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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1101 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:03 am

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Oneluckbox wrote:Anyone keen on Dellavedova as the backup PG? Seems like a pretty good fit - can shoot the 3 at a decent clip, can play D, good playmaker, doesn't turn it over much. I'm not sure how much he would get payed though. Would it in the 6-8 range?

At a few million, sure. Word is he might get over $10 million. I don't think a scrappy little Steve Blake 2.0 is worth that much.


Jesus... Maybe I'm just not adjusting to these numbers and that's a rational deal in the new NBA. Yeah, I mean, he's basically this era's Steve Blake. Seems a fine player and all but would need to be at the right price for what he would bring. Over 10 doesn't feel like the right price.

Is he restricted?
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1102 » by Norm2953 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:09 am

I do find it hilarious that looking over various boards, I see $15-17 Million year contracts being
equated to $8-10 Million two years ago. Irregardless of rise in the cap, its still $7 Million/year
for the same type of players which is not peanuts.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1103 » by Oneluckbox » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:12 am

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Oneluckbox wrote:Anyone keen on Dellavedova as the backup PG? Seems like a pretty good fit - can shoot the 3 at a decent clip, can play D, good playmaker, doesn't turn it over much. I'm not sure how much he would get payed though. Would it in the 6-8 range?

At a few million, sure. Word is he might get over $10 million. I don't think a scrappy little Steve Blake 2.0 is worth that much.


Yup, Fox Sports is reporting that he'll get upto 10m and if he does sign for that its definitely too much. However I reckon he'll get 7-8m and for that price I would for sure take him. Steve Blake comparison is reasonable but I wouldn't call him Blake 2.0. He's a better shooter, better defender, probably more consistent (Finals aside) and isn't an old man too :lol: I love me some Delly so there's a bit of bias included but as for backup PGs, I feel like hes probably the most realistic target.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1104 » by deanwoof » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:15 am

The fact that Lue went with Mo Williams in the finals says something?

Also p, let's not go after delly. I don't want cheap shot on my team.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1105 » by Oneluckbox » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:15 am

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Oneluckbox wrote:Anyone keen on Dellavedova as the backup PG? Seems like a pretty good fit - can shoot the 3 at a decent clip, can play D, good playmaker, doesn't turn it over much. I'm not sure how much he would get payed though. Would it in the 6-8 range?

At a few million, sure. Word is he might get over $10 million. I don't think a scrappy little Steve Blake 2.0 is worth that much.


Jesus... Maybe I'm just not adjusting to these numbers and that's a rational deal in the new NBA. Yeah, I mean, he's basically this era's Steve Blake. Seems a fine player and all but would need to be at the right price for what he would bring. Over 10 doesn't feel like the right price.

Is he restricted?


Yeah My Delly Bias probably a bit too strong atm. He's restricted and said he wants to stay in Cle, but if someone offers big for him Cleveland will probably just let him leave.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1106 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:17 am

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Masterfully wrote:At a few million, sure. Word is he might get over $10 million. I don't think a scrappy little Steve Blake 2.0 is worth that much.


Jesus... Maybe I'm just not adjusting to these numbers and that's a rational deal in the new NBA. Yeah, I mean, he's basically this era's Steve Blake. Seems a fine player and all but would need to be at the right price for what he would bring. Over 10 doesn't feel like the right price.

Is he restricted?


Yeah My Delly Bias probably a bit too strong atm. He's restricted and said he wants to stay in Cle, but if someone offers big for him Cleveland will probably just let him leave.


That explains a bit more why his price-tag is at that then. Delly isn't a bad fit honestly, but I'm swearing off RFA's this summer. I just see them all as terrible investments. You have to pay nearly double what they're worth to pry them from their home-team and there should be plenty of value options out there to provide backup minutes at a fraction the cost.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1107 » by Oneluckbox » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:22 am

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Jesus... Maybe I'm just not adjusting to these numbers and that's a rational deal in the new NBA. Yeah, I mean, he's basically this era's Steve Blake. Seems a fine player and all but would need to be at the right price for what he would bring. Over 10 doesn't feel like the right price.

Is he restricted?


Yeah My Delly Bias probably a bit too strong atm. He's restricted and said he wants to stay in Cle, but if someone offers big for him Cleveland will probably just let him leave.


That explains a bit more why his price-tag is at that then. Delly isn't a bad fit honestly, but I'm swearing off RFA's this summer. I just see them all as terrible investments. You have to pay nearly double what they're worth to pry them from their home-team and there should be plenty of value options out there to provide backup minutes at a fraction the cost.


Very true. Just been looking over the other PG options and most are probably on par with Delly or better in certain situations. Norris Cole, Chalmers, Frazier, Johnson are all unrestricted and probably just as good.

Just want another Australian on the team tbh :D
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1108 » by PDXKnight » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:29 am

If Joakim does indeed go for 18 million per I can only imagine what someone will pay Mason Plumlee next season.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1109 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:35 am

Oneluckbox wrote:Just want another Australian on the team tbh :D


I had a hunch lol.

Oden2 wrote:If Joakim does indeed go for 18 million per I can only imagine what someone will pay Mason Plumlee next season.


