The AL Horford Dilemma

[PandaKidd]

Hey Guys, Sixers fan here. I have a question.

I thought Horford complained all these years about wanting to play the 4. So, how come after you guys get a true 5 Horford left? Im not trolling, and if I offend someone Im sorry but, this is just a question I can't seem to answer.

Thanks!

I just can't buy into the notion that 6M dollars was the only thing standing in the way of us resigning Horford. That would have came out to a little over 1M dollars per year over the life of the contract. I don't think he wanted to play with Dwight.

He wanted to be treated like a Superstar. He took offense to them signing Dwight so quickly imo.

They tried to save face but I think they moved on from Al quickly. Which I'm in complete agreement with them on

[atlantabbq99]

Hey Guys, Sixers fan here. I have a question.

I thought Horford complained all these years about wanting to play the 4. So, how come after you guys get a true 5 Horford left? Im not trolling, and if I offend someone Im sorry but, this is just a question I can't seem to answer.

Thanks!

I just can't buy into the notion that 6M dollars was the only thing standing in the way of us resigning Horford. That would have came out to a little over 1M dollars per year over the life of the contract. I don't think he wanted to play with Dwight.

No, it has nothing to do with Dwight, Horford said that we suck (fans), that is why he left...

Horford: "when we were playing Boston, they were down 15 points and they were cheering their team like they were winning the game. They’re so into the game"

He is a #1 douchebag!

[dms269]

There are more than one reason for why he left. It isn't solely about the fans. I think it is also due to the fact that he is no longer the main man (with Dwight).

He also felt he was worth 150 million, he obviously was not.

The public reason is the fans, because that is less aholey.

[atlantabbq99]

There are more than one reason for why he left. It isn't solely about the fans. I think it is also due to the fact that he is no longer the main man (with Dwight).

He also felt he was worth 150 million, he obviously was not.

The public reason is the fans, because that is less aholey.

The fan reason would make him more aholey.

[Jamaaliver]

Horford said that we suck (fans), that is why he left...

Horford: "when we were playing Boston, they were down 15 points and they were cheering their team like they were winning the game. They’re so into the game"

He is a #1 douchebag!

1. How is him commenting on another team's fans anywhere remotely close to saying Atlanta fans suck?

2. You're quoting a conversation his father claims he had.


We can be frustrated at AL for leaving...but we gotta have a better reason than some offhand comment made in private that has nothing to do with us.

Screaming he's '#1 douchebag' over nonsense like this makes us seem petty and jealous.


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[atlantabbq99]

Horford said that we suck (fans), that is why he left...

Horford: "when we were playing Boston, they were down 15 points and they were cheering their team like they were winning the game. They’re so into the game"

He is a #1 douchebag!

1. How is him commenting on another team's fans anywhere remotely close to saying Atlanta fans suck?

2. You're quoting a conversation his father claims he had.


We can be frustrated at AL for leaving...but we gotta have a better reason than some offhand comment made in private that has nothing to do with us.

Screaming he's '#1 douchebag' over nonsense like this makes us seem petty and jealous.

If Horford left because the Hawks only offered him 100 million for 4 years, then im totally cool with him leaving. Money is money, extra 13 million is legit.

If Horford left to play with an MVP candidate like Durant or Harden, then again, im totally cool with that. I can totally understand that desire, no hate there.

Horford left because of fans! He is a grade 'A' douchebag

[Jamaaliver]

Horford left because of fans! He is a grade 'A' douchebag

Money, ego, fans may have played a part.

But I suspect he left also because BOS will likely still be a top team by the time his contract ends. Their core is younger. They just added a top draftee. They still have enough cap space/flexibility to sign a max player. If not this offseason, then next.

I like the addition of Howard, but three years from now we are more likely to be in a massive rebuild than still chugging along as a perennial 4th seed.


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[PandaKidd]

Claiming Al left because of fans is just blind and stupid.

Truth is you have no real idea WHY, you can only speculate.

I doubt his entire decision was as simple as "man I want to hear more cheering" lol

[atlantabbq99]

Money, ego, fans may have played a part.

But I suspect he left also because BOS will likely still be a top team by the time his contract ends. Their core is younger. They just added a top draftee. They still have enough cap space/flexibility to sign a max player. If not this offseason, then next.

I like the addition of Howard, but three years from now we are more likely to be in a massive rebuild than still chugging along as a perennial 4th seed.

I don't want to argue about which team has the better future, because i disagree, i think the Hawks have a better future, but anyway, we can all agree that Al didn't stay for the Atlanta fans.

If Al was a good guy and cared about the Atlanta fans, then the right thing to do would be to call Budz and say, hey the best offer i got was 113 million for 4 years, if you just match that, i'll stay. But he didn't do that he is a douchebag.

[Jamaaliver]

Oy vey.




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[Geaux_Hawks]

I'm not disappointed at all that he left, and could care less why he left. He was treated like he was a franchise player, and was merely just a very good,versatile player that doesn't deserve to be in consideration for a max salary. He never lifted his game to carrying us and and was massively outperformed by a super sub in the playoffs twice.

Time to move on from him, and come to the realization that we are better with Howard/Milsaps. Wish him all the luck in the world, and can't really talk bad about him at all, but this franchise needed to move on from him, and go with something new. Milsaps is a better overall player, and will serve as a better PF going forward, and we will hopefully get a better center in Howard.

[reazun]

I have been a die hard atlanta fan since 1996. With the exception of alot of people on this board, Atlanta fans have been ridiculously fickle, really non-existent for the most part. Yeah they show up for the playoffs but then boo their own team if they don't feel they are doing well enough. Al was in atlanta in 2010 while he was literally booed on his own homecourt, not to mention the ownership fiasco. Joe Johnson led us back to the playoffs how many times? He gets booed when he visits us? Why? Because the mass of the people in the arena are not real fans. They dont appreciate the players, they whine, complain, and dont support.

