2016 Offseason Thread -- Not (just) #KD2DC

[Ruzious]

Again, for the third time, he played power forward last season.

http://www.blazersedge.com/2016/4/1/11343974/portland-trail-blazers-maurice-harkless-starting-power-forward-analysis

Aminu is considerably longer and better equipped to play PF than Harkless. Despite what that article says, I doubt Harkless was the PF when Harkless played with Aminu.

[pcbothwel]

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He would be a great pick up. Give him 2/4M with TO and I think he'd be a legit stretch 4

That's why we need to aggressively get in some of the salary dump trades

I thought about this earlier. It looks like KD is staying, so the Bogut trade might be out.
I cant stand Kanter and I trust RPM with him. Stay away
Tobais Harris looks like a great pick up now.
Dragic would be an interesting backup at the 1/2, but I'd only take him on a dump, no assets.
Knight is cheaper than dragic, but I hate his game and trust RPM with him as well
Chandler could be an interesting backup 5
Henson would be a great pick up, but doubt the Bucks dump him

[Dark Faze]

harkless is a default all around starting PF from nba 2k

generic in every way

[nate33]

Letting Beal walk >>> signing him to a max deal. The Wizards were mediocre with him, mediocre without him.

This.

It's honestly tough to prove that the team was better with Beal starting than they were with Garrett Temple.

[Severn Hoos]

Harkless is like Oubre with a little less wingspan. He could be good, but we already have Oubre. Pass.

Every time I read about Moe, this goes through my head:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLmSRt1MMrw[/youtube]

[Dat2U]

Again, for the third time, he played power forward last season.

http://www.blazersedge.com/2016/4/1/11343974/portland-trail-blazers-maurice-harkless-starting-power-forward-analysis

Aminu is considerably longer and better equipped to play PF than Harkless. Despite what that article says, I doubt Harkless was the PF when Harkless played with Aminu.

I remember the Blazers beat writer (I forget his name) said Aminu started the last 15 games + playoffs at PF for the Blazers and was best suited there.

Harkless may get minutes at PF but he was their starting SF towards the end of last season.

[deneem4]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/748903350943571968[/tweet]

He would be a great pick up. Give him 2/4M with TO and I think he'd be a legit stretch 4

That's why we need to aggressively get in some of the salary dump trades

I thought about this earlier. It looks like KD is staying, so the Bogut trade might be out.
I cant stand Kanter and I trust RPM with him. Stay away
Tobais Harris looks like a great pick up now.
Dragic would be an interesting backup at the 1/2, but I'd only take him on a dump, no assets.
Knight is cheaper than dragic, but I hate his game and trust RPM with him as well
Chandler could be an interesting backup 5
Henson would be a great pick up, but doubt the Bucks dump him

IL be a happy camper we can get
Kanter
Davis
Vonleh...

[80sballboy]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/748903350943571968[/tweet]

He would be a great pick up. Give him 2/4M with TO and I think he'd be a legit stretch 4

That's why we need to aggressively get in some of the salary dump trades

I thought about this earlier. It looks like KD is staying, so the Bogut trade might be out.
I cant stand Kanter and I trust RPM with him. Stay away
Tobais Harris looks like a great pick up now.
Dragic would be an interesting backup at the 1/2, but I'd only take him on a dump, no assets.
Knight is cheaper than dragic, but I hate his game and trust RPM with him as well
Chandler could be an interesting backup 5
Henson would be a great pick up, but doubt the Bucks dump him

Dude looks like Birdman's younger brother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkf6IFuntI

[deneem4]

I wonder if Charlotte still looking to get rid of hawes and lamb...
Lamb and oubre would give us some athletic wings off the bench while Hawes will be a good stretch 5 for the price...

[nate33]

He is declining really fast. His season wasn't really any better than the one Gortat had except that he got a few more rebounds and shot better from the field. Gortat actually managed to get slightly more win shares and have a better ORtg and PER than him too: http://bkref.com/tiny/K2ssY

He's also only a year younger than Gortat, and has played a ton more minutes. Plus you've got the back issues which won't go away, the cancerous locker room presence, the crappy FT shooting, the lack of skill necessary to evolve into a player that can remain effective as his athleticism disappears, the huge contract. Too many big warning flags with Dwight.

