What now?

[BigTrade92]

If you can get a Top 5 player in the league for a Brooklyn pick as the center piece, you do it.

Do you guys not remember that we traded two old, on their last legs players for 4, count them, 4 Brooklyn picks?

But some of you think trading one for Russell Westbrook ISN'T worth it? Come on....You do that trade in your sleep, contract or no contract.

You either get these picks to trade them for a Superstar or you take the long rebuild through the draft. This team is currently treadmilling. Getting Westbrook is essentially the same as getting Durant. You do it, no questions asked.

[BannersOnly]

The Danny fanboys that want to pump his fn tire because he has Bradley, Crowder and IT by the balls with cheap contracts need to zip it when they preach patience because those cheap deals don't mean sh*t if we ain't legit contenders with legit STUDS.......which we definitely aren't and don't have. It's not hating.......its the fn truth.

If we are going to keep these guys than we need to contend legitemately asap before their deals are up up they either walk or get overpaid. Thus, we need to either trade their asses and rebuild via the draft or trade these Nets picks for Cousins. Danny gambled on free agency and got shat on his face. Bad gamble. Now we're cooked unless we make a big trade.

[Writebloc]

The Danny fanboys that want to pump his fn tire because he has Bradley, Crowder and IT by the balls with cheap contracts need to zip it when they preach patience because those cheap deals don't mean sh*t if we ain't legit contenders with legit STUDS.......which we definitely aren't and don't have. It's not hating.......its the fn truth.

If we are going to keep these guys than we need to contend legitemately asap before their deals are up up they either walk or get overpaid. Thus, we need to either trade their asses and rebuild via the draft or trade these Nets picks for Cousins. Danny gambled on free agency and got shat on his face. Bad gamble. Now we're cooked unless we make a big trade.

Such a great parody account.

[Bleeding Green]

I don't much care what they do as long as they don't sign anyone to a non-max deal for more than a year. There are no more max level FA left so I'd be happy with bringing back Amir on his option year and jerebko and the rest on one year deals. Use the rest of this year's capspace on one year (plus option) deald and build the best team possible. No reason this cant be a 2 seednext year while retaining future cap flexibility and developing jaylen brown.

Also calling Golden State every day trying to relieve their salary issue by trading for Curry on a salary dump deal would be fun. "Oh you want us to absorb Boguts contract so you can sign Durant? How about give us Curry instead."

But for real I think they could get Bogut (plus a random pick) for nothing and he'd be an upgrade over Amir potentially so hopefully they explore that option and don't let emotion get in the way of it all.

[Ed Pinkney]

I don't much care what they do as long as they don't sign anyone to a non-max deal for more than a year. There are no more max level FA left so I'd be happy with bringing back Amir on his option year and jerebko and the rest on one year deals. Use the rest of this year's capspace on one year (plus option) deald and build the best team possible. No reason this cant be a 2 seednext year while retaining future cap flexibility and developing jaylen brown.

Also calling Golden State every day trying to relieve their salary issue by trading for Curry on a salary dump deal would be fun. "Oh you want us to absorb Boguts contract so you can sign Durant? How about give us Curry instead."

But for real I think they could get Bogut (plus a random pick) for nothing and he'd be an upgrade over Amir potentially so hopefully they explore that option and don't let emotion get in the way of it all.

Not sure if it is done already but pretty sure a Bogut trade to Dallas has already been decided.

[Bar Fight]

No offense, but anyone saying "If Ainge does this or that, then I'm done" can head on out right now and don't let the door hit you on the way out. You lose all credibility with me as a fan when you say **** like that. If you wanna hop off the bandwagon then just do it now and save us all the time.

If this is directed at me, I never once said I would be done with the Celtics. **** all the way off with that ****. I said I would be done with Danny as a GM. I'm a Celtic fan for life, doesn't mean I have to approve of everything the front office does. Being a blind homer who defends the front office even through obvious mistakes doesn't make you any more of a fan than anyone else. It just makes you delusional.

