The 2016 Offseason Thread (Post Draft)

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Interested to hear what Gambo says but I have to guess we are in on Barnes, Bazemore, possibly Anderson? You dont let Mirza walk at only $10 a year unless your assets are being promised somewhere else.

I bet it's Jared Sullinger. Underrated two-way player. And, critically, nobody's mentioned him. That's basically McD's bat signal.

RFA, so we might be trying to work something out with the Celtics.

[sunsbum]

Ugh, amare....that guy is a scrub. Bucks got a good deal on mirza, im assuming he gave the suns a chance to match and they passed.

[SunsFanSSOL]

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Rudy for 2 years at 12m/yr?

[Jarlaxle0204]

I wish the Suns had signed Mirza to that deal and called it a day. I'm worried with what we're going to do now.

[saintEscaton]

Interested to hear what Gambo says but I have to guess we are in on Barnes, Bazemore, possibly Anderson? You dont let Mirza walk at only $10 a year unless your assets are being promised somewhere else.

I bet it's Jared Sullinger. Underrated two-way player. And, critically, nobody's mentioned him. That's basically McD's bat signal.

RFA, so we might be trying to work something out with the Celtics.

I've been beating that drum for sometime. But if he's not getting in shape for his contract year, dunno what will motivate him

[RaisingArizona]

If the Warriors get KD.... I think we end up with Barnes.

[jredsaz]

Interested to hear what Gambo says but I have to guess we are in on Barnes, Bazemore, possibly Anderson? You dont let Mirza walk at only $10 a year unless your assets are being promised somewhere else.

I bet it's Jared Sullinger. Underrated two-way player. And, critically, nobody's mentioned him. That's basically McD's bat signal.

RFA, so we might be trying to work something out with the Celtics.

I've been beating that drum for sometime. But if he's not getting in shape for his contract year, dunno what will motivate him

Yeah. Bad back, poor work ethic, and lack of diet discipline. That kinda concerns me. Also his game doesn't really fit with what the Suns/Watson seem to want to do.

[JMac1]

Yeah, I don't think he will trade him either. At the VERY earliest, it would be near the deadline. I think they can possibly be an effective three guard rotation. Bledsoe HAS to stay healthy though. If he goes down, we are in serious trouble because I just don't think Knight is an effective PG. He's an avg SG, good when he gets hot, but turns it over a lot under pressure, gets tunnel vision, loses court awareness, and overdribbles, but other that that he isn't bad, except defensively.

Knight, Bledsoe, and Booker starts until Bender can play the SF, then Knight goes to the bench. Not even worried about it. The guy that is being promoted as your future franchise guy will not be coming off of the bench to start the season, no way. Those guys are our top three players. They will start and see how it goes, then Mc'D and Watson will adjust.

All three are going to start? Did not know that. I need to keep up on such things!

I thought I made prediction quite clear on this thread.....gotta work on those reading skills there sir.

[JMac1]

I thought we'd get a first for Kieff on that killer deal.

PFs have much more value than short combo guards. Especially when they make a little more than half as much. We may end up being better served to keep him if he can figure out how to contribute to team ball. Picks are WAY more valuable now than they were a year ago, now that people see how much more value rookie contracts hold, and will especially hold next year. We MIGHT be able to get a late first for him at some point. Sacramento might want him but has nothing worthwhile to offer unless you want McLemore (which I'd consider).

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Knight isn't being traded. Mc'D will ride that horse into the ground. Knight is not a bad player, just selfish. If he grows up a little, I'd be more inclined to keep him. Bledsoe, Booker, Knight, and Len are the best players on our team as of now. I can't wait to see Bledsoe, Knight, and Booker starting at the 1-3 on opening Knight

Barring injury, I'd bet you a cold beer Book is our 6th man, to start the season.


If you put aside what Knight cost, and how he got here.... and believe he can stop the annoying over dribble chuck-osity... and buy into whatever the Mentalist Watson has in store for this squad, and actually play a little D and keep himself off the Shaq-in a fool list...then hey... he's not a bad pg/sg to have on the roster. I'm not sure many here had an idea as to what salaries were going to look like in the new NBA, but for what he is and what he cost, we could do much worse. Giddeeup

Rape and romance ??? wow... thats a dandy

That's a bet.

Rape and romance; Yea. When the dude is good looking, he is checking her out, when he is ugly, he is stalking. You are welcome for that free education, Bernie should be proud.

[bwgood77]

Knight, Bledsoe, and Booker starts until Bender can play the SF, then Knight goes to the bench. Not even worried about it. The guy that is being promoted as your future franchise guy will not be coming off of the bench to start the season, no way. Those guys are our top three players. They will start and see how it goes, then Mc'D and Watson will adjust.

All three are going to start? Did not know that. I need to keep up on such things!

