starting job. I worry about him being a contract year guy, he's had useless years followed by extremely productive years falling at a convenient time.


I don't see much difference between Teletovic and Ilyasova. Their career 3 PT % is nearly identical and Ersan is bigger than him and can rebound better.
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Re: Offseason Summary 

Post#70 » by Joe Berry » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:26 pm

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whitehops wrote:in my "projected cap space" i already have us cutting anthony. essentially what i have is the max possible space we could have (except for trades). i've seen some different numbers though and i'm not sure why they're different.


Are you talking about the ~$21 million number thrown around by Marks and Beard? I'm not sure where that's coming from either unless they're not expecting Tolliver's cap hold to be renounced. The new salary pages that Marks does for The Vertical even have all of the same numbers, I'm just not sure what he's counting.


Marks is counting the capholds of both Blake and Tolliver, if you renounce both and let go Anthony, Bairstow and Brown with their un unguaranteed contracts whitehops is correct with his projected cap. Beard and every other beatwriter have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the salary cap. :lol:
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Re: Offseason Summary 

Post#71 » by Joe Berry » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:33 pm

whitehops wrote:
Joe Berry wrote:Great work, Horfords max salary would start at 26.6 mil if the cap stays at $94 mil btw. So trading Bullock for cap would make it possible now without dealing Baynes or anyone else.


i think going after horford would be good but it would put us in a pretty serious bind to get a decent backup PG. if we used all of our room to get horford we'd only have the MLE which is about $5.5 million and that's going to be almost dumpster diving considering the contracts that will be given out this offseason.


The Pistons won't have the MLE available this offseason since they are under the cap. Just the room exception which is about $ 3 mil.
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Re: Offseason Summary 

Post#72 » by whitehops » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:53 pm

Joe Berry wrote:The Pistons won't have the MLE available this offseason since they are under the cap. Just the room exception which is about $ 3 mil.


thanks. i try to learn about the CBA as situations arise and exceptions aren't in my wheelhouse yet.

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