The (Where Ainges Fear to) Trade Thread, 2016-17 (1.0)

threrf23 · Post #101 » by **threrf23** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:27 am

dei1c3 wrote:How many other examples of guys with 2 knee injuries in high school who later went on to the NBA are there? I'm curious how their careers went.

Kevin Love had "a few" knee surgeries in high school, per his nbadraft.net capsule.

sam_I_am · Post #102 » by **sam_I_am** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 4:42 pm

gocelts wrote:If there were a way to get Butler...why wouldn't we have already traded for him? Actually, if there were a way to get anyone decent...why haven't we moved on it yet?

I have this bad feeling we are going to be playing 3rd team in a 2 player trade (neither going to Boston) this off-season...we'll see...

I think it will take 2017 Nets pick, Crowder, Bradley. Cs don't want to trade that for butler unless they hav Durant on board.

Horford, Durant, Butler, Smart, IT is a pretty interesting starting 5. I'd rather keep Crowder but I don't know how to make the trade work with cap.

Disinformation · Post #103 » by **Disinformation** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 4:49 pm

threrf23 wrote:
dei1c3 wrote:How many other examples of guys with 2 knee injuries in high school who later went on to the NBA are there? I'm curious how their careers went.

Kevin Love had "a few" knee surgeries in high school, per his nbadraft.net capsule.

Good example. Thanks. I've seen him at the top of most 2017 mocks for a while in spite of those surgeries and I was wondering if that made sense. Given the state of modern medicine and his talent, it looks like it won't.

galipeautim · Post #104 » by **galipeautim** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 5:55 pm

dei1c3 wrote:
threrf23 wrote:
dei1c3 wrote:How many other examples of guys with 2 knee injuries in high school who later went on to the NBA are there? I'm curious how their careers went.

Kevin Love had "a few" knee surgeries in high school, per his nbadraft.net capsule.

Good example. Thanks. I've seen him at the top of most 2017 mocks for a while in spite of those surgeries and I was wondering if that made sense. Given the state of modern medicine and his talent, it looks like it won't.

DaJuan Blair was discovered to have no ACLs due to high school surgeries/deterioration.

ConstableGeneva · Post #105 » by **ConstableGeneva** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 7:43 pm

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FYI: There is a growing sense around the league the Kings are more than willing to trade Rudy Gay.

Curmudgeon · Post #106 » by **Curmudgeon** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 7:56 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:Jason JonesVerified account
‏@mr_jasonjones

FYI: There is a growing sense around the league the Kings are more than willing to trade Rudy Gay.

So what else is new LOL?

Murta · Post #107 » by **Murta** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:04 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:Jason JonesVerified account
‏@mr_jasonjones

FYI: There is a growing sense around the league the Kings are more than willing to trade Rudy Gay.

There is a growing sense I would not be opposed to having sex with Scarlett Johansson.

Post #108 » by **Froob** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:06 pm

Murta wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:Jason JonesVerified account
‏@mr_jasonjones

FYI: There is a growing sense around the league the Kings are more than willing to trade Rudy Gay.

There is a growing sense I would not be opposed to having sex with Scarlett Johansson.

A. Sherrod Blakely is reporting that Murta is working the phones hard to try to strike a deal with Ms.Johansson.

Curmudgeon · Post #109 » by **Curmudgeon** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:27 pm

Froob wrote:
Murta wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:Jason JonesVerified account
‏@mr_jasonjones

FYI: There is a growing sense around the league the Kings are more than willing to trade Rudy Gay.

There is a growing sense I would not be opposed to having sex with Scarlett Johansson.

A. Sherrod Blakely is reporting that Murta is working the phones hard to try to strike a deal with Ms.Johansson.

She has the sexiest voice ever. I can't wait to see the Jungle Book, in which she voices Kaa.

sam_I_am · Post #110 » by **sam_I_am** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:07 pm

Can we still trade Amir and JJ to a team that cuts them for cap relief? Can we still trade for Butler without trade kicker? Is July 7 the new deadline?

Celts17Pride · Post #111 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 11:30 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Can we still trade Amir and JJ to a team that cuts them for cap relief? Can we still trade for Butler without trade kicker? Is July 7 the new deadline?

