Durant II - Durant to GSW

Tim_Hardawayy · Post #1901 » by **Tim_Hardawayy** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:17 am

I'm enjoying that you all are here to stand up for the Heat now after the fact. But damn, the hypocrisy is hilarious to me. Just admit you hated that team and you hate this one more, instead of pretending there is some line that ONLY the Warriors crossed :lol:

Concept Coop · Post #1902 » by **Concept Coop** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:19 am

LeonGenesis wrote:There is no guarantee that Warriors win the title next year. Keep in mind that that they're losing Bogut and Barnes who are both key players to their winning last year. Do they have any money left to retain the bench guys? Going all in on just Durant without any help is not the greatest road to the title.

KD is a top 5 player and a perfect fit. Bogut and Barnes are both very easily replaceable.

baller16 · Post #1903 » by **baller16** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:20 am

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Michael Lucky · Post #1904 » by **Michael Lucky** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:21 am

LeonGenesis wrote:There is no guarantee that Warriors win the title next year. Keep in mind that that they're losing Bogut and Barnes who are both key players to their winning last year. Do they have any money left to retain the bench guys? Going all in on just Durant without any help is not the greatest road to the title.

They are definitely in no way key players. GS played much better with Draymond at the 5 than with Bogut. Barnes was sporting a PER of 12 all year and SK could not wait to get him off the court to bring in Iggy.

tbdog · Post #1905 » by **tbdog** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:22 am

For the sake of the other 29 teams fans shout for, lets hope Warriors have a disaster season and get knocked out its glorious fashion.

ClubLakers KB8 · Post #1906 » by **ClubLakers KB8** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:22 am

The Thunder better get the 8 seed...

mitrandil20 · Post #1907 » by **mitrandil20** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:23 am

I tried to justify this move from Durant's perspective in many ways, but everytime I ended up thinking that this move adds up to LeBron's legacy: yes, he left Cleveland with a sh*t-show; but he delivered. Yes, he went back, like it was due to this 21st-century drama atmosphere; but he delivered, he fulfilled his duties. He made the dream come true in the most dramatic spectacular ending possible.

I can't see Durant doing the same. No way. He tried to do his moves below the spotlight as much as possible, yet he produced one of the most emotionally-packed shifting-krap of all time.

It feels like emotional-intelligently wrong from many sides...

OkcSinceSGA · Post #1908 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:23 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:I'm enjoying that you all are here to stand up for the Heat now after the fact. But damn, the hypocrisy is hilarious to me. Just admit you hated that team and you hate this one more, instead of pretending there is some line that ONLY the Warriors crossed

I think that's what the problem is. People hated the Heat and it was unheard of. But this took it to another level, which I'm sure nobody thought they would see in their lifetime. This would be like prime Shaq joining Jordan's Bulls. It's just insane that the 2nd or 3rd best player in his prime would join a team he just battled to 7 in the playoffs and choked against. A team that was already becoming a dynasty WITHOUT him.

People like to point at the Celtics, but none of those guys were at their peak anymore.

Tai · Post #1909 » by **Tai** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:25 am

gustofwind wrote:
Tai wrote:
gustofwind wrote:

I hear your position, but respectfully disagree. GS know full well the consequences of Durant leaving. Their hands are just as bloody as Durant's hands. They went after Durant hard, it's not as if they reluctantly embraced him. I think we all should be held accountable not just for being successful, but also helping to create a better and more ethical world. There is a way to be competitive yourself without destroying opportunities for others.

I'm legit very close to sigging this and being done with this, and considering who's in my sig now I think you understand that's not a compliment.

What do you mean the Warriors' hands are "bloody"? Cause they wanted Durant? Cause god forbid they wanted a highly touted FA, if not THE highly touted FA this off-season. Why wouldn't the Warriors go hard for Durant? Why would they "reluctantly embrace" Durant? At the end of the day, Durant was a FREE agent who was FREE to go to whatever team would take him. It'd be one thing if he took a paycut to join the Warriors, but Durant will be paid around $27m/yr, which is why they had to let Barnes go and then trade Bogut. Maybe a small sacrifice at the end of the day to get another superstar, but it is something. How does this mean ethics were broken?