Signing him and thinking that you're getting the player he was even in 2013 is wishful thinking IMO. All that buzz would turn into negativity real quick when we see the state he's in now, and how much we overspent to get him.

Honestly, I'd bring Dwight in just for name alone at this point. I have valid arguments for why I disagree with your points from a basketball perspective, but jesus christ this team needs SOME kind of buzz--John needs it, the city needs it. Better to go out with a bang of an acquisition than to just slowly rot away with Gortat and friends imo. This team dropped what...30% of its viewership last year? Just from a buzz and business perspective more than even basketball the team could really use Dwight.

Bringing in guys for the sake of "buzz" is exactly the opposite of what good GM's do. "Buzz" gets you the New York Knicks or the Brooklyn Nets. Going after boring, competent players is what teams like San Antonio and Boston do.

[80sballboy]

Again, for the third time, he played power forward last season.

http://www.blazersedge.com/2016/4/1/11343974/portland-trail-blazers-maurice-harkless-starting-power-forward-analysis

Aminu is considerably longer and better equipped to play PF than Harkless. Despite what that article says, I doubt Harkless was the PF when Harkless played with Aminu.

I remember the Blazers beat writer (I forget his name) said Aminu started the last 15 games + playoffs at PF for the Blazers and was best suited there.

Harkless may get minutes at PF but he was their starting SF towards the end of last season.

Bottom line is that he will try to get starter's money and he'll play about 20mpg here. The more I read, the more I say pass unless you get him at a decent value.
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2016/05/trail_blazers_you_be_the_gm_2016_moe_harkless.html

[nate33]

God, I hate Ernie Grunfeld. I can't believe he paid Beal the max on the first day of free agency.

[Dark Faze]

Honestly, I'd bring Dwight in just for name alone at this point. I have valid arguments for why I disagree with your points from a basketball perspective, but jesus christ this team needs SOME kind of buzz--John needs it, the city needs it. Better to go out with a bang of an acquisition than to just slowly rot away with Gortat and friends imo. This team dropped what...30% of its viewership last year? Just from a buzz and business perspective more than even basketball the team could really use Dwight.
Bringing in guys for the sake of "buzz" is exactly the opposite of what good GM's do. "Buzz" gets you the New York Knicks or the Brooklyn Nets. Going after boring, competent players is what teams like San Antonio and Boston do.

Oh you mean the San Antonio Spurs and their top 10 of all time player or the Celtics who were trash until they bulled off a blockbuster trade for boring players like Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen? The post Pierce Celtics really are not a tale of anything except how to draft bad but play the free agency game well.

Verizon center will go from lethargic to restless this season. It's going to be a terrible place to play in if the Wizards don't grasp early momentum and run with it.

[Dark Faze]

and the fact that we still haven't heard anything about the wiz looking into backup C's for the second year in a row when we clearly needed one is hilarious as well--yet he's got his eyes set on the small forward position despite us having two pretty good prospects at the position already

organization is clown shoes

[Dat2U]

Honestly, I'd bring Dwight in just for name alone at this point. I have valid arguments for why I disagree with your points from a basketball perspective, but jesus christ this team needs SOME kind of buzz--John needs it, the city needs it. Better to go out with a bang of an acquisition than to just slowly rot away with Gortat and friends imo. This team dropped what...30% of its viewership last year? Just from a buzz and business perspective more than even basketball the team could really use Dwight.
Bringing in guys for the sake of "buzz" is exactly the opposite of what good GM's do. "Buzz" gets you the New York Knicks or the Brooklyn Nets. Going after boring, competent players is what teams like San Antonio and Boston do.

Oh you mean the San Antonio Spurs and their top 10 of all time player or the Celtics who were trash until they bulled off a blockbuster trade for boring players like Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen? The post Pierce Celtics really are not a tale of anything except how to draft bad but play the free agency game well.

