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Post#101 » by Suka Bongcic » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:02 pm

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CaptainMorgan78 wrote:If the Warriors match this they are complete fools.....that's $23 million a year for Harrison fu***** Barnes....he's not even worth half of that. I will lose all respect for Meyers and Lacob if they match that offer.

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He is considering the current market...

This will be one of the biggest mistakes in this franchise's history if they match that contract, it will severely deplete our bench, which has been one of our biggest assets over the past couple of years, especially when you consider how much we're going to have to pay Curry next year.

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Not saying it won't be a mistake to match a max offer for Barnes, but why would it deplete the bench? We can sign Barnes + every player on our bench if we want to. He's definitely not worth even close to the max.....but you're making things up now
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Post#102 » by marthafokker » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:08 pm

Bench... if we match Barnes.... you have to also match Ezeli.... over pay Mo... and still lose Barbosa if he is willing to take vet min, which mostly he is gone.

So the big splash by management is really do nothing and a less useful bench?

Rather go get others out there to change the look of a runner up team.

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Post#103 » by CaptainMorgan78 » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:19 pm

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He is considering the current market...

This will be one of the biggest mistakes in this franchise's history if they match that contract, it will severely deplete our bench, which has been one of our biggest assets over the past couple of years, especially when you consider how much we're going to have to pay Curry next year.

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Not saying it won't be a mistake to match a max offer for Barnes, but why would it deplete the bench? We can sign Barnes + every player on our bench if we want to. He's definitely not worth even close to the max.....but you're making things up now

You are forgetting that they have to take into consideration the contract they're going to offer Curry next summer. They could seriously pay Matt Barnes $8 mill per year, and alternate he and Igoudala at the small forward position next year and have no loss in production without Harrison Barnes, and they would save $16 million to boot!

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Post#104 » by Mylie10 » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:20 pm

I'm not really down with paying Matt Barnes 8 million, but I get your point.
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Post#105 » by marthafokker » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:28 pm

Mylie10 wrote:I'm not really down with paying Matt Barnes 8 million, but I get your point.


Doesn't have to be Matt. Any SG, SF, PF we have talked about can be better option than max HB.

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Post#106 » by Suka Bongcic » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:33 pm

marthafokker wrote:Bench... if we match Barnes.... you have to also match Ezeli.... over pay Mo... and still lose Barbosa if he is willing to take vet min, which mostly he is gone.

So the big splash by management is really do nothing and a less useful bench?

Rather go get others out there to change the look of a runner up team.

Edit: I am getting tired of spell check with Google.

Why do they have to match Ezeli too? They draft Jones, IMO, to be ezeli a replacement. As for Mo and Barbosa, I think Barbosa returns as long as the Warriors want him back. Money doesn't seem to be a driving force behind Leo (or hasn't been to this point). I'm not sure that he has lots of value on the open market. Mo could be an issue if he's looking for 8-10 a year but I doubt he gets that much. I predict he gets around as much as his last contract. 5-6 mill. At that point, it's just about paying luxury tax, which is inevitable with this team going forward. I think Ezeli is the odd man out due to drafting jones and his possible ridiculous contract.

As for your last comment: Rather go get others out there to change the look of a runner up team..... Good luck with that. We were one teabag away from a title and being regarded as maybe the best team ever. Let's go change the look. Makes a lot of sense, iyo
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Post#107 » by BIG FURB » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:47 pm

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marthafokker wrote:Bench... if we match Barnes.... you have to also match Ezeli.... over pay Mo... and still lose Barbosa if he is willing to take vet min, which mostly he is gone.

So the big splash by management is really do nothing and a less useful bench?

Rather go get others out there to change the look of a runner up team.

Edit: I am getting tired of spell check with Google.

Why do they have to match Ezeli too? They draft Jones, IMO, to be ezeli a replacement. As for Mo and Barbosa, I think Barbosa returns as long as the Warriors want him back. Money doesn't seem to be a driving force behind Leo (or hasn't been to this point). I'm not sure that he has lots of value on the open market. Mo could be an issue if he's looking for 8-10 a year but I doubt he gets that much. I predict he gets around as much as his last contract. 5-6 mill. At that point, it's just about paying luxury tax, which is inevitable with this team going forward. I think Ezeli is the odd man out due to drafting jones and his possible ridiculous contract.