Maybe you misunderstood floopymoose's point that the Durant and Warriors wanting to be being together was mutual. If Durant wanted to go for the Warriors over the Thunder, then good for the Warriors, boo hoo for the Thunder. Yea, an opportunity to continue to compete was taken away from them, but that's life in the NBA. Happened to Cleveland the 1st time with Lebron, so be it. I can't re-call who said this to you, but I agree with him: I don't know if you would have reacted like this if Durant chose Boston, and even if you did, you'd still be dead wrong. Warriors have NOTHING to feel sorry for. NOTHING. I'm not saying you have to like it, but that doesn't make the Warriors malicious or unethical.

I believe we should be respectful to each other when we engage in conversation. I don't feel this is a respectful post. There is a way to voice disagreement with others without trying to demean them.

You're position is a perfectly fine one, but I disagree. I believe that Durant signing with GSW is bad for the league. Some disagree.

As for your questions, I've written enough about this topic and have very little else to add.

cheers and have a good day

It's one thing for you to say the Warriors getting Durant is bad for the league. But that's a far departure from calling them "unethical", and with that the implication of how you think the NBA works that i'm not a fan of. I can only imagine you had similar feelings about Lebron to the Heat, which admittedly required more parts art work though ultimately I don't feel that was unethical either, but I guess this premise of "unethical" is where my demeaning tone came from and for that I apologize.

Still, part of the reason I quoted the post I did was because looking through your posts, I found what I felt most reflected how you truly feel. I dunno how you back out of "be competitive yourself without destroying opportunities for others" into a different point and the implications that come with it.

baldur · Post #1910 » by **baldur** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:25 am

Okc is to blame. If you have westbrook and durant, you have had to manage add a 3rd star or above average cast to get a championship. Durant has persevered too long. No need to criticize durant for this decision.

mitrandil20 · Post #1911 » by **mitrandil20** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:26 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:I'm enjoying that you all are here to stand up for the Heat now after the fact. But damn, the hypocrisy is hilarious to me. Just admit you hated that team and you hate this one more, instead of pretending there is some line that ONLY the Warriors crossed

I don't think the majority is speaking against the Warriors as an organization, but against the move itself, which came from a superstar in delicate circumstances.

Statlanta · Post #1912 » by **Statlanta** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:26 am

LeMasta wrote:All in all, I love how the NBA has a little storyline for itself.
The whole LeBron thing betraying his team, becoming the villain in the league to join Miami.
KD who was the #2 player in the league rising up to become the hero of the league to match up against LeBron.
Then eventually the rise of GSW, who's presence began overshadowing LeBron, ultimately becoming the villain, winning the championship and taking reign over the league.
Then we have LeBron re-joining the Cavs to become the hero and saviour of Cleveland, eventually defeating GSW in a heroic comeback and became known as the new hero of the league.
And now KD, has become a villain, only to further strengthen the power of the Warriors and once again reclaim the throne.

Will KD finally win a ring with his new team? Will LeBron rise up to the occasion again? Or will an underdog step up in the matter?
Find out next time on... NBA TV...

Reads like a DragonBall Z narration, :lol:

OkcSinceSGA · Post #1913 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:28 am

I'm not even taking issue up with GS. He wanted to go there. We're they supposed to turn him away because it looks bad? They did nothing wrong. It's KD that I can't get behind in this situation.

Heat3 · Post #1914 » by **Heat3** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:31 am

I'm excited to see this team actually....

Hindenburg · Post #1915 » by **Hindenburg** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:33 am

technically Durant has 3 days to change his mind. Imagine him pulling a Deandre to sabotage Warriors.

would be the biggest troll job of all time. Entirely possible

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Hello Brooklyn · Post #1916 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:34 am

baller16 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Everyone is being an idiot. This is the EXACT same thing Lebron did in 2010.

