Hinkie is available, go get him Jeannie

[Kirito]

I know Mitch has done a fantastic job overall over the long hall but it does not change the fact that during the past 3 years hinkie would of been better the past 3 years. Them as a tag team i think would be unfair to the league we should do that

[Kilroy]

You can't compare Mitch and Hinkie based on lost assets... It was two completely different situations. We were a big market team willing to spend to win, with a Championship core and a Hall of Fame Leader... You don't stockpile assets in that situation, you try to keep the winning going by trading for the best prime talent available.
Mitch was exploiting the system too just in a polar opposite way and was the first to feel the wrath of the league in the form of the vetoed CP3 trade...
The lack of assets is actually a positive indication of Mitch gaming the system in his way, just like the lack of wins was a sign of Hinkie gaming the system.
At the end of the day, it's about success on the court, not in the draft... Over their careers, who's had more success?

You are telling me we could not get a 2nd round pick for Gasol Bass? Your also telling me we couldnt have used our cap space better then getting some stiff at center for 15 mil? When we signed Meta we signed him with the MLE yet let ariza walk away for nothing those are the type of assets i am talking about...

A 2nd round pick that actually saw PT with us would have been an absolute miracle... And I'm sure they tried, but what leverage did we have?
What does 'use our capspace better' actually mean? How do you quantify 'better?' The only meaningful measure would be if you knew for a fact there was a Free Agent that would have had a better career with us that what we used our capspace on... And you don't because that's a fundamentally un-proveable metric... No way to know. You gamble and win or lose depending on how things go... As long as you don't cripple the team in the long-run, then you've done a good job... And Mitch clearly hasn't crippled the team. Whereas, Hinkie's team is still most likely, destined to suck this season too, and he's unemployed.
Ariza got 33mil from the Rockets... I doubt you'd find too many Rockets fans who think he was worth that... He was over-rated and paying him 33M would have crippled us long term... And not resulted in much improvement over what Meta provided. In fact, MWP was a bargain...

[Indy2LA]

I have been very critical of Mitch but it's not really fair. He is making the best of a horrible situation with Jim and Jesse.

I will stop taking my frustrations out on him. All I want at this point is the Buss kids away from basketball operations.

[Agnostifarian]

Long time PHI fan here -- I'll never recover from Magic's Game 7 Final's performance. Personally, I loved Hinkie and The Process. I'm not sure how Bryan Colangelo will "rebalance" the roster but I am incredibly pleased with an asset base that includes Simmons, Embiid, Noel, Okafor, Saric, Grant, Covington, Luwawa, Korkmaz, LAL 2017 top 3 protected, SAC pick swaps in 2017 & 2018, SAC's unprotected 2019 pick and all of our own picks going forward. (When he came, PHI had Jrue, ET, Thad Young and an incomplete set of draft picks.) I almost forgot about the $60 MM in salary cap. Sam Hinkie made that happen. Sam died for all of PHI's sins.

PHI hired Sam because he came with a plan that was designed to address a team specific situation. He executed Phase I and never got to the Phase II of team building. The world turns.

Anyway, I hope Sam Hinkie gets another job because I suspect he's going to make a positive impact on the franchise that dares to hire him. I will follow him closely and adopt his team as my second favorite even if it is LAL (you bunch of bastards). Seriously though, Sam has a huge brain and he is ruthless. Keep an open mind.

[crazyeights]

Honestly, I don't know what people want. They demonize Jim--I'm not in love with the guy, but I think if we had a chance to create a contender, he'd have taken it, and frankly they did try: it was called Nash and Dwight. Guys bemoan not building a team around Kobe for his final run, but that literally was Mitch and Jim trying and succeeding in putting that team together.

Yes, the Phil Jackson mess was just that--a mess, but in my mind that was a confluence of a lot of factors including not quite adapting to the twitter era of PR, Dr. Buss's health, and fit. Which again can be a knock on Mitch, but who would have thought that Dwight would be so hard to convince to play the role of the roll man, something he was truly elite at. If Nash didn't get a career ending injury, things would have been completely different.

And yes, we can all say it was a risky move to trade for a player in the twilight of his career--even if he was an all-star the previous year--but that was the risk. You can't bemoan them for not putting Kobe in a position to succeed or not getting it done when they actually took that calculated risk.

And the flipside to that choice? We tanked, which was mission accomplished.

