Dwyane Wade: The Road to Respectability

[Heat3]

What world are you living in where this team becomes a championship contender? The Bosh situation has pretty much sealed that.

We only have a shot at becoming something close to a contender if Winslow and Richardson explode. Wade's contract won't affect a damn thing when borderline starters are making 15 million minimum

I live in a world where we don't lockup an aging veteran for more than one year thus effectively ending our 2017 FA chances.
I have zero expectations of Bosh ever playing again. I'm expecting his contract to be off the books in time for that.

Yeah, well Bosh has different ideas and that contract's not going anywhere.

It's always about next year, and the next random FA chase.

That aging veteran got us to game 7 of the conference semis without a front court. Another team might appreciate that.

He didnt do that on his own. His efforts got us to game 4. Goran was the reason we won game 6. Neither showed up for game 7.

[RexBoyWonder]

It's very simple :

Give Wade everything we can this year, trade Mcbob, whatever. Give him the absolute max possible we can THIS year. WE cant' add good free agents anyway.

But DON'T compromise next years cap space. Don't do it. He needs to understand he needs to work with us next year when we're targeting young stars, he can't be in "me first" mindset next year.

This year - no problem. Get your cash.

[MFlash321]

Pat Riley is out here trying to win another one and ride off into the sunset while Wade is overseas on vacation partying with the guy that Miami is trying to beat and dethrone? C'mon, man. Enough with this 'loyalty' and 'disrespect' stuff.

Maybe it's Riley giving Wade a taste of his own medicine and Wade didn't give anyone a clue about LeBron leaving Miami when he sure as hell knew LeBron was on his way out.

If Miami strikes out on KD, the remaining money will go to DW and we'll be back in this same boat next year. Calm down, everyone.

[DWadeno3]

It's very simple :

Give Wade everything we can this year, trade Mcbob, whatever. Give him the absolute max possible we can THIS year. WE cant' add good free agents anyway.

But DON'T compromise next years cap space. Don't do it. He needs to understand he needs to work with us next year when we're targeting young stars, he can't be in "me first" mindset next year.

This year - no problem. Get your cash.

I fully agree with this but I don't think Wade will.

[SCHeat]

3 years 54 million. 18 per, no raises

I think both sides would take this and it's not much worse than the 3/45 we should have done last year

Might take a hit on that last year but that's the cost of doing business

[SCHeat]

He'll be back. People need to relax.

Of course he will be. Only debate is the terms

[Tony15]

It's very simple :

Give Wade everything we can this year, trade Mcbob, whatever. Give him the absolute max possible we can THIS year. WE cant' add good free agents anyway.

But DON'T compromise next years cap space. Don't do it. He needs to understand he needs to work with us next year when we're targeting young stars, he can't be in "me first" mindset next year.

This year - no problem. Get your cash.

I fully agree with this but I don't think Wade will.

Then that's just too bad for him here then. I love Wade as much as the next guy, and he deserves to get paid but Miami can't afford to do what the Lakers did w/ Kobe. Not sure how many years it's been since Kobe signed that "lifetime achievement" deal, but that franchise has been in the dumps ever since. Fortunately for us, KD will make his decision today and Wade hasn't gotten anywhere with his talking with other teams. Once it's made, assuming it's not here, we'll do the right thing and pay the dude his $20 mill.


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[contract]

... he can't be in "me first" mindset next year.

Only this team and its fans would feel entitled to a "team first" attitude from a guy who isn't on the team.

[contract]

Pat Riley is out here trying to win another one and ride off into the sunset while Wade is overseas on vacation partying with the guy that Miami is trying to beat and dethrone? C'mon, man. Enough with this 'loyalty' and 'disrespect' stuff.

Is Pat working hard? That's awesome!

Wade was on the court busting his ass trying to win a championship with Michael Beasley as his sidekick while Pat Riley was saying "screw winning, I'm hoarding cap space to sign Lebron" for 2 years in his prime.

If Pat Riley worked for Pat Riley, he would've traded his own ass away.

[Hallstar]

It's very simple :

Give Wade everything we can this year, trade Mcbob, whatever. Give him the absolute max possible we can THIS year. WE cant' add good free agents anyway.