And please **** off with that "you can head on out" ****. You aren't some authority figure among Celtics fans. If I wanna stick around and bitch about the moves Danny makes, I'm damn sure going to do that.

[BannersOnly]

I said Danny was about to take a sh*t on my face if Durant signed but unfortunately for Danny boy he is the one wiping Durant's nasty Buffalo Wild Wings fire sauce diarea sh*t off of his face. I feel bad for him.

Having said that, had he simply listened to some of us and tanked the 1st 2 years of this rebuild we would be in better shape for the long haul. Now we're forced to make major trades quick or we have IT, Crowder and Bradley walking or gettin overpaid on their next deal. Ainge is no Riley or West........its sad watching him fail so badly. I give him credit for trying though. Close but no cigar.

[tlee324]

Sigh, lol...we're back to this....

[dlamb8888888]

If they pick up the options of Amir and Jerebko and let Sullinger, Holland, and Zeller walk, the Celtics have 81,464,229 in estimated salary (numbers from basketball insiders.com). That includes signing Jaylen Brown. His cap hold is 3,952,500, but he'll likely sign for just north of this. That would leave roughly 10MM under the salary cap after Bentil and jackson. I hope Zizic, Nader, and Yabusele agree to play overseas this year. The roster would look something like:

STARTERS
Thomas
Bradley
Crowder
Horford
A. Johnson

BENCH
Smart
Rozier
Olynyk
Jerebko
J. Brown
Mickey
J. Young

MAINE
Bentil
Jackson

They could decide to (a) keep John Holland, (b) not stash one of Yabusele or Zizic, (c) re-sign Zeller or Sullinger (d) sign a FA, (e) make a trade or (f) some combination of those. I don't like option b because neither of those guys would likely contribute much this year, so why burn a year of their rookie contracts sitting on the bench or playing in Maine? I am not enthusiastic about a because it's John Holland. I hope we don't pay Sullinger or Zeller anything guaranteed beyond this year to preserve cap space heading into next summer, and I don't think either will settle for 1-year deals in this market. The same could likely be said for any other worthwhile FA still on the market. I'd love a big trade to land a superstar, but would be shocked if that happened. I am starting to come around on the idea of rolling with the guys listed above, and waiting for the trade deadline and next summer to try to make a more serious move. That team should win 50 games. We'd have max money available next year, and a likely top 3 pick in what's looking to be a better than decent draft. Meanwhile, it should be interesting seeing what we could have in Jaylen Brown, and watching the development of Smart, Rozier, and to a lesser degree Hunter and Mickey. I could probably be talked into getting behind a longterm signing of Ezeli too, although I'm not sure he'd sign for the money we have available.

[BigTrade92]

I said Danny was about to take a sh*t on my face if Durant signed but unfortunately for Danny boy he is the one wiping Durant's nasty Buffalo Wild Wings fire sauce diarea sh*t off of his face. I feel bad for him.

Having said that, had he simply listened to some of us and tanked the 1st 2 years of this rebuild we would be in better shape for the long haul. Now we're forced to make major trades quick or we have IT, Crowder and Bradley walking or gettin overpaid on their next deal. Ainge is no Riley or West........its sad watching him fail so badly. I give him credit for trying though. Close but no cigar.

Dude, give it a rest

We just finished year three of a rebuild. Two of those three years we made the playoffs, we just signed Al Horford, had the #3 pick in the draft, we'll have another top pick next season and the season after, and a Top 3 player in this league just visited this team, and pretty much chose to make the worst Free Agency decision of all time, and had us placed in second.

The sky isn't falling, we have multiple assets still at our disposal and a VERY bright future ahead.

Danny Ainge has done a hell of a job.

[dlamb8888888]

I said Danny was about to take a sh*t on my face if Durant signed but unfortunately for Danny boy he is the one wiping Durant's nasty Buffalo Wild Wings fire sauce diarea sh*t off of his face. I feel bad for him.

