The Official Off-Season Thread, part I of many

[lon3lytoaster]

I find it really interesting that Jae, IT, Smart and Olynyk were the ones present at the meeting with KD. Where is Bradley? Is this just a coincidence, or is this like Lebron not mentioning Wiggins in his 'I'm coming home' letter? Are these guys keepers?

Who's gonna open Bradley is getting traded for ... thread?

I don't think Bradley is on the block. I believe he had a skills camp going on during the meeting that was likely planned months in advance. It's hard to bail on 9 and 10 year olds.

But, if anything of the Butler trade talk was true it definitely seemed Jae is a guy the Celtics are enormed with. Possibly due to his better positional versatility. I know Ainge really loves AB too but id say he'd the one to go if push came to shove

[sam_I_am]

When IT and Crowder on court together, per 538 website, the impact (+8 pts I believe) is comparible to top 10 player (IT alone is rated 15th).

[sam_I_am]

When Sully goes we will have a glaring weakness - rebounding.

[lon3lytoaster]

When Sully goes we will have a glaring weakness - rebounding.

We've yet to see if he will go. His cap hold isn't much and we should have a little wiggle room in regards to inking Durant (please.. Please) and Horford first. After that, it doesn't matter. We can go over the cap and get him hopefully with a 2/22-23 offer.

[GregB]

When Sully goes we will have a glaring weakness - rebounding.

We've yet to see if he will go. His cap hold isn't much and we should have a little wiggle room in regards to inking Durant (please.. Please) and Horford first. After that, it doesn't matter. We can go over the cap and get him hopefully with a 2/22-23 offer.

Don't love Sully. But, He's definitely better than Zeller.

I am very interested to see our starting front court next to Horford. Signing Durant certainly weakens it. Would we just start Crowder if Durant signed? Thomas, Bradley, Durant, Crowder, Horford would be a pretty nasty lineup.

[ParticleMan]

yeah that would be the lineup. crowder is really a 3/4, we've actually played some of our best ball with crowder at the 4. durant is also really a 3/4 anyways. very versatile team defensively. but yeah... rebounding. not gonna be our strong suit but we can be ok if KD and crowder commit to it.

[sam_I_am]

yeah that would be the lineup. crowder is really a 3/4, we've actually played some of our best ball with crowder at the 4. durant is also really a 3/4 anyways. very versatile team defensively. but yeah... rebounding. not gonna be our strong suit but we can be ok if KD and crowder commit to it.

We would need an energy guy to combat Tristan Thompson. Zizac is only guy on roster who fills that role when if ever he is ready for NBA. I thought we had to rescind all cap holds including to Sully and Zeller to sign Durant to max.

[BakersDozen]

Am i the only one who wouldnt trade for Butler if we did get KD? Bulls will still want a ransom of a package and guys like AB/Crowder are needed to get a title. Id offer Smart/brooklyn 17 or 18 and amir thats it.


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[soxfan2003]

If KD joins the Celtics, I certainly wouldn't trade a ransom for Butler in the off-season. If he got hurt like in the Olympics, Boston would be in bad shape in terms of a title shot.

Boston can just play it conservative the first half of the season and if they want the Celtics can even showcase J. Brown by trying to play him with IT/KD quite a bit. It will make him look better than he really is like what happened to Barnes in GSW before Barnes was exposed.

[MrClass]

what about middleton?
i really love this guy

[ThePigeon]

yeah that would be the lineup. crowder is really a 3/4, we've actually played some of our best ball with crowder at the 4. durant is also really a 3/4 anyways. very versatile team defensively. but yeah... rebounding. not gonna be our strong suit but we can be ok if KD and crowder commit to it.

We would need an energy guy to combat Tristan Thompson. Zizac is only guy on roster who fills that role when if ever he is ready for NBA. I thought we had to rescind all cap holds including to Sully and Zeller to sign Durant to max.

Or a brute like Gasol

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[BakersDozen]

So what is the plan if we sign KD.......and whats the plan if we don't.

KD signs.
I'm guessing all our cap space is used up. No idea. What else we can do.
Thomas/AB/KD/Crowder/Horford

KD chooses OKC/GS

go hard after Butler?
pick up options on Amir/Jerebko?
do we keep Zizic with the team?
whats the cap space look like now. Id still like Terrence Jones and Thomas Robinson would be a rebounding specialist we could use.

[galipeautim]

I think Stanley Johnson's article on the Player's Tribune is particularly relevant for Jaylen Brown. Johnson also relied on driving in the lane and getting above the rim. He said he thought he could always rely on that, but he realized with the athletes in the NBA it's nearly impossible to do. I think Brown will have the same awakening and hopefully he can broaden his game. Brown was a freak athlete at Cal and an above average basketball player. His rookie year in the NBA he will probably be an above average athlete and a below average basketball player. Can he improve at the latter?

[galipeautim]

So what is the plan if we sign KD.......and whats the plan if we don't.

KD signs.
I'm guessing all our cap space is used up. No idea. What else we can do.
Thomas/AB/KD/Crowder/Horford

KD chooses OKC/GS

go hard after Butler?
pick up options on Amir/Jerebko?
do we keep Zizic with the team?
whats the cap space look like now. Id still like Terrence Jones and Thomas Robinson would be a rebounding specialist we could use.

If KD signs you hand out some one year deals and make a run at Westbrook next summer.

[galipeautim]

When Sully goes we will have a glaring weakness - rebounding.

We've yet to see if he will go. His cap hold isn't much and we should have a little wiggle room in regards to inking Durant (please.. Please) and Horford first. After that, it doesn't matter. We can go over the cap and get him hopefully with a 2/22-23 offer.

I don't think the order matters. If we sign other free agents for more than the exception the I don't believe we can go over the cap re-sign a player. Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but I'm trying to build more confidence that we don't bring back Sulldoval!

[Bohemian]

Alright, time to move on

What was plan B again?

[greenpierce]

Does Zizic get to come over now?

[benjaminbuttonz]

Kevin Durant single-handedly doubled the amount of tanking teams in the NBA this year, Nets pick probably won't be top 5 now.

[wickerhd]

No long term contracts. Give Dirk $30 mill on a one year contract and let the kids play to manage his minutes. During playoffs we'd sport a big eight of IT, Bradley, Smart, Dirk, Crowder, Horford, and two young guns ready to make the leap.


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[galipeautim]

Kevin Durant single-handedly doubled the amount of tanking teams in the NBA this year, Nets pick probably won't be top 5 now.

No it doesn't...tanking candidates already had no shot at beating Golden State.