Maybe you say: no. I don't like the Randle pick. He was by far the consensus pick, and at the time he was seen as the most ready prospect--this was a time before many had stomached tanking in Lakerland. You guys don't seem to realize your own power. Our power as the mob. And guess what, we're consistently wrong.

If you don't like the D'Angelo pick, then you probably like Porzingis. I'm willing to bet 99% of those who bemoan D' now were also saying don't pick Porzingis--Euro dude's gonna be the next Darko. It seems we have a contingent who will never be happy, because they have the luxury of 20/20 vision.

You can bemoan not retaining the Bazemores, the Lins, the Ed Davises of the world, but we were tanking! After Kobe's injury it was our only option. They have taken risks, they have struck out, but they have done it all as the best moves at the time.

This summer we might strike out again, because frankly we're one year away from being a remotely known quantity for free agents. Guys want to win, and we were the 2nd worst team in the league. We have some enticing prospects (and should be excited about them), but we also just lost our coach and have yet to truly build an identity. So my hope is if we can't get some great complementary pieces around the young core, or build that young core further, then we should retain our capspace.

It's a shame Jim was prideful and gave himself a timeline publicly, but I assume he felt like it was the right thing to do at the time. The dude's not a wonderful tactician. That's no secret. We need a better face of the organization. There's no arguing that. But fans and their pitchforks rarely make an organization act in their own long-term interests--and I credit Mitch and Jim for holding this strong this long, because the reality is as of now, the health of the team long-term is very strong and has tons of potential.

[spikeslovechild]

If Hinkie set himself up to look like a bumbling fool and not announce his intent so openly, he'd still be working for the 76ers but his hubris couldn't allow him to make himself look like an idiot. His self serving resignation letter reveals as much.

With the benefit of hindsight, Kupchak has been playing the same game as Hinkie to restock his assets but he took extra care to make his seasonal sabotage look more like general incompetence than reveal his intent to game the system openly.

In short Hinkie cared a bit for his reputation, Kupchak couldn't care less. One has job, other doesn't.

He really hasn't been playing the same game. When Kupchak was off acquiring Hibbert for cap space Hinkie made the Sac deal for capspace.

Yes, Hinkie made an enemy of too many powerful people which is normally happens to people who go up against the man. The man wins. In this case the man was Silver. The thing is even if Hinkie wasn't able finish what they started the Sixers have still been enriched by the process.

All the future first round picks. Embiid. Saric. Noel. Okafor. Simmons. Covington. He kept a clean cap. There is literally not one bad contract on the roster even Landry contract isn't that bad. As a fan I'm sad he's gone but I'm still excited about the assets he left behind.

Now lets see what BC does with them.

[Slava]

If Hinkie set himself up to look like a bumbling fool and not announce his intent so openly, he'd still be working for the 76ers but his hubris couldn't allow him to make himself look like an idiot. His self serving resignation letter reveals as much.

With the benefit of hindsight, Kupchak has been playing the same game as Hinkie to restock his assets but he took extra care to make his seasonal sabotage look more like general incompetence than reveal his intent to game the system openly.

In short Hinkie cared a bit for his reputation, Kupchak couldn't care less. One has job, other doesn't.

He really hasn't been playing the same game. When Kupchak was off acquiring Hibbert for cap space Hinkie made the Sac deal for capspace.

Yes, Hinkie made an enemy of too many powerful people which is normally happens to people who go up against the man. The man wins. In this case the man was Silver. The thing is even if Hinkie wasn't able finish what they started the Sixers have still been enriched by the process.

All the future first round picks. Embiid. Saric. Noel. Okafor. Simmons. Covington. He kept a clean cap. There is literally not one bad contract on the roster even Landry contract isn't that bad. As a fan I'm sad he's gone but I'm still excited about the assets he left behind.

Now lets see what BC does with them.

You missed the point but its not worth repeating either.

[spikeslovechild]

If Hinkie set himself up to look like a bumbling fool and not announce his intent so openly, he'd still be working for the 76ers but his hubris couldn't allow him to make himself look like an idiot. His self serving resignation letter reveals as much.

With the benefit of hindsight, Kupchak has been playing the same game as Hinkie to restock his assets but he took extra care to make his seasonal sabotage look more like general incompetence than reveal his intent to game the system openly.

In short Hinkie cared a bit for his reputation, Kupchak couldn't care less. One has job, other doesn't.

He really hasn't been playing the same game. When Kupchak was off acquiring Hibbert for cap space Hinkie made the Sac deal for capspace.