Having said that, had he simply listened to some of us and tanked the 1st 2 years of this rebuild we would be in better shape for the long haul. Now we're forced to make major trades quick or we have IT, Crowder and Bradley walking or gettin overpaid on their next deal. Ainge is no Riley or West........its sad watching him fail so badly. I give him credit for trying though. Close but no cigar.

What are you talking about? How would we be better off tanking? Why will IT, Bradley, and/or Crowder walk or get overpaid? Why should we make major quick trades? None of those three things make any sense. The tanking debate has likely been beaten to death on here, and I'm not going to get into that whole discussion. I'll only say that I didn't read any posts from you advocating for that all weekend prior to Durant signing with GS.

The Celtics have flexibility to pull off a major trade to acquire a superstar IF one becomes available over the next year or two. If not, they also have the ability to build through the draft while remaining relatively competitive enough to attract free agents. They have zero dead weight contracts, but rather most of their key contributors are signed to huge bargains for at least another two years. They have a highly respected head coach, and the passion of their fanbase is unparalleled. In case you don't remember (and I'm guessing you might not because you sound like you're 14 years old), Ainge inherited a roster with such superstars as Vin Baker, Tony Battie, Eric Williams, Bruno Sundov, Mark Blount, and Kedrick Brown. Following basketball for the ten years prior to the Ainge era was a total waste of time for any Celtics fan. The signings of Travis Knight, Mark Blount, the trading of Chuncey Billups for Kenny Anderson after 1/2 a season, the trading of Joe Johnson for Rodney Rogers and Tony Delk for a chance at being killed by NJ in the ECF (who btw were killed by LAL in the finals), and on and on. I can't stand the Ainge bashing from some people. Has he made some mistakes? Sure, but overall, he's got this franchise in a promising direction, and he has already brought a championship to Boston.

[Crossy2008]

If they pick up the options of Amir and Jerebko and let Sullinger, Holland, and Zeller walk, the Celtics have 81,464,229 in estimated salary (numbers from basketball insiders.com). That includes signing Jaylen Brown. His cap hold is 3,952,500, but he'll likely sign for just north of this. That would leave roughly 10MM under the salary cap after Bentil and jackson. I hope Zizic, Nader, and Yabusele agree to play overseas this year. The roster would look something like:

STARTERS
Thomas
Bradley
Crowder
Horford
A. Johnson

BENCH
Smart
Rozier
Olynyk
Jerebko
J. Brown
Mickey
J. Young

MAINE
Bentil
Jackson

They could decide to (a) keep John Holland, (b) not stash one of Yabusele or Zizic, (c) re-sign Zeller or Sullinger (d) sign a FA, (e) make a trade or (f) some combination of those. I don't like option b because neither of those guys would likely contribute much this year, so why burn a year of their rookie contracts sitting on the bench or playing in Maine? I am not enthusiastic about a because it's John Holland. I hope we don't pay Sullinger or Zeller anything guaranteed beyond this year to preserve cap space heading into next summer, and I don't think either will settle for 1-year deals in this market. The same could likely be said for any other worthwhile FA still on the market. I'd love a big trade to land a superstar, but would be shocked if that happened. I am starting to come around on the idea of rolling with the guys listed above, and waiting for the trade deadline and next summer to try to make a more serious move. That team should win 50 games. We'd have max money available next year, and a likely top 3 pick in what's looking to be a better than decent draft. Meanwhile, it should be interesting seeing what we could have in Jaylen Brown, and watching the development of Smart, Rozier, and to a lesser degree Hunter and Mickey. I could probably be talked into getting behind a longterm signing of Ezeli too, although I'm not sure he'd sign for the money we have available.

I like Horford and Amir starting with Olynyk making a case to be the starting Center.

I am really hoping that Smart/Rozier/Hunter/Mickey are all ready to make a big step forward.

I am OK with bringing Zeller back on a one year deal, but I would rather let Sully walk because he likely won't get to start, and he would probably be too ball dominant if he was asked to come off the bench.

If Thomas/Bradley/Crowder/Smart/Rozier/Hunter all come in with improved three point shooting, like it was a priority this offseason, then that would be a huge plus, but I am hoping our offense generates high percentage shots. Brown is a good addition for this as he wants to go in the paint.

