Trade next year's first rounder?

[Kilo]

Basically what BBF said. I know we are high on our team, but outsiders see us as a fringe play-off team. A lot of teams in the East improved whereas we've added Ish Smith and Jon Leuer. We're mostly hoping for internal improvements from Dre, Stanley and KCP along with a training camp with Harris and then banking on continuity to win us games early in the season when other teams with overhauls have some growing pains to come together.

Dre gets hurt and we're Baynes|Leuer, Jackson gets hurt and we're Ish Smith|Lorenzo Brown. East might not have the elite teams outside of Cleveland, but there is a lot of depth 2-12 even.

[russkopp]

I agree with most people's opinion on this. We've improved and will have a bench that won't INSTANTLY give up leads but other teams got better too.
Cavs, raptors, Celtics, Pacers, heat, Hawks are playoff teams. I personally would put us in the second tier but an injury or an unforeseen slide makes that pick too valuable. Unless the deal is stupid good, hold on to it.

[Brapman]

No brainer: keep the pick unless there's a no-brainer trade.

The best answers are self-referential!

[DBC10]

Rookie contracts are still too valuable until they start scaling with the cap. So I'm hesitant than most when trading picks unless they're 2nd rounders.

But so far, SVG has been doing pretty good in trading picks and sometimes even getting picks back like the Meeks trade. Though it's really insignificant.

[theBigLip]

Lip all it takes is an injury to Dre and we are like the Spurs when David Robison got injured. Given that and the improved status of the other teams it's just not worth the gamble.

Besides do you think the roster as constructed, even if full, is enough to actually win anything? Since we aren't going to land a superstar or even second tier superstar in free agency, player development and trades will be the only way. I like the opportunity of a pick better than the tank. Exception would be if acquire the tank with a deal in place to get a pick for Baynes.

Agree, a Drummond injury would change the value of a pick very quickly. Of course, when I mention trading our first, it would be only to acquire a starter level quality player - I wouldn't want us to dump it for something average. Even the DMo trade was questionable.

As for the question if our roster can win anything, I do. I think everyone is going to raise their game this year. Seriously, all across the board, all these young players are hungry, got a taste of the playoffs, and they are going to take a step up. Does that win us the East? Not likely, but I think a top 4 seed is not out of the question.

[chrbal]

With the way contracts are going, I would keep the pick to gain affordable talent

[BIG BEN'S FRO]

With the way contracts are going, I would keep the pick to gain affordable talent

And resign that player to a cheaper max contract the first time they are up.

[DocRI]

Never say never, especially with our FO (who've shown a willingness to explore absolutely all avenues towards improvement). That said ...

• Absolutely never trade an unprotected first rounder unless the return is so unspeakably good that the deal would literally break these message boards. As others have said, we're one horrific fluke injury to Dre away from counting lotto balls again, and nothing would be worse than losing a season AND the high pick that would come with it.

• I think this is something to explore at the trade deadline because right now everybody's 0-0 and all teams are optimistic about next season. That'll change by February. Totally pulling this out of my butt as an example, but what if UTA's season goes straight down the crapper and Derrick Favors is suddenly made available? Or Jimmy Butler, or heck even Blake Griffin? I'm not saying these guys will actually hit the trade block, but the names available right now are nowhere near as good as the names who'll be available at the deadline.

[Pharaoh]

I'm in the camp that believes you should always be looking to acquire more future first round picks since most teams are a freak injury away from the lotto

In the current climate where these picks are paid next to nothing I would be very reluctant to give up a first round pick

[Spider156]

Lol people on here are really underestimating the difference "internal improvement" makes. It's MASSIVE!! Curry went from a weak guard to the best shooter in history. Drummond goes from completely clueless offensively to a consistent dominance on the glass. What do you think he'll be like next season? NOBODY KNOWS! If Drummond improves anywhere close to the improvement he showed last season, it's game over for the league. If the league takes away the intentional fouling, it's game over for the league! If KCP somehow turns it up offensively which literally happens in one season, it'll be one hell of an improvement! People need to be patient man. We have a player in his second year that I actually expect to one day become an All Star. People just don't know!

[A_dub06]

Current climate or not, longevity I feel had largely to do with the teams drafting. Gaining you pieces to develop with vets which can eventually step up and take their role is incredibly valuable and it always shocks me when people are so quick to suggest reading away a first rounder. There's gems to be had in almost every draft and while it's unlikely your team finds it (unless the Spurs) it's still worth the possibility of extending the length of competitiveness.


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[ElectricMayhem]

Sign and trade next year's pick for Motie.

[In SVG We Trust]

I agree with most people's opinion on this. We've improved and will have a bench that won't INSTANTLY give up leads but other teams got better too.
Cavs, raptors, Celtics, Pacers, heat, Hawks are playoff teams. I personally would put us in the second tier but an injury or an unforeseen slide makes that pick too valuable. Unless the deal is stupid good, hold on to it.

Cavs and maybe Raptors are the only teams clearly better than us.

[russkopp]

I agree with most people's opinion on this. We've improved and will have a bench that won't INSTANTLY give up leads but other teams got better too.
Cavs, raptors, Celtics, Pacers, heat, Hawks are playoff teams. I personally would put us in the second tier but an injury or an unforeseen slide makes that pick too valuable. Unless the deal is stupid good, hold on to it.

Cavs and maybe Raptors are the only teams clearly better than us.

Poor wording on my part. I agree with you, I guess I can see the Celtics improving but besides that, we should be right there. I don't get why people like the Pacers so much as well.

[treefi]

Draft class is supposed to be superior to this years. I wouldn't trade it. Rookie contracts are even more valuable with the cap explosion now.

Yeah, MUCH better draft class. Though I think we'll be picking outside of the top 20.

[ImHeisenberg]

Draft class is supposed to be superior to this years. I wouldn't trade it. Rookie contracts are even more valuable with the cap explosion now.

Yeah, MUCH better draft class. Though I think we'll be picking outside of the top 20.

You don't have to pick in the top 10 to get great players out of the draft. That has been proven every year with smart drafting.

Plus, you just never know. We could have injuries to a few key players that sends a season down the tubes.

[bstein14]

If they don't change the Hack a Shaq rule and Dre doesn't get to above 50%... we'll likely to win 42-46 games next year.

If they do change the Hack a Shaq rule or Dre increases his FT shooting to above 50% I think we're likely to win 47-51 games next year.