As for your last comment: Rather go get others out there to change the look of a runner up team..... Good luck with that. We were one teabag away from a title and being regarded as maybe the best team ever. Let's go change the look. Makes a lot of sense, iyo


yeah, some warrior fans are still clearly caught up in their feelings over losing the finals. The only major offseason move the warriors had to look at was getting KD, cause when a player like that becomes available you have to swing for the fences. But if they don't land him I don't see why a team that won a title last year, won 73 games this year, and was a Green suspension away from repeating needs to make any major moves. You already have a dominant title contender in place, and I haven't seen any ofseason moves by any other team that's gonna challenge that (unless KD goes to the Spurs). Some people need to just chill, on the list of teams that need to make major offseason moves, the warriors are dead last
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Post#108 » by kaiballz » Sun Jul 3, 2016 4:52 pm

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marthafokker wrote:Bench... if we match Barnes.... you have to also match Ezeli.... over pay Mo... and still lose Barbosa if he is willing to take vet min, which mostly he is gone.

So the big splash by management is really do nothing and a less useful bench?

Rather go get others out there to change the look of a runner up team.

Edit: I am getting tired of spell check with Google.

Why do they have to match Ezeli too? They draft Jones, IMO, to be ezeli a replacement. As for Mo and Barbosa, I think Barbosa returns as long as the Warriors want him back. Money doesn't seem to be a driving force behind Leo (or hasn't been to this point). I'm not sure that he has lots of value on the open market. Mo could be an issue if he's looking for 8-10 a year but I doubt he gets that much. I predict he gets around as much as his last contract. 5-6 mill. At that point, it's just about paying luxury tax, which is inevitable with this team going forward. I think Ezeli is the odd man out due to drafting jones and his possible ridiculous contract.

As for your last comment: Rather go get others out there to change the look of a runner up team..... Good luck with that. We were one teabag away from a title and being regarded as maybe the best team ever. Let's go change the look. Makes a lot of sense, iyo


mo won't get only 5-6m, unfortunately for us. he has improved since his last contract, and the market price went up insanely this offseason.
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Post#109 » by CaptainMorgan78 » Sun Jul 3, 2016 5:14 pm

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Black Falcon wrote:
marthafokker wrote:Bench... if we match Barnes.... you have to also match Ezeli.... over pay Mo... and still lose Barbosa if he is willing to take vet min, which mostly he is gone.

So the big splash by management is really do nothing and a less useful bench?

Rather go get others out there to change the look of a runner up team.

Edit: I am getting tired of spell check with Google.

Why do they have to match Ezeli too? They draft Jones, IMO, to be ezeli a replacement. As for Mo and Barbosa, I think Barbosa returns as long as the Warriors want him back. Money doesn't seem to be a driving force behind Leo (or hasn't been to this point). I'm not sure that he has lots of value on the open market. Mo could be an issue if he's looking for 8-10 a year but I doubt he gets that much. I predict he gets around as much as his last contract. 5-6 mill. At that point, it's just about paying luxury tax, which is inevitable with this team going forward. I think Ezeli is the odd man out due to drafting jones and his possible ridiculous contract.

As for your last comment: Rather go get others out there to change the look of a runner up team..... Good luck with that. We were one teabag away from a title and being regarded as maybe the best team ever. Let's go change the look. Makes a lot of sense, iyo


mo won't get only 5-6m, unfortunately for us. he has improved since his last contract, and the market price went up insanely this offseason.

They should let Mo walk, he's too one dimensional, if his shot is off he's pretty much useless. They should just re-sign Varejao, his price won't be as steep.

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Post#110 » by HiRez » Sun Jul 3, 2016 6:02 pm

BIG FURB wrote:yeah, some warrior fans are still clearly caught up in their feelings over losing the finals. The only major offseason move the warriors had to look at was getting KD, cause when a player like that becomes available you have to swing for the fences. But if they don't land him I don't see why a team that won a title last year, won 73 games this year, and was a Green suspension away from repeating needs to make any major moves. You already have a dominant title contender in place, and I haven't seen any ofseason moves by any other team that's gonna challenge that (unless KD goes to the Spurs). Some people need to just chill, on the list of teams that need to make major offseason moves, the warriors are dead last

