Portland - 2016 Offseason

[Masterfully]

Yeah, but normally restricted free agents don't fetch too much of a return. The fact that they're free agents and the interested team could just sign them outright lowers their value.

Yes, RFAs don't typically yield good return. But they can't just sign him outright. Portland has total control over where Crabbe plays unless he accepts his QO.

[cucad8]

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[Wizenheimer]

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am I the only confused about what "large" means after the last 36 hours?

[The Sebastian Express]

I think Gaosl is an interesting option. We're a young team. A young team with even younger bigs. I'm not opposed, should he choose us, to paying him to bring that experience and knowledge to young bigs and the team overall, that championship experience and demeanor.

[Wizenheimer]

if the Blazers wanted to keep both Harkless and Crabbe, they could offer a 2 year deal of about 30-32 million or a 3 year deal of 45-48 million. That might be considered large

[Blazinaway]

looks like Biyombo got around 4/70

[Masterfully]

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am I the only confused about what "large" means after the last 36 hours?

[Wizenheimer]

looks like Biyombo got around 4/70

now the question is, who would you rather have at 4/70, Turner or Biyombo?

[Run PDX]

Something tells me Toronto will make an offer to Leonard soon. He was meeting the Raptors earlier...

[Blazinaway]

looks like Biyombo got around 4/70

now the question is, who would you rather have at 4/70, Turner or Biyombo?

Turner, Biyombo turned FIVE good playoff games into a huge overpay IMO. He's awful on offense and has bad hands.

[Wizenheimer]

Arron Afflalo got a 2-year/25-million deal from the Kings

[HoopsFanAZ]

Who to have of Biyombo or Turner at 4 and $70 mil.?

Both.

[PTPaQ]

looks like Biyombo got around 4/70

now the question is, who would you rather have at 4/70, Turner or Biyombo?

Turner. He is going to grow on Rip City once all these "new contract smells" wear off. I love him.

And Gasol was my number 1 big man choice for a win-now move assuming the roster was assembled right. I'm down with all of this right now.

[The Sebastian Express]

Something tells me Toronto will make an offer to Leonard soon. He was meeting the Raptors earlier...

as Duster pointed out (unless this is new, non-TMZ information), that was quickly debunked. The man in the picture doesn't even look like Meyers.

[Masterfully]

Man, I'd pay money to make KD go to Boston. Not a lot of money. But if like $27 of my hard earned money made it happen I would totally do it.

Just to see the league wide fall out.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

from Olshey's POV I think he wants Gasol because of the short term deal he'd be. I think Olshey has every intention of re-signing CJ and he knows that a short-term fix at C makes a lot of sense with the trio of Dame-CJ-Turner probably on schedule to make 70 million a year combined by July 2017...and Plumlee scheduled for hi extension when the cap is 110 million

as far as trajectory, I think Gasol on last year's Blazer team would have upgraded the team significantly, and I like Plumlee. Gasol is as good an assist man as Plumlee; he's a better rebounder, a better defender and a better rim protector. Further, he's actually a threat on offense opponents would have to respect

Better than Plumlee I'll buy but I just don't believe it will be by much. He's 35, limited mobility, strictly a center at this point, his defense is not going to be any better. His offense would be an upgrade, but I'm sticking to my belief he wouldn't have gotten us past a healthy Clippers team, let alone make a difference against GS. He would be fine if we could strictly add him, but when the equation becomes losing rights to younger players that's when I would balk at any short-term solution.

I also think you're making a significant leap of faith that 'young' players signed to contracts this summer will somehow have positive trade value next year or the year after. First of all, they have to perform and they need to have widely applicable skills. Meyers only has one skill, perimeter shooting, and it's inconsistent. Being tall and sloth-like slow isn't a skill; and being a sieve on defense isn't one either

Crabbe may have a skill that would give him some positive value, but that assumption depends on the type of contract he's on. If he ends up being paid 15-18 million/year, there's no positive value there that I can see

it might be worth keeping in mind justhow to justify paying Crabbe a lot of money. Lillard is going to make 28 million/year. Turner 17.5 million a year. In less then a year CJ is very likely to be on a contract paying him 25 million/year, or more

that's over 70 million a year, then add Crabbe to the mix and it could easily be 85 million a year for those 4 players...ouch. There are a whole lot of flaws in the foursome to be paying 85 million a year for

Who knows if they would be positive but, short of an outrageous overpay (ie Crabbe at 18), having players like Aminu/Davis/Crabbe/Harkless/Meyers on deals between 7-14 million gives us options in trade. If Aminu is the player another team wants then we still have Harkless/Crabbe. I'm not saying these players would be the main attraction, but would give the other team options of how they want to match salary. The fewer contracts we have in that range, the fewer options we have to match salary.

[Butter]

looks like Biyombo got around 4/70

now the question is, who would you rather have at 4/70, Turner or Biyombo?

I actually really like what Turner brings to this team on the court. I do agree that his contract is not a good value though.

[Wizenheimer]

Man, I'd pay money to make KD go to Boston. Not a lot of money. But if like $27 of my hard earned money made it happen I would totally do it.

Just to see the league wide fall out.

there might be a lesson here though

Portland gave a crazy offer to Kanter and OKC stubbornly matched it. It's looking like that decision has really altered their prospects. Blazers should keep that in mind with their own RFA's

[Wizenheimer]

Who knows if they would be positive but, short of an outrageous overpay (ie Crabbe at 18), having players like Aminu/Davis/Crabbe/Harkless/Meyers on deals between 7-14 million gives us options in trade. If Aminu is the player another team wants then we still have Harkless/Crabbe. I'm not saying these players would be the main attraction, but would give the other team options of how they want to match salary. The fewer contracts we have in that range, the fewer options we have to match salary.

you're overlooking the 'fact' that quite often, the trade value of cap-space/TPE's is much better then that of players, of whatever age, with large deals. Portland doesn't have to bust either the cap or the salary floor to field a team with good trade leverage

[Jsun947]

Wtf is Orlando doing?

They gave up Oladipo and their 2016 pick for Ibaka. He has to play 36-40 minutes a night.
Then they sign Biyombo for 17.5 mil, I'd think they expect him to play 30 minutes a game.

That leaves about 30 minutes a game total between Aaron Gordon & Vucevic. And even less if they plan on ever playing Jeff Green a single minute at PF

I have to imagine Vucevic or Aaron Gordon gets traded within a week... Vucevic at 11.75, 12.25, and 12.75 is a great contract in this new cap climate.