Random Rumor Thread: Post em here

Clipsz 4 Life · Post #1261 » by **Tim Lehrbach** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 12:36 am

Birdie wrote:
Masterfully wrote:
Blazinaway wrote:does Bos still have capspace for Durant?

No, but if they can find a team to take Amir Johnson they will be fine.

They don't have to find someone, they can just waive him. Amir and Jerebko agreed to amend their guarantee dates to 7/7 I believe, so, that BOS could make these moves if they were possible.

Would still make more sense to trade them because I imagine there must be teams out there that would give up something, even a token amount, to nab one or both of them before they hit the market.

RexRyan · Post #1262 » by **RexRyan** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 12:42 am

Tim Lehrbach wrote:
Birdie wrote:
Masterfully wrote:No, but if they can find a team to take Amir Johnson they will be fine.

They don't have to find someone, they can just waive him. Amir and Jerebko agreed to amend their guarantee dates to 7/7 I believe, so, that BOS could make these moves if they were possible.

Would still make more sense to trade them because I imagine there must be teams out there that would give up something, even a token amount, to nab one or both of them before they hit the market.

Amir and Jonas both had those team options extended until the 7th because of this situation. The C's can still waive them.

Clipsz 4 Life · Post #1263 » by **Tim Lehrbach** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 12:53 am

RexRyan wrote:
Tim Lehrbach wrote:
Birdie wrote:
They don't have to find someone, they can just waive him. Amir and Jerebko agreed to amend their guarantee dates to 7/7 I believe, so, that BOS could make these moves if they were possible.

Would still make more sense to trade them because I imagine there must be teams out there that would give up something, even a token amount, to nab one or both of them before they hit the market.

Amir and Jonas both had those team options extended until the 7th because of this situation. The C's can still waive them.

Right, I understand. Still, Boston should be working the phones to line up a deal or deals for these guys when the moratorium ends. Their contracts will be guaranteed that day, but if you're getting Durant, you just have him wait to sign until July 7 -- after you've moved Amir and/or Jonas for a li'l something (and waived the other if there are no takers). Why waste that opportunity? Those guys are on bargain contracts. Somebody will give up a pick or an even cheaper replacement that clears enough space.

RexRyan · Post #1264 » by **RexRyan** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 12:58 am

Tim Lehrbach wrote:
RexRyan wrote:
Tim Lehrbach wrote:
Would still make more sense to trade them because I imagine there must be teams out there that would give up something, even a token amount, to nab one or both of them before they hit the market.

Amir and Jonas both had those team options extended until the 7th because of this situation. The C's can still waive them.

Right, I understand. Still, Boston should be working the phones to line up a deal or deals for these guys when the moratorium ends. Their contracts will be guaranteed that day, but if you're getting Durant, you just have him wait to sign until July 7 -- after you've moved Amir and/or Jonas for a li'l something (and waived the other if there are no takers). Why waste that opportunity? Those guys are on bargain contracts. Somebody will give up a pick or an even cheaper replacement that clears enough space.

Or they'll wait until they're waived. That's why the players agreed to the extension - so if waived, they could participate in free agency. No way the Celtics squelch on that.

Clipsz 4 Life · Post #1265 » by **Tim Lehrbach** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:13 am

RexRyan wrote:
Tim Lehrbach wrote:
RexRyan wrote:
Amir and Jonas both had those team options extended until the 7th because of this situation. The C's can still waive them.

Right, I understand. Still, Boston should be working the phones to line up a deal or deals for these guys when the moratorium ends. Their contracts will be guaranteed that day, but if you're getting Durant, you just have him wait to sign until July 7 -- after you've moved Amir and/or Jonas for a li'l something (and waived the other if there are no takers). Why waste that opportunity? Those guys are on bargain contracts. Somebody will give up a pick or an even cheaper replacement that clears enough space.

Or they'll wait until they're waived. That's why the players agreed to the extension - so if waived, they could participate in free agency. No way the Celtics squelch on that.

I think I'm missing something here. Can't they still be claimed off waivers and have their contract guaranteed by a new team? I don't see how that's any better than getting traded.

nomansland · Post #1266 » by **nomansland** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:38 am

Slava wrote:I think the value of first round picks is dropping once more. You'll find quite a few teams indiscriminately trading picks for players very soon.

I hope so. The Nugs are in a good spot to take advantage of those kinds of deals.

Post #1267 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:51 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/749419703156649984[/tweet]

at least nick can be happy today.....

Post #1268 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 1:59 am

Texas Chuck wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/749419703156649984[/tweet]

at least nick can be happy today.....

Well, at least misery has company?

If its for 2 years (or more) I am bummed. I'm expecting...

3/65m last year half guaranteed.

I'm hoping for 1/25m

Waiting for the shoe to drop is sad.

The Sparest · Post #1269 » by **The Sparest** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 2:20 am

jbk1234 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/albertrandom1/status/749349990032605184[/tweet]

Teams are spending like the cap is going up to $159M next year when it's only going up to $109M.

I guess it's better to spend money like there is no tomorrow, than spend tonight like there is no money.

nickhx2 · Post #1270 » by **nickhx2** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 2:54 am

Texas Chuck wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/749419703156649984[/tweet]

at least nick can be happy today.....

it'd be joyous

Dupp · Post #1271 » by **Dupp** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:56 am

Whoever signs jamal instantly goes in the running for worst contract, no matter the amount.

Post #1272 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:14 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/DanWoikeSports/status/749629319362654208[/tweet]

nickhx2 · Post #1273 » by **nickhx2** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:20 pm

pls let this be true

and by significant offer i hope it's in the 3/50 range

Post #1274 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:25 pm

nickhx2 wrote:pls let this be true

and by significant offer i hope it's in the 3/50 range

As long as its only guaranteed for year 1...

Post #1275 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:35 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/749641585634123776[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/749642157401657344[/tweet]

coordinator0 · Post #1276 » by **coordinator0** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:37 pm

If the Kings will be looking for a backup point guard, are they not planning on keeping (or being able to keep) Curry?

Post #1277 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:39 pm

coordinator0 wrote:If the Kings will be looking for a backup point guard, are they not planning on keeping (or being able to keep) Curry?

teams need at least 3 PG's and Curry is more of a combo guard anyway. They need another body.

nickhx2 · Post #1278 » by **nickhx2** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:40 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
nickhx2 wrote:pls let this be true

and by significant offer i hope it's in the 3/50 range

As long as its only guaranteed for year 1...

not sure it was mentioned here, but one of the clipper blogs said crawford was offered a 1 year at $12m and he rejected it.

sooooo i'm guessing he's getting significantly more, and clearly he wants more than 12. he's said many times he feels like he could play for a few more years, or even to 40, so it seems like he really wants a big contract to close out his career.

Crossy2008 · Post #1279 » by **Crossy2008** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:45 pm

I love how the Kings are comfortable going forward with a point guard who is facing legal charges. Must be nice being King(s).

Post #1280 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:51 pm

Crossy2008 wrote:I love how the Kings are comfortable going forward with a point guard who is facing legal charges. Must be nice being King(s).

Well according to the above tehy are misdemeanor charges so I could see how they might feel better about things. And while its low-hanging fruit to bash the Kings, they have had one of the best off-seasons so far. Great value on teh Beli trade, great value on their FA deals.

We need to be careful not to call moves bad based on history, but on the moves themselves.

Now Collison isn't a very good starter and I'm sure they'd love an upgrade but that guy isn't currently on the market.