Dwyane Wade: The Road to Respectability

[Shewasfly]

Wade knew we were going after Durant, anyone that thinks otherwise apparently didn't have their eyes and ears open this last month.

He knew they were going after Durant, I don't think he knew he wasn't even going to get a decent preliminary offer from his team until after that situation was decided. I certainly didn't think that would be the case either.

How could they make him an offer before knowing what KD was going to do?

The same way we could for Whiteside.

[TroubleS0me]

when i was in Miami...

[Tony15]

Only to be have the role he played in winning those tight games drastically minimized so they can feel morally justified in again paying him less than he's worth. A bunch of garbage "Heat" fans on this board, masquerading their personal distaste for Wade as being team oriented.

Or....there are Heat fans here who want the best for the organization, which doesn't involve paying Wade absurd $$ over a big # of years, especially if it affects the pursuit of a player that would this team better. Nobody from what I read here has a personal distaste for Wade, so get off the high horse and don't act as if you're the gold standard for Heat fandom. Trust me, Wade doesn't care what you or I think. He's gonna get his $$ here, or elsewhere especially now that KD has more or less bent the league over over his knee, good health assuming.

The "absurd money" is his market value, that's what some don't seem to get.

And I don't get the big years either, who is saying lock up Wade 'til 40? Not even Wade

Alright, "absurd" was extreme wording on my part, but if I had to guess Wade wants a 3-year, $60 million deal at least. I honestly think that's fair in todays market, but I understand why the Heat aren't/weren't quick to get to that point.

[Mos_Heat]

really hoping we dont have to move bob to satisfy wade but i fear we will. we need bob lol

For what? 5 seed in the East?

we will be lucky to make the playoffs next year, bob would be getting well over 15mil per year if he was a free agent this summer

BS. 8-9 mil max. Dudley got 10.

[Heat_Fan_87]

For what? 5 seed in the East?

we will be lucky to make the playoffs next year, bob would be getting well over 15mil per year if he was a free agent this summer

BS. 8-9 mil max. Dudley got 10.

LMAO. he gets a lot more than 8-9mil. come on.

[Hallstar]

Wade knew we were going after Durant, anyone that thinks otherwise apparently didn't have their eyes and ears open this last month.

He knew they were going after Durant, I don't think he knew he wasn't even going to get a decent preliminary offer from his team until after that situation was decided. I certainly didn't think that would be the case either.

How could they make him an offer before knowing what KD was going to do? The 10mil offer is bogus and it's up to Wade now as to how much money he wants VS how much help he wants, which has always been the case. The only thing Miami has asked of him is the flexibility offered with the one year deals which makes sense from the team standpoint with the cap going up again next year.

Sorry, that's a false option, here is no "help" coming.

Taking 15 million instead of 25 gets you Dellavadova.

Pay the man

[Tony15]

Only to be have the role he played in winning those tight games drastically minimized so they can feel morally justified in again paying him less than he's worth. A bunch of garbage "Heat" fans on this board, masquerading their personal distaste for Wade as being team oriented.

Or....there are Heat fans here who want the best for the organization, which doesn't involve paying Wade absurd $$ over a big # of years, especially if it affects the pursuit of a player that would this team better. Nobody from what I read here has a personal distaste for Wade, so get off the high horse and don't act as if you're the gold standard for Heat fandom. Trust me, Wade doesn't care what you or I think. He's gonna get his $$ here, or elsewhere especially now that KD has more or less bent the league over over his knee, good health assuming.

I'm going to show you exactly how I know you're not thinking about this situation and just reflexively saying to not pay Wade his money. Here we go

What is big # of years to you?

In Wade's case, 3-years and he said he wouldn't take any less than $20 million per year, which in todays market, is fair game. My wording was extreme, I'll admit that but where you're lost in the entire conversation, is that they had meeting scheduled with KD which becomes completely pointless if Wade's offered that deal before they can either a) trade Dragic/McBob, b) get in the room with KD, or c) both. Not difficult to understand.

[batterybro42]

Give him a one year max and be done with it

[Mos_Heat]

LMAO. he gets a lot more than 8-9mil. come on.

No way.

[islandHEAT]

He knew they were going after Durant, I don't think he knew he wasn't even going to get a decent preliminary offer from his team until after that situation was decided. I certainly didn't think that would be the case either.

How could they make him an offer before knowing what KD was going to do? The 10mil offer is bogus and it's up to Wade now as to how much money he wants VS how much help he wants, which has always been the case. The only thing Miami has asked of him is the flexibility offered with the one year deals which makes sense from the team standpoint with the cap going up again next year.

Sorry, that's a false option, here is no "help" coming.

Taking 15 million instead of 25 gets you Dellavadova.

Pay the man

Then he gets paid, it's his call regardless.

[islandHEAT]

He knew they were going after Durant, I don't think he knew he wasn't even going to get a decent preliminary offer from his team until after that situation was decided. I certainly didn't think that would be the case either.

How could they make him an offer before knowing what KD was going to do?

The same way we could for Whiteside.

Miami made the right decision in locking up Whiteside first, it's a value contract and he woul d have be gone if we didn't.

[krikor]

what frightens me wade put a request of sign & trade to cleveland. damn sure lebron is recruiting him now.