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[Jamaaliver]

I have been a die hard atlanta fan since 1996. With the exception of alot of people on this board, Atlanta fans have been ridiculously fickle, really non-existent for the most part. Yeah they show up for the playoffs but then boo their own team if they don't feel they are doing well enough. Al was in atlanta in 2010 while he was literally booed on his own homecourt, not to mention the ownership fiasco. Joe Johnson led us back to the playoffs how many times? He gets booed when he visits us? Why? Because the mass of the people in the arena are not real fans. They dont appreciate the players, they whine, complain, and dont support.

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It's a hard truth. But an accurate one. I saw the Braves go the playoffs 14 straight seasons, but struggle to sell out post season games from 1998 on.

The city is so diverse and such a mixture, but the majority supports winners only. The mediocre and bad teams get modest support at best.

That is the very definition of a fair-weather fan.


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[Jamaaliver]

He was treated like he was a franchise player, and was merely just a very good,versatile player that doesn't deserve to be in consideration for a max salary. Milsaps is a better overall player...

I honestly don't know if this true or not.

But it's telling that a full 1/3 of the NBA, including his current team, viewed him as a max player and centerpiece talent.

While many of his home fans did not.

I am a little disappointed that after 9 seasons, we never once at least tried him PF for a season. Despite the fact that every coach he had seemed to agree he'd thrive there.



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[reazun]

I have been a die hard atlanta fan since 1996. With the exception of alot of people on this board, Atlanta fans have been ridiculously fickle, really non-existent for the most part. Yeah they show up for the playoffs but then boo their own team if they don't feel they are doing well enough. Al was in atlanta in 2010 while he was literally booed on his own homecourt, not to mention the ownership fiasco. Joe Johnson led us back to the playoffs how many times? He gets booed when he visits us? Why? Because the mass of the people in the arena are not real fans. They dont appreciate the players, they whine, complain, and dont support.

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So what im saying is, if Al is upset with Atlanta fan culture, then okay. Lets not be blind. Hope im not offending any on this board, like i said its not yall, but others in atlanta. You really can't deny it. I love in Chicago now, every mall had at least one store dedicated entirely to Chicago sports. I remember walking into multiple sports stores in atlanta and asking for hawks products, then Iiterally being laughed at by the workers. It was probably easier finding Boston shirts than Hawks in Atlanta while we were a playoff team. Anyone who had been a Hawks fan for over a decade cant really disagree. Good for Al imo, so Go Hawks, i hope Dwight wipes the floor with him, but not b.c he is salty at the Hawks, but b.c. im a Hawks fan.

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[atlantabbq99]

He was treated like he was a franchise player, and was merely just a very good,versatile player that doesn't deserve to be in consideration for a max salary. Milsaps is a better overall player...

I honestly don't know if this true or not.

But it's telling that a full 1/3 of the NBA, including his current team, viewed him as a max player and centerpiece talent.

While many of his home fans did not.

I am a little disappointed that after 9 seasons, we never once at least tried him PF for a season. Despite the fact that every coach he had seemed to agree he'd thrive there.

Horford plays PF for extended minutes the few years when Zaza was here.

[atlantabbq99]

Their are athletes who creates fans, and their are athletes who want to be given die hard fans. This is a cop-out by Horford and its lame

lets say the fans didn''t cheer as loud. the organization drafted you, treated you right, paid you more than you're worth, put good people around you, never forced you to go through a rebuild. their is no excuse for that scumbag Horford.

Atlanta always had a hard time getting stars, but i was always proud that once Atlanta got a star, they loved the place and stayed. Pistol resigned, Dominique resigned, Smitty resigned, Mookie resigned, Deke resigned, Terry resigned, Joe resigned, Millsap resigned.

Horford and Manning are the only two guys i can remember in the last 30 years, who didn't resign when the Hawks offered them a contract.

[DirtybirdGA]

I thought Al wanted a center, he doesn't like Howard I guess.

[slicedbread2]

Their are athletes who creates fans, and their are athletes who want to be given die hard fans. This is a cop-out by Horford and its lame

lets say the fans didn''t cheer as loud. the organization drafted you, treated you right, paid you more than you're worth, put good people around you, never forced you to go through a rebuild. their is no excuse for that scumbag Horford.

Atlanta always had a hard time getting stars, but i was always proud that once Atlanta got a star, they loved the place and stayed. Pistol resigned, Dominique resigned, Smitty resigned, Mookie resigned, Deke resigned, Terry resigned, Joe resigned, Millsap resigned.

Horford and Manning are the only two guys i can remember in the last 30 years, who didn't resign when the Hawks offered them a contract.

That's really rough.

Nonetheless it's not too bad now since it seemed like Horford was ready to move on.

Have to ask what caused Danny Manning to leave Atlanta? Was it the pressure of being the guy who had to fill in Dominique's shoes?

[MaceCase]

I have been a die hard atlanta fan since 1996. With the exception of alot of people on this board, Atlanta fans have been ridiculously fickle, really non-existent for the most part. Yeah they show up for the playoffs but then boo their own team if they don't feel they are doing well enough. Al was in atlanta in 2010 while he was literally booed on his own homecourt, not to mention the ownership fiasco. Joe Johnson led us back to the playoffs how many times? He gets booed when he visits us? Why? Because the mass of the people in the arena are not real fans. They dont appreciate the players, they whine, complain, and dont support.

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Eh, if you want to really add context to 2010 then you'd remember they were in the midst of being on the wrong end of a historically bad playoff performance when Joe dropped the gem that he didn't care about the fans. Yea, you're an apologist if you're going to continue cheering through both a lack of effort and being disrespected by a player.