But DON'T compromise next years cap space. Don't do it. He needs to understand he needs to work with us next year when we're targeting young stars, he can't be in "me first" mindset next year.

This year - no problem. Get your cash.

I fully agree with this but I don't think Wade will.

Then that's just too bad for him here then. I love Wade as much as the next guy, and he deserves to get paid but Miami can't afford to do what the Lakers did w/ Kobe. Not sure how many years it's been since Kobe signed that "lifetime achievement" deal, but that franchise has been in the dumps ever since. Fortunately for us, KD will make his decision today and Wade hasn't gotten anywhere with his talking with other teams. Once it's made, assuming it's not here, we'll do the right thing and pay the dude his $20 mill.


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That franchise was already in the dumps when they signed Kobe, they had nothing but young players. We on the other hand already have tons of vets signed to LONG money. There is ZERO downside to Wade getting his money.

How do you guys know Wade hasn't gotten anywhere? Are we waiting for the Wade is heading to Milwaukee headline to believe another team wants an allstar that just put up 20/5/5

EVERYBODY else can get their money, but our ONLY allstar is who will kill our oh so precious 2017 cap, or is it 2018? Maybe we're really on the 2020 plan.

It wouldn't be so bloody ridiculous if it wouldn't be him shouldering all the responsibility for whatever happens next season regardless of salary. He's aging, past his prime, blah blah blah, but when games gets tight, we all know who the fans, players and coaches will be looking to

[contract]

Fortunately for us, KD will make his decision today and Wade hasn't gotten anywhere with his talking with other teams. Once it's made, assuming it's not here, we'll do the right thing and pay the dude his $20 mill.

What the hell, lets try this one more time.

1. Dwyane Wade is not a charity case.

2. He's not the team mascot.

3. Dwyane Wade is the best player on this team, and still one of the top handful of players at his position in the entire NBA.

4. We're not doing him a favor by actually you know ... paying him for his services.

5. The "lifetime achievement" money that you think is being discussed is actually called "a commensurate salary" for his performance on the court.

Take a look around the league at the going rate for top players. Top players on their own teams if you don't consider him a top player in the NBA anymore. Or hell, just take a look around our own team. $20 mil a year is not an act of generosity on the part of the Heat towards Wade. It's the going rate.

And the fact that Wade had to sit around and wait to see what Whiteside and Durant were going to do before finding out whether or not the Heat had any intentions of paying him was yet one more slap in the face.

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[PizzaLord305]

If we do pay wade 20+ mill a year this off season, i think he should really work on that 3 ball and attempt at least 3 of em a game next year. Homie should step up if he gets that money.

[contract]

EVERYBODY else can get their money, but our ONLY allstar is who will kill our oh so precious 2017 cap, or is it 2018? Maybe we're really on the 2020 plan.

You don't understand, we're in a hole, and someone is to blame. Fans can blame Wade for wanting to get paid, or they can face the ugly reality that our genius "Don" Don f'ed up our cap to the point of resembling a Bernie Madoff scheme.

Most everyone here is too young to get the reference but just the same ...

[contract]

If we do pay wade 20+ mill a year this off season, i think he should really work on that 3 ball and attempt at least 3 of em a game next year. Homie should step up if he gets that money.

Yeah, homie should, because up until now he's been a scrub.

[Hallstar]

If we do pay wade 20+ mill a year this off season, i think he should really work on that 3 ball and attempt at least 3 of em a game next year. Homie should step up if he gets that money.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6637/kent-bazemore

Just got 18 million

I think Wade's done enough

[Shewasfly]

I live in a world where we don't lockup an aging veteran for more than one year thus effectively ending our 2017 FA chances.
I have zero expectations of Bosh ever playing again. I'm expecting his contract to be off the books in time for that.

Yeah, well Bosh has different ideas and that contract's not going anywhere.

It's always about next year, and the next random FA chase.

That aging veteran got us to game 7 of the conference semis without a front court. Another team might appreciate that.

He didnt do that on his own. His efforts got us to game 4. Goran was the reason we won game 6. Neither showed up for game 7.