Because the other 29 teams in the league are all trying to get better. Some will, some won't. But one of the ones who does might be enough better to beat us next year. Even if they aren't "better" on paper, they might have engineered their team to be a matchup nightmare for us and pull off a "We Believe" scenario.
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Post#111 » by lars_rosenberg » Sun Jul 3, 2016 6:32 pm

Millsap could be available, any chance we can trade for him?
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Post#112 » by Twinkie defense » Sun Jul 3, 2016 6:35 pm

Now that Horford has signed with Boston I don't think Millsap is available


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Post#113 » by ChuckDurn » Sun Jul 3, 2016 6:38 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:Now that Horford has signed with Boston I don't think Millsap is available


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Post#114 » by BIG FURB » Sun Jul 3, 2016 6:46 pm

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BIG FURB wrote:yeah, some warrior fans are still clearly caught up in their feelings over losing the finals. The only major offseason move the warriors had to look at was getting KD, cause when a player like that becomes available you have to swing for the fences. But if they don't land him I don't see why a team that won a title last year, won 73 games this year, and was a Green suspension away from repeating needs to make any major moves. You already have a dominant title contender in place, and I haven't seen any ofseason moves by any other team that's gonna challenge that (unless KD goes to the Spurs). Some people need to just chill, on the list of teams that need to make major offseason moves, the warriors are dead last

Because the other 29 teams in the league are all trying to get better. Some will, some won't. But one of the ones who does might be enough better to beat us next year. Even if they aren't "better" on paper, they might have engineered their team to be a matchup nightmare for us and pull off a "We Believe" scenario.


Unless a team pulls a Boston/Miami "Big 3" and just front loads with top level talent I don't see it happening, at least not through free agency. The only FA that can move the needle like that for a team is KD, and by pursuing him yourselves you're already doing as much as you can to prevent that scenario from happening. Maybe a blockbuster trade might occur, though I haven't heard any rumblings of that happening. and there's no rookie from this past draft that's gonna make a team a danger to you anytime soon. I just haven't seen any moves by any other teams so far that should have you swaying from the "KD or bust" plan. If your team stays put it's still an alltime great team, regardless of what happened this past finals
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Post#115 » by Twinkie defense » Sun Jul 3, 2016 7:05 pm

Memphis had a lot of injuries last year, and have made some moves to reload. Remember OKC came very, very close to knocking the Warriors out of the playoffs - if they get KD back, along with the roster changes they have made, Adam's growth, another year in Donovan's system, they will be a very formidable foe for years to come. Cavs beat us already and they will likely be back. Portland is on the rise...

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Post#116 » by Superbasketball » Sun Jul 3, 2016 7:29 pm

Maybe Lebron will have his jump shot from the beginning this time.

Not sure if GSW can keep Iggy if they sign Barnes for max and pay max to Curry 2 years from now. Losing Iggy would be big blow.
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Post#117 » by jamesnamida » Sun Jul 3, 2016 7:31 pm

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Post#118 » by BIG FURB » Sun Jul 3, 2016 7:59 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:Memphis had a lot of injuries last year, and have made some moves to reload. Remember OKC came very, very close to knocking the Warriors out of the playoffs - if they get KD back, along with the roster changes they have made, Adam's growth, another year in Donovan's system, they will be a very formidable foe for years to come. Cavs beat us already and they will likely be back. Portland is on the rise...

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Parsons was a legit big move by Memphis but the injury concerns with him are real. Talking about OKC is kinda redundant because you guys are currently making the biggest push you possibly can to disrupt their future as title contenders. If he chooses to stay then no matter what you do they're gonna be a thorn in your side (unless of course Westbrook chooses to leave next year). Cavs are always gonna be there but I still think at your best you're better. Portland, we'll see if they have any success signing Pau. If they do they're scary, if not they're still just scrappy up and comers

I stll think going after KD is the only move you should feel any pressure to make. Maybe finding a solid young big man as an insurance policy for Bogut, but that's it
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Post#119 » by Suka Bongcic » Sun Jul 3, 2016 8:11 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:Memphis had a lot of injuries last year, and have made some moves to reload. Remember OKC came very, very close to knocking the Warriors out of the playoffs - if they get KD back, along with the roster changes they have made, Adam's growth, another year in Donovan's system, they will be a very formidable foe for years to come. Cavs beat us already and they will likely be back. Portland is on the rise...

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