I thought I made prediction quite clear on this thread.....gotta work on those reading skills there sir.

I just hadn't read or heard that. You didn't state it as a prediction, more like a fact. So I guess that's just in your fantasizing mind. Maybe they will, and that's why they leaked (fibbed, whatever) that he grew an inch, not to draft Hield, but to give some sort of legit reason to start him at the 3. I'd bring him off the bench to start the year. Too many guys who need shots with all those guys in there at the same time. Tucker needs to be in there for D if Knight starts (or if Booker is the starting 2 for that matter).

[King4Day]

Lord please don't waste money on Sullinger.
Just cheap PF's and call it.

[bwgood77]

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This can only mean that we've been targeting someone else.

Good for the Bucks.

Glad he's not coming back. All he did was shoot 3s, and we need guys that do more. I still hope Leuer due to age, cost and versatility. West ok as a mentor, but I don't think he will come.

[bwgood77]

McD said he just wants one FA - a vet PF who could start for a year or 2, and then be okay with a bench role a few years down the road. So, that's why we probably haven't heard much, because he isn't doing much.

Leuer perfect for that. When he started the first 10 games or so, he was solid. He doesn't need a lot of shots, can set screens, play D, make the right pass, hit a 3 when open, etc. Underrated.

[bwgood77]

It is amazing that it is over 15 hours into free agency and nothing has been mentioned about the Suns. Just one Stein tweet from last night that listed the Suns among some teams interested in Dudley. I know McDonough operates under the radar but this is secrecy to a whole other level. There has been been multiple reports on virtually every team except the Suns. Even the local beat writers have not reported anything. Pretty crazy how tight they keep information within the organization these days.

Not to mention that Dudley makes zero sense with Tucker coming back. They fill the same role essentially. An undersized PF that can hit the corner 3 and provide some defense at times but no longer at an elite level. Dudley is looking for way more than the $5M that Tucker makes though.

Yeah, Dudley will probably get a deal at least similar to Mirza's.

[bwgood77]

14M/yr contract for a 20/5/4 24 year old guard... hmmm..

The only thing I hate about people throwing out the 20/5/4 is that I don't like 20 points coming at the cost of a 41.5 fg% and the 5 assists coming at the cost of 3.4 turnovers.

that's fine, so long as we do the same thing when we refer to Wade as a 20/5/5 player last season, or refer to the raw ppg stats of Oladipo or John Wall or reggie jackson or goran dragic or MCW or any number of scoring guards whose TS% was the same as Knight's.

and furthermore i agree that a 1.5 AST/TO ratio is not good enough. if you take out Knight's stats and look at our ballhandling guards (bledsoe booker price and goodwin) our team's AST/TO ratio last season was... 1.5. 1.5 AST/TO. not sure why a nicked up Knight-- playing primarily off ball for the first time in his career-- is taking all the heat for his career worst AST/TO ratio...

My point is more that 20/5/4 doesn't mean anything to me. I would prefer 12/4/2 if the guy shot 55%, and had a 4 to 1 A/TO ratio. I know what Knight is, and I like him playing with Bledsoe fair enough. The main thing I didn't like from him the first 20 games or so was being the guy to handle the ball in crucial moments at the end of games. That should NEVER be his role.

[bwgood77]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 2m2 minutes ago
Free agent Chandler Parsons is nearing agreement on a four-year, $94M max deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, league sources tell @TheVertical.

Well I said I liked him more than Barnes, and he's actually going to get paid more a year than Barnes, even if Barnes gets the 5 year max.

[bwgood77]

Evan Turner getting 70mil over 4 years with Portland
Evan Fornier getting 85mil over 5 years with Orlando

I feel like we're dodging some serious bullets here.
Gives me the feeling we're going to sign one of the following to a 2 year expensive deal (maybe 10-14 mil per)

Dudley
Amar'e
Lee
West

That Turner deal is the most ridiculous deal so far. Worse than Mozgov. Worse than Beal. I think those are the worst three so far, though I'm probably missing something. I'm not sure what Noah's health is like, so that one's hard to judge.

Fournier though is underrated. That's a lot, but he's better than Knight for example, and he's getting $17 million a year. 40% from 3, 50% from 2. Solid SG.

[NTB]

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[Qwigglez]

Get me some DWill. Only 25, I think we might be able to give him a 3 year contract worth 36mil.

[bwgood77]

Good the leftover bigs are rotation players at best, none will make a difference. Gotta stay the course and not jump the gun. Hopefully we don't sniff the playoffs, a Three Headed Hydra redux will ensure that

Same way I'm playing the mock offseason. Philly style...top 3 pick baby. All I got is Leuer. Well and cashed in Tucker and Chandler. Probably be like $20 million under the floor though.