Yes, Hinkie made an enemy of too many powerful people which is normally happens to people who go up against the man. The man wins. In this case the man was Silver. The thing is even if Hinkie wasn't able finish what they started the Sixers have still been enriched by the process.

All the future first round picks. Embiid. Saric. Noel. Okafor. Simmons. Covington. He kept a clean cap. There is literally not one bad contract on the roster even Landry contract isn't that bad. As a fan I'm sad he's gone but I'm still excited about the assets he left behind.

Now lets see what BC does with them.

You missed the point but its not worth repeating either.

The point is the Hibbert deal. The Mozloz deal. The Deng deal don't happen with Hinkie. He views cap space as an asset to get more assets not to bring in washed up vets.

Agents hated him for that reason. He lost their clients a ton of money by sitting on cap space and making deals for space eaters and mid season deals where their contract was basically counted twice. The only thing really the Lakers and Sixers had in common for the last two seasons is they both sucked.

Brian Windhorst mentioned it earlier this being rock bottom for the lakers. I tend to agree. The only way to rebuild your brand when that happens is to bring in young talent and become an attractive destination for free agents who want to win. Hinkie tried to do that in Philly and accelerate the process by acquiring other team young players and picks.

When Kupchak is fired next year they would do well to take a look at Hinkie. He has experience coming in and cleaning up messes left behind from bad Gm's.

[Slava]

He really hasn't been playing the same game. When Kupchak was off acquiring Hibbert for cap space Hinkie made the Sac deal for capspace.

Yes, Hinkie made an enemy of too many powerful people which is normally happens to people who go up against the man. The man wins. In this case the man was Silver. The thing is even if Hinkie wasn't able finish what they started the Sixers have still been enriched by the process.

All the future first round picks. Embiid. Saric. Noel. Okafor. Simmons. Covington. He kept a clean cap. There is literally not one bad contract on the roster even Landry contract isn't that bad. As a fan I'm sad he's gone but I'm still excited about the assets he left behind.

Now lets see what BC does with them.

You missed the point but its not worth repeating either.

The point is the Hibbert deal. The Mozloz deal. The Deng deal don't happen with Hinkie. He views cap space as an asset to get more assets not to bring in washed up vets.

Agents hated him for that reason. He lost their clients a ton of money by sitting on cap space and making deals for space eaters and mid season deals where their contract was basically counted twice. The only thing really the Lakers and Sixers had in common for the last two seasons is they both sucked.

Brian Windhorst mentioned it earlier this being rock bottom for the lakers. I tend to agree. The only way to rebuild your brand when that happens is to bring in young talent and become an attractive destination for free agents who want to win. Hinkie tried to do that in Philly and accelerate the process by acquiring other team young players and picks.

When Kupchak is fired next year they would do well to take a look at Hinkie. He has experience coming in and cleaning up messes left behind from bad Gm's.

Between kupchak and Hinkie one GM has a job and the other doesn't. I'll let you figure out the rest. For now take your wisdom elsewhere.

[DrCoach]

Hinkie would have killed with this roster

[rzzzzz]

Hinkie left so many assets that are suddenly pouring onto the roster that Bryan is actually constrained from hellbend spending their enormous cap, like all the other drunken sailors. (i'm fond of Evan Turner, but are you kidding? and yet his deal doesn't even come close to being the most profligate.)

[76ciology]

I think Hinkie would have done most of what Mitch did, but he'd probably be aggressive in trading Randle and Clarkson for future 1sts rather than hoping both guys turn out to be special players like what GSW did with their guys. But then I'm pretty sure everyone would go crazy and say how Hinkie treats guys like an asset by giving up on them easily.

I'm a big fan of Hinkie and wanted a similar GM like him for almost a decade for our team. And the entire goal of Hinkie is to have the most chance to get a star, and he doesn't care about team fit or high risks players. It's called risk diversification. It's just Hinkie is semi-lucky (depends on how you view on it) that Noel and Biid were passed up due to their medical history.

If there's anything I'd consider LAL were lucky with, it's they were able to draft both BPA, team needs and guys who fit the modern NBA. Which IMO, has good similarity with how GSW build their team. It's just that LAL better hope Ingram and Dlo becomes special players like Curry and Klay or else you then would need to shift into another direction, which I'd guess would fall into the Ainge way of packaging assets for stars or building a star friendly environment for a big time FA to sign with.