Well, hopefully you can find a new team to be a fan of when that scrub who only contributed to one win in the playoffs gets paid.

Its funny because I'm called a Wade fanatic for wanting to pay to keep our best player, but at the end of the day I won't lose any sleep over what Wade gets paid. If he gets paid less than he's worth again, I'll think its unfair and that our org did will look very dirty for it, but I won't lose sleep. You on the other hand, seem like you will cry real tears if Wade gets his money. So to you, I suggest start looking around the association to find some place you'd rather hitch your wagon to, since Wade getting his money is an affront to everything you personally stand for.

[Shewasfly]

I fully agree with this but I don't think Wade will.

Then that's just too bad for him here then. I love Wade as much as the next guy, and he deserves to get paid but Miami can't afford to do what the Lakers did w/ Kobe. Not sure how many years it's been since Kobe signed that "lifetime achievement" deal, but that franchise has been in the dumps ever since. Fortunately for us, KD will make his decision today and Wade hasn't gotten anywhere with his talking with other teams. Once it's made, assuming it's not here, we'll do the right thing and pay the dude his $20 mill.


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That franchise was already in the dumps when they signed Kobe, they had nothing but young players. We on the other hand already have tons of vets signed to LONG money. There is ZERO downside to Wade getting his money.

How do you guys know Wade hasn't gotten anywhere? Are we waiting for the Wade is heading to Milwaukee headline to believe another team wants an allstar that just put up 20/5/5

EVERYBODY else can get their money, but our ONLY allstar is who will kill our oh so precious 2017 cap, or is it 2018? Maybe we're really on the 2020 plan.

It wouldn't be so bloody ridiculous if it wouldn't be him shouldering all the responsibility for whatever happens next season regardless of salary. He's aging, past his prime, blah blah blah, but when games gets tight, we all know who the fans, players and coaches will be looking to

Only to be have the role he played in winning those tight games drastically minimized so they can feel morally justified in again paying him less than he's worth. A bunch of garbage "Heat" fans on this board, masquerading their personal distaste for Wade as being team oriented.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

For those who are certain our organization and Wade are completely out of sync, there's a huge money gap, and he had no knowledge of our plans to pursue KD before locking him up... why didn't Wade actually pursue a deal with another team at the start then when the money was available? Wouldn't that have been the sound thing to do?

Or... do you think its possible that despite what "souces" claim, Wade taking meetings now is little more than noise from his agent to insure we keep our offer high after we strike out on KD, and for the most part Riley and him are more on the same page than is assumed?

Because that's basically what he said last year after the "drama" ended.

[PizzaLord305]

If we do pay wade 20+ mill a year this off season, i think he should really work on that 3 ball and attempt at least 3 of em a game next year. Homie should step up if he gets that money.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6637/kent-bazemore

Just got 18 million

I think Wade's done enough

I feel you and contract. The dude deserves respect and as a fan I love that guy and what he's done for our fav team but it's not like these youngsters getting paid are in their 30's and have histories of serious injury. Expecting him to commit to improving an area of his game isn't too much to ask man he's a pro athlete. he stepped the hell up in the playoffs and part of that success was embracing the deep ball a bit. The trajectory on his ball and his 3pt fg percentage looked much better cause he was shooting them with confidence. Why not let that confidence in his ability to attempt threes roll over into the next season? It'll set a good example for Winslow and Jrich and could strategically open things up for the team. I think he should really consider it, especially if he gets the money he wants.

[Shewasfly]

For those who are certain our organization and Wade are completely out of sync, there's a huge money gap, and he had no knowledge of our plans to pursue KD before locking him up... why didn't Wade actually pursue a deal with another team at the start then when the money was available? Wouldn't that have been the sound thing to do?

Or... do you think its possible that despite what "souces" claim, Wade taking meetings now is little more than noise from his agent to insure we keep our offer high after we strike out on KD, and for the most part Riley and him are more on the same page than is assumed?

Because that's basically what he said last year after the "drama" ended.

A lot of this is less about the negotiations themselves and more about the trash that comes out of some posters mouths when it comes to Wade during contract negotiations every year. I think they are far more disrespectful to Wade than the organization probably is behind the scenes.