Stanley Johnson changing his number, but not RJ

flow · Post #1 » by **flow** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:04 pm

On the heel of Big Ben's number being retired, SJ has announced that he'll switch from #3 to #7 this season out of respect. RJ has no plans to do the same with Billups' #1.

Not surprised.

DetroitSho · Post #2 » by **DetroitSho** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:18 pm

flow wrote:On the heel of Big Ben's number being retired, SJ has announced that he'll switch from #3 to #7 this season out of respect. RJ has no plans to do the same with Billups' #1.

Not surprised.

Reggie is to you as KCP is to Todd. I don't understand how you guys fixate on a player on the team you root for and point out every little thing that can be presumed as a negative about them.

flow · Post #3 » by **flow** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:19 pm

DetroitSho wrote:
flow wrote:On the heel of Big Ben's number being retired, SJ has announced that he'll switch from #3 to #7 this season out of respect. RJ has no plans to do the same with Billups' #1.

Not surprised.

Reggie is to you as KCP is to Todd. I don't understand how you guys fixate on a player on the team you root for and point out every little thing that can be presumed as a negative about them.

While it's true I'm not a big fan of Reggie's, I'd have posted similar disappointment with SJ, or any other player in that situation, if they had not switched. It's disrespectful to the player and to the organization (that pays you) that deemed the number worthy of retirement. Of course Billups is going to say he's ok with him wearing it. Just like Ben did. But how egocentric do you have to be to decide, or even want, to keep wearing it anyway? It's embarrassing. I mean, he didn't even wear the #1 in high school, college, or at OKC!

DetroitSho · Post #4 » by **DetroitSho** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:45 pm

I have a bigger problem with the organization for even issuing the numbers. That was stupid in the first place. Nothing to say about them?

Liqourish · Post #5 » by **Liqourish** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:47 pm

I think it's stupid that we decided to retire their numbers so early. I don't fault Stanley, Drummond or Jackson for having the numbers.

Post #6 » by **roc** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:15 pm

Liqourish wrote:I think it's stupid that we decided to retire their numbers so early. I don't fault Stanley, Drummond or Jackson for having the numbers.

If Drummond gets a mention may as well add in Stuckey and AI as well.

detroitKG · Post #7 » by **detroitKG** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:18 pm

Liqourish wrote:I think it's stupid that we decided to retire their numbers so early. I don't fault Stanley, Drummond or Jackson for having the numbers.

Pretty much my thoughts as well..but then again the number retirements are lost on me..

Liqourish · Post #8 » by **Liqourish** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:21 pm

detroitKG wrote:
Liqourish wrote:I think it's stupid that we decided to retire their numbers so early. I don't fault Stanley, Drummond or Jackson for having the numbers.

Pretty much my thoughts as well..but then again the number retirements are lost on me..

I respect number retirements, and I agree that they both are deserving, but it was too soon. And I don't fault the players who came in after them who got their numbers.

The_Irony · Post #9 » by **The_Irony** » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:54 pm

I think you can honor the players legacy without having another player not be allowed to wear a number.

MrBigShot · Post #10 » by **MrBigShot** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 12:16 am

I'm of the opinion that numbers for players who are more or less surefire to have their numbers retired should be off-limits, so I don't think we should have given out #1 & #3 in the first place.

I don't know how Chauncey feels about Reggie wearing #1 but I think he should switch. Imagine how weird it would be if someone took Isiah's number? Doubt people would be too happy about that.

DetroitPistons · Post #11 » by **DetroitPistons** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 12:19 am

I think the whole retired numbers thing should just be abolished. Instead just lift the jersey with the players name and number into the rafters but still make the numbers available to whoever.

DetroitSho · Post #12 » by **DetroitSho** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 12:20 am

MrBigShot wrote:I'm of the opinion that numbers for players who are more or less surefire to have their numbers retired should be off-limits, so I don't think we should have given out #1 & #3 in the first place.

I don't know how Chauncey feels about Reggie wearing #1 but I think he should switch. Imagine how weird it would be if someone took Isiah's number? Doubt people would be too happy about that.

That's not even remotely close to the same thing. C'mon bro.

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MrBigShot · Post #13 » by **MrBigShot** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 12:28 am

DetroitSho wrote:
MrBigShot wrote:I'm of the opinion that numbers for players who are more or less surefire to have their numbers retired should be off-limits, so I don't think we should have given out #1 & #3 in the first place.

I don't know how Chauncey feels about Reggie wearing #1 but I think he should switch. Imagine how weird it would be if someone took Isiah's number? Doubt people would be too happy about that.

That's not even remotely close to the same thing. C'mon bro.

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Why is it different? They are both great piston PGs who led championship teams and had their numbers retired. Is it different because Isiah is the greatest piston ever? Because even so it's not like Chauncey was a slouch, he was a terrific player.

The difference is that Reggie got #1 before it was retired, which isn't his fault and I didn't blame him for it. But I still think he should switch. In part because it's Chauncey's number, and in part because if he aspires to be a great player and have his own number retired, which I would think he does, he should have his own unique number.

DetroitSho · Post #14 » by **DetroitSho** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:53 am

MrBigShot wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
MrBigShot wrote:I'm of the opinion that numbers for players who are more or less surefire to have their numbers retired should be off-limits, so I don't think we should have given out #1 & #3 in the first place.

I don't know how Chauncey feels about Reggie wearing #1 but I think he should switch. Imagine how weird it would be if someone took Isiah's number? Doubt people would be too happy about that.

That's not even remotely close to the same thing. C'mon bro.

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Why is it different? They are both great piston PGs who led championship teams and had their numbers retired. Is it different because Isiah is the greatest piston ever? Because even so it's not like Chauncey was a slouch, he was a terrific player.

The difference is that Reggie got #1 before it was retired, which isn't his fault and I didn't blame him for it. But I still think he should switch. In part because it's Chauncey's number, and in part because if he aspires to be a great player and have his own number retired, which I would think he does, he should have his own unique number.

I guess you already knew the difference before you said it.

flow · Post #15 » by **flow** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 2:59 am

DetroitSho wrote:I have a bigger problem with the organization for even issuing the numbers. That was stupid in the first place. Nothing to say about them?

I agree with you. It was foolish to issue 1 and 3 in the first place. Obviously the players requested those numbers, but the team could have and probably should have said no. Now that the numbers are retired, though, they should switch.