Yes.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #112 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 1:12 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:Can we still trade Amir and JJ to a team that cuts them for cap relief? Can we still trade for Butler without trade kicker? Is July 7 the new deadline?

Yes.

Wonder if Greg Monroe is a backup plan for us.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #113 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 1:22 am

How would Monroe/Horford work? Great passing, not great shooting. Monroe needs to be locked in a gym with a shooting coach. Would Horford's defensive IQ make up for Monroe's limitations?

Banks2Pierce · Post #114 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 12:11 pm

sam_I_am wrote:Can we still trade Amir and JJ to a team that cuts them for cap relief? Can we still trade for Butler without trade kicker? Is July 7 the new deadline?

I think trading them to a team that wants to waive them is off the table now because you can't actually trade during the moratorium. I think anyone would be fine with just acquiring them now, though. They'd probably be cool with amending their dates again to be able to get in on this FA $, however.

What could be interesting is a Millsap<>Horford trade dance as it relates to us. If Atlanta has a firm offer to trade Millsap for picks/youth elsewhere to clear room for Horford, I'd want to try to beat that. But then, what if they are playing us and don't actually have an offer? It's a weird one. Can they clear Horford room without moving him? Doesn't seem possible based on the reporting last night.

Post #115 » by **Slartibartfast** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 2:32 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:Can we still trade Amir and JJ to a team that cuts them for cap relief? Can we still trade for Butler without trade kicker? Is July 7 the new deadline?

I think trading them to a team that wants to waive them is off the table now because you can't actually trade during the moratorium. I think anyone would be fine with just acquiring them now, though. They'd probably be cool with amending their dates again to be able to get in on this FA $, however.

What could be interesting is a Millsap<>Horford trade dance as it relates to us. If Atlanta has a firm offer to trade Millsap for picks/youth elsewhere to clear room for Horford, I'd want to try to beat that. But then, what if they are playing us and don't actually have an offer? It's a weird one. Can they clear Horford room without moving him? Doesn't seem possible based on the reporting last night.

Apparently they only have to clear 11 mil to fit Horford's cap hold with Bazemore and Howard.

So Splitter + one of Scott, Thabo or Korver would do the trick.

It's also a bit weird to max Horford when he's probably a 6th man if you are keeping Sap. Seems almost like signing him so you can trade him later.

Banks2Pierce · Post #116 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 2:41 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:So Splitter + one of Scott, Thabo or Korver would do the trick.

So someone would essentially have to want to pay 13.5m for one year of Korver, I guess? I could see it being easier later in the summer after teams strike out and lose nothing by hitting jumping to the salary floor for 1 year guys, but I'm not sure in a time sensitive situation like this.

Post #117 » by **Slartibartfast** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 3:15 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:So Splitter + one of Scott, Thabo or Korver would do the trick.

So someone would essentially have to want to pay 13.5m for one year of Korver, I guess? I could see it being easier later in the summer after teams strike out and lose nothing by hitting jumping to the salary floor for 1 year guys, but I'm not sure in a time sensitive situation like this.

Splitter's not toast is he? Projected to be ready for the season. 31 year old 7 footer with championship experience on a one year $8 mil deal. Don't see him being much harder to move than Jerebko.

jmr07019 · Post #118 » by **jmr07019** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 3:25 pm

Crowder and two of Young, Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Yabs, Zizic, Clips 1st for Millsap would be my max offer. Can't give more given the uncertainty of his FA next year when contracts will be even bigger.

Banks2Pierce · Post #119 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 3:32 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:Splitter's not toast is he? Projected to be ready for the season. 31 year old 7 footer with championship experience on a one year $8 mil deal. Don't see him being much harder to move than Jerebko.

All I know is I'm not rushing to grab a 31 year old dude with a hip injury and 8 month recovery on July 2nd. Then again, Jo Noah and Mozgov's contracts so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

OFWGKTA · Post #120 » by **OFWGKTA** » Sat Jul 2, 2016 3:39 pm

jmr07019 wrote:Crowder and two of Young, Rozier, Hunter, Mickey, Yabs, Zizic, Clips 1st for Millsap would be my max offer. Can't give more given the uncertainty of his FA next year when contracts will be even bigger.

Zero chance I give up Crowder in a deal for Milsap, but it doesn't matter Horford will be a Celtic