Funny how if the Warriors had traded or drafted Durant this would be ok with everyone. Who cares if they sign him as a FA.

WTF are you saying? I know your a Warriors homer but it's not the same. Durant is joining a 73-9 team that has a 2 time MVP superstar and 2 elite all-stars. They are a well established team that was 1 win away from wining another ring this year. He wants to leave his championship contending team that has another top 5 player, to a team that he almost beat and took to 7 games in the WCF?? Durant is being a sore loser and taking a shortcut to winning a ring.

A Warriors homer?

I'm not even a Warriors fan.

Lebron teamed up with the 2nd best player in the NBA and another top 10 player. Oh so different!

Please cut the BS. Teaming up with other superstars is nothing new. Who cares if they were already on the team before e came.

fa2011 · Post #1917 » by **fa2011** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:36 am

Hello Brooklyn · Post #1918 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:37 am

2Irving2 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Everyone is being an idiot. This is the EXACT same thing Lebron did in 2010.

Funny how if the Warriors had traded or drafted Durant this would be ok with everyone. Who cares if they sign him as a FA.

Durant can now help the Warriors be the greatest team of all time. Compete for 4-5 titles. If the Warriors end up doing something ridiculous like winning 5 straight chips wouldn't it be worth it?

Of course it would.

It's not about the Warriors trying to add a piece or a great player to their team. This is on Durant.

This is a superstar player choosing to ride the coattails of a great team to chase a ring. A SUPERSTAR player. One of the greatest scorers of all time, a top three player in the league right now, two years removed of an MVP season in his prime choosing to join a team that's made two straight finals appearances, a year removed from a championship, with their nucleus all intact and in their prime. Doesn't want to compete and beat them, but would rather join them and have the easy road to a ring.

This is actually the definition of a bitch move.

The Warriors didn't even win the championship this year.

Durant is going to be the 2nd best player on this team. He is not "riding their coattails." He is hoping to LEAD this team back to a championship.

Durant clearly wants to form an all time great team. Maybe finally breaking through and winning one for OKC wasn't enough. Maybe he wants to create an all time great team.

That's more ambitious in my eyes.. You guys can judge him for it, but at the end of the day hes choosing the situation that will be best for him as a basketball player.

TreasureCoast · Post #1919 » by **TreasureCoast** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:38 am

baldur wrote:Okc is to blame. If you have westbrook and durant, you have had to manage add a 3rd star or above average cast to get a championship. Durant has persevered too long. No need to criticize durant for this decision.

They just did, they got OladipGod....

Hello Brooklyn · Post #1920 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Tue Jul 5, 2016 12:39 am

fahqu2011 wrote:
2Irving2 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Everyone is being an idiot. This is the EXACT same thing Lebron did in 2010.

Funny how if the Warriors had traded or drafted Durant this would be ok with everyone. Who cares if they sign him as a FA.

Durant can now help the Warriors be the greatest team of all time. Compete for 4-5 titles. If the Warriors end up doing something ridiculous like winning 5 straight chips wouldn't it be worth it?

Of course it would.

It's not about the Warriors trying to add a piece or a great player to their team. This is on Durant.

This is a superstar player choosing to ride the coattails of a great team to chase a ring. A SUPERSTAR player. One of the greatest scorers of all time, a top three player in the league right now, two years removed of an MVP season in his prime choosing to join a team that's made two straight finals appearances, a year removed from a championship, with their nucleus all intact and in their prime. Doesn't want to compete and beat them, but would rather join them and have the easy road to a ring.

This is actually the definition of a bitch move.

Pretty much agree with all of your post. And Lebron got roasted, too. I fail to see the OP's point ...' Similarly, people criticized James till he won with his own team recently. Had he not won another, he'd always have that cloud hanging over his head. People act like Durant was in some go nowhere organization. He simply took the easiest road to win a title. A record setting regular season team at that.

Lebron didn't take the easy road to winning the title by teaming up with Wade/Bosh?

Pretty sure he had a 66 win team in Cleveland that was getting to the ECF and faltering in the closing moments of Game 6s and 7s.