[Shewasfly]

Or....there are Heat fans here who want the best for the organization, which doesn't involve paying Wade absurd $$ over a big # of years, especially if it affects the pursuit of a player that would this team better. Nobody from what I read here has a personal distaste for Wade, so get off the high horse and don't act as if you're the gold standard for Heat fandom. Trust me, Wade doesn't care what you or I think. He's gonna get his $$ here, or elsewhere especially now that KD has more or less bent the league over over his knee, good health assuming.

I'm going to show you exactly how I know you're not thinking about this situation and just reflexively saying to not pay Wade his money. Here we go

What is big # of years to you?

In Wade's case, 3-years and he said he wouldn't take any less than $20 million per year, which in todays market, is fair game. My wording was extreme, I'll admit that but where you're lost in the entire conversation, is that they had meeting scheduled with KD which becomes completely pointless if Wade's offered that deal before they can either a) trade Dragic/McBob, b) get in the room with KD, or c) both. Not difficult to understand.

Nothing can get signed until the 7th, so what you're saying isn't true in the slighest. Do you know why there were reports that Whiteside was willing to "kickback" some of his salary if Riley got Durant? Its because he was offered a contract that actually would prevent us from getting Durant, before we knew we were getting Durant. That's respect. Wade wasn't even offered any decent contract, after years of being very cooperative to the point of looking like an idiot, with this team.

Riley could have offered him the contract he supposedly intended to offer him no matter what, and still went after KD. because after all, the reported plan was to bring Wade back, just that if KD agreed we'd move Dragic, McRoberts to clear the necessary room. So why did Wade's offer have to come after Durant, especially when Whiteside's didn't?

[Tony15]

Forgot about the July 7th part, but that still doesn't really change my point overall. Say July 7th hits, and KD hasn't decided yet.....with Wade signed, then the chances of KD coming here fall from 1-2% to zilch. Can't be helped sometimes, it's business. As for Hassan, in Miami's defense he wanted to know where his comes from at the start. That put a lot of pressure on the Heat. They did what they had to do.

[Kingsway_fan]

everyone getting paid ... except wade! .. LOL ....

[vanhowell]

what frightens me wade put a request of sign & trade to cleveland. damn sure lebron is recruiting him now.

Exactly! What if he told the Bucks or Denver that he wants a sign and trade to Cavs.

[Enso]

Bob going to have a breakout year if we don't trade him

[Heat3]

I'm going to show you exactly how I know you're not thinking about this situation and just reflexively saying to not pay Wade his money. Here we go

What is big # of years to you?

In Wade's case, 3-years and he said he wouldn't take any less than $20 million per year, which in todays market, is fair game. My wording was extreme, I'll admit that but where you're lost in the entire conversation, is that they had meeting scheduled with KD which becomes completely pointless if Wade's offered that deal before they can either a) trade Dragic/McBob, b) get in the room with KD, or c) both. Not difficult to understand.

Nothing can get signed until the 7th, so what you're saying isn't true in the slighest. Do you know why there were reports that Whiteside was willing to "kickback" some of his salary if Riley got Durant? Its because he was offered a contract that actually would prevent us from getting Durant, before we knew we were getting Durant. That's respect. Wade wasn't even offered any decent contract, after years of being very cooperative to the point of looking like an idiot, with this team.

Riley could have offered him the contract he supposedly intended to offer him no matter what, and still went after KD. because after all, the reported plan was to bring Wade back, just that if KD agreed we'd move Dragic, McRoberts to clear the necessary room. So why did Wade's offer have to come after Durant, especially when Whiteside's didn't?

uh cause there were multiple teams lining up to offer Whiteside max on day one. supply and demand. there is demand for whiteside. i've yet to hear about any concrete offers for wade from other treams (just "talks").

[Chalm Down]

Bob going to have a breakout year if we don't trade him

Pls

[Shewasfly]

In Wade's case, 3-years and he said he wouldn't take any less than $20 million per year, which in todays market, is fair game. My wording was extreme, I'll admit that but where you're lost in the entire conversation, is that they had meeting scheduled with KD which becomes completely pointless if Wade's offered that deal before they can either a) trade Dragic/McBob, b) get in the room with KD, or c) both. Not difficult to understand.

Nothing can get signed until the 7th, so what you're saying isn't true in the slighest. Do you know why there were reports that Whiteside was willing to "kickback" some of his salary if Riley got Durant? Its because he was offered a contract that actually would prevent us from getting Durant, before we knew we were getting Durant. That's respect. Wade wasn't even offered any decent contract, after years of being very cooperative to the point of looking like an idiot, with this team.

Riley could have offered him the contract he supposedly intended to offer him no matter what, and still went after KD. because after all, the reported plan was to bring Wade back, just that if KD agreed we'd move Dragic, McRoberts to clear the necessary room. So why did Wade's offer have to come after Durant, especially when Whiteside's didn't?

uh cause there were multiple teams lining up to offer Whiteside max on day one. supply and demand. there is demand for whiteside. i've yet to hear about any concrete offers for wade from other treams (just "talks").

Because most teams don't actually think we'll be dumb enough (like some fans are) to let Wade walk so we don't have to pay him 25m for 3 years but instead play scrub 1 and scrub 2 10m and 15m for 4 years. If the differences become irreconcilable we shall see if they become more than talks. At most Wade might take less to go to a team where the GM has actually built a sustainable competitor with a real core, and not kept assets continuously on one year deals to where it all falls apart in one off season.