Mason will be restricted, which means the same problems the Blazers have with their restricted guys this year. Guess it depends on his role and how he produces. Assuming Portland gets a big and Mason is relegated to a backup role, I think you may be looking at offers of 14mil. If he has anything resembling a good season and gets starter minutes or enough to really produce, that number could balloon quick.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1110 » by The Sebastian Express » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:43 am

DusterBuster wrote:Another NBA talking head saying Dwight may actually come at a pretty big discount:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/hoopscritic/status/748370231421210624[/tweet]

And an NBATV anchor and Brent Barry weigh in on Dwight in Portland:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Vince_Cellini/status/748372901716434948[/tweet]


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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1111 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:48 am

The Sebastian Express wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:Another NBA talking head saying Dwight may actually come at a pretty big discount:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/hoopscritic/status/748370231421210624[/tweet]

And an NBATV anchor and Brent Barry weigh in on Dwight in Portland:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Vince_Cellini/status/748372901716434948[/tweet]


DWIGHT!


The one team that worries me with him is the Celtics. If they go after him, they've got a lot of similar things they can offer him as the Blazers and one advantage. Unlike Portland, they have no real star there. They're a good collection of talent, but no one is a household name on that team. So he'd potentially have that chance at being labeled "The Guy" for a franchise again. This is assuming that's actually still important to Dwight. Also assuming the Celtics are interested in him, which according to the last report, they don't have any meeting lined up for him yet (which was the denial of the report they were one of the first teams he'll visit with).
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1112 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:51 am

Seems my Courtney Lee and Dwight reunion idea was short lived. Apparently he's another near lock for the Knicks as Rose has been working on bringing him in as well as Noah since the trade to NY. Regardless, Lee looks like he's gonna get a starting gig somewhere which kinda brings him out of the running for Portland.

I wonder what Jameer Nelson is up to these days?

Speaking of backup PG's, color me shocked to see what Jarrett Jack's numbers were like before he got injured this summer! He was playing some really good ball. Granted, he's now coming off a torn ACL, which is terrible at his age, but.... maybe he's cheap?
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1113 » by Norm2953 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:01 am

That's a very knowledgeable fan base in Boston that has seen a lot of great teams over
the years. If they get the problem child Howard, the media might run him out of town
but in far away Portland, some of his problems might be hidden.

Players do want to play with other great players but the 31 year old Howard is not the
player he was in Orlando. Expecting him to bounce back to being a franchise player
is going to lead to disappointment but a shorter term deal with a player opt out is
likely the deal he will get.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1114 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:04 am

Norm2953 wrote:Players do want to play with other great players but the 31 year old Howard is not the
player he was in Orlando. Expecting him to bounce back to being a franchise player
is going to lead to disappointment but a shorter term deal with a player opt out is
likely the deal he will get.


Just because we realize this doesn't mean he does. Don't underestimate the delusion of some NBA players. I hope for the Blazers sake he does realize it, but you never know.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1115 » by GreenRiddler » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:25 am

Miami meeting Durant on Sunday. Whiteside plans to wrap it up on Friday hmm...
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1116 » by GreenRiddler » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:42 am

Really need to recalibrate my salary figures for players. Noah would be getting the same % of the cap at 18mil per year that he was getting this past season.

I think Crabbe would choose us at a couple of million a year less than the Kings or sixers. He said himself he'd choose a comfortable situation over some more money. Could be lying but that's what he said.

He was basically our 6th man and the reason our bench was so consistent. I think we'll bring him back and Harkless who I expect to continue starting with Aminu. Meyers is the wild card to m but if he doesn't get major offers i see him coming back too.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1117 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:52 am

GreenRiddler wrote:Miami meeting Durant on Sunday. Whiteside plans to wrap it up on Friday hmm...


And so far Whiteside's only meeting is with the Mavs.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1118 » by GreenRiddler » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:01 am

Man Whitside is such an elite finisher and PnR roll man. After watching Plumlee shoot a unfathomably low % at the rim vs GS and not be great in the PnR all year...I am psyched about the possibility of land the guy.

Dame and CJ run PnRs more than any duo in the NBA. They are already elite scorers out of the PnR with Plumlee, imagine how much better theyll look now that teams have to respect the screen setter as an elite rollman. Takes a lot of pressure off of them.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1119 » by GreenRiddler » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:04 am

DusterBuster wrote:
GreenRiddler wrote:Miami meeting Durant on Sunday. Whiteside plans to wrap it up on Friday hmm...


And so far Whiteside's only meeting is with the Mavs.

So far. I figure more will be reported as the meetings occur. Dallas seems to be in the news leaking business. I remember everyone knew they were meeting with DJ and Wes last year, while Aminu as a midnight 1st option was reported after the fact.

Some teams keep stuff close to the chest, for one reason or another Dal isn't one of them.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#1120 » by Oneluckbox » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:06 am

GreenRiddler wrote:Man Whitside is such an elite finisher and PnR roll man. After watching Plumlee shoot a unfathomably low % at the rim vs GS and not be great in the PnR all year...I am psyched about the possibility of land the guy.

Dame and CJ run PnRs more than any duo in the NBA. They are already elite scorers out of the PnR with Plumlee, imagine how much better theyll look now that teams have to respect the screen setter as an elite rollman. Takes a lot of pressure off of them.


It seems so perfect.

That's why I'm going to be DEVASTATED when he chooses another team over the Blazers :(

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