Verizon center will go from lethargic to restless this season. It's going to be a terrible place to play in if the Wizards don't grasp early momentum and run with it.

Your arguments for bringing in an over-the-hill declining player are damn near laughable.

The only thing that helps is wins and the 2016 version of Dwight isn't leading this team to anymore wins than Gortat can.

[nate33]

Honestly, I'd bring Dwight in just for name alone at this point. I have valid arguments for why I disagree with your points from a basketball perspective, but jesus christ this team needs SOME kind of buzz--John needs it, the city needs it. Better to go out with a bang of an acquisition than to just slowly rot away with Gortat and friends imo. This team dropped what...30% of its viewership last year? Just from a buzz and business perspective more than even basketball the team could really use Dwight.
Bringing in guys for the sake of "buzz" is exactly the opposite of what good GM's do. "Buzz" gets you the New York Knicks or the Brooklyn Nets. Going after boring, competent players is what teams like San Antonio and Boston do.

Oh you mean the San Antonio Spurs and their top 10 of all time player or the Celtics who were trash until they bulled off a blockbuster trade for boring players like Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen? The post Pierce Celtics really are not a tale of anything except how to draft bad but play the free agency game well.

Verizon center will go from lethargic to restless this season. It's going to be a terrible place to play in if the Wizards don't grasp early momentum and run with it.

Please. San Antonio's success over the past several years have very little to do with Tim Duncan, Manu or Parker. It's because they find guys like Danny Green, Boris Diaw and David West on great contracts, and of course they drafted Kawhi Leonard.

And the post Pierce Celtics just won 48 games despite having just one lotto pick since 2007 (Marcus Smart at #6). The Wizards had 4 top 3 picks in the same time frame and peaked at 46 wins. And if it wasn't for their good fortune of landing Wall as the #1 overall pick, they would have never even made the playoffs.

Never go after "big names" who have clearly declined in production. It's a fool's gambit. You always overpay.

[deneem4]

I'll take Howard just to have a big man who wants to dunk

[Dark Faze]

If you can't draft then you're ALWAYS going to have to overpay to bring quality talent to a place with a reputation like DC.

Look, looks as though some people disagree with me on Howard--I think he's better than Gortat, others don't, that's fine, but Indy just retooled in a massive way, Bosh looks set to return to the Heat, the Hornets kept Batum and add a (knock on wood) healthy MKG next year--minor adjustments are not going to get it done for us

[nate33]

If you can't draft then you're ALWAYS going to have to overpay to bring quality talent to a place with a reputation like DC.

Look, looks as though some people disagree with me on Howard--I think he's better than Gortat, others don't, that's fine, but Indy just retooled in a massive way, Bosh looks set to return to the Heat, the Hornets kept Batum and add a (knock on wood) healthy MKG next year--minor adjustments are not going to get it done for us

But neither is paying $10M a year more for Howard than what you're paying Gortat. There's little reason to believe Howard is even an upgrade over Gortat, and he's certainly a downgrade when it comes to durability and team leadership. You can't do something just for the sake of doing something.

You don't buy stock at the top of a bull market just because you have some cash available. Sometimes, the best move is to hoard cash for a while.

[The Consiglieri]

Dear heavens. Beal at 25 million a year.

Someone save this franchise from itself.

Honestly, what's the alternative?


This is the "new NBA".

Keeping the cap space, admitting you completely bungled the rebuild, and not making horrible contracts for injury prone players (hello: Arenas, hello!?!?!?). We've already seen how detrimental bad contracts can be. Bad contracts are worse than losing above average (when healthy) players. I'd rather take the pill, suck big time, have the league saddled with incredibly idiotic contracts, and try to rebuild properly.

Instead we give a non-max, incredibly injury prone player a horrible max contract, and cross our fingers praying he can stay healthy just in time to give a third tier player an obscene contract.

I can't believe the moron responsible for piloting this goodship lolipop into an iceburg is being allowed to handle how the emergency procedures are executed.