Our bigs are Horford/Johnson/Olynyk/Mickey/Jerebko right now. If Mickey is improved then that is actually not a bad group.

Jackson and Bentil might be ready for some spot minutes too. We will learn more in a week or so. Might not be a bad idea to go into the season with some room under the cap to make any potential trade deadline deals easier.

[BannersOnly]

I said Danny was about to take a sh*t on my face if Durant signed but unfortunately for Danny boy he is the one wiping Durant's nasty Buffalo Wild Wings fire sauce diarea sh*t off of his face. I feel bad for him.

Having said that, had he simply listened to some of us and tanked the 1st 2 years of this rebuild we would be in better shape for the long haul. Now we're forced to make major trades quick or we have IT, Crowder and Bradley walking or gettin overpaid on their next deal. Ainge is no Riley or West........its sad watching him fail so badly. I give him credit for trying though. Close but no cigar.

Dude, give it a rest

We just finished year three of a rebuild. Two of those three years we made the playoffs, we just signed Al Horford, had the #3 pick in the draft, we'll have another top pick next season and the season after, and a Top 3 player in this league just visited this team, and pretty much chose to make the worst Free Agency decision of all time, and had us placed in second.

The sky isn't falling, we have multiple assets still at our disposal and a VERY bright future ahead.

Danny Ainge has done a hell of a job.

Ya okay........I hear the same song from Chris Mannix, Brian Scalabrine, Chris Forsberg and every other Danny jock sniffer. Change the fn disc.

My favorite is how everyone envies us. Envies WHAT? A roster full of ham and eggers? Al old man Horford who even Tommy "I hype everyone up" Heinson thinks is a fn glorified ham and egger? Give me a break.

Danny made his bed and now he has to find a STUD asap or we r screwed. Why sign a 30 year old forward with no STUD ride-a-long? Foolish GMing.

[GuyClinch]

Westbrook is great - but he would bolt to LA. He has pretty much said this. Not worth trading for..

[ajones9219]

I said Danny was about to take a sh*t on my face if Durant signed but unfortunately for Danny boy he is the one wiping Durant's nasty Buffalo Wild Wings fire sauce diarea sh*t off of his face. I feel bad for him.

Having said that, had he simply listened to some of us and tanked the 1st 2 years of this rebuild we would be in better shape for the long haul. Now we're forced to make major trades quick or we have IT, Crowder and Bradley walking or gettin overpaid on their next deal. Ainge is no Riley or West........its sad watching him fail so badly. I give him credit for trying though. Close but no cigar.

Dude, give it a rest

We just finished year three of a rebuild. Two of those three years we made the playoffs, we just signed Al Horford, had the #3 pick in the draft, we'll have another top pick next season and the season after, and a Top 3 player in this league just visited this team, and pretty much chose to make the worst Free Agency decision of all time, and had us placed in second.

The sky isn't falling, we have multiple assets still at our disposal and a VERY bright future ahead.

Danny Ainge has done a hell of a job.

Ya okay........I hear the same song from Chris Mannix, Brian Scalabrine, Chris Forsberg and every other Danny jock sniffer. Change the fn disc.

My favorite is how everyone envies us. Envies WHAT? A roster full of ham and eggers? Al old man Horford who even Tommy "I hype everyone up" Heinson thinks is a fn glorified ham and egger? Give me a break.

Danny made his bed and now he has to find a STUD asap or we r screwed. Why sign a 30 year old forward with no STUD ride-a-long? Foolish GMing.

Dude seriously enough. Everyone is tired of your negative spin on everything. We all get it, you wanted us to tank and we didn't. We get it, you don't like the Al Horford signing. We got a top 3 pick and a 4 time all star without surrendering assets. Al Horford has show exactly 0 signs of a steep decline. In fact, every analyst projects him to age very well so he will be playing at a high level for at the very least his entire 4 year deal. idk why you even waste your time rooting for the Celtics if you're just going to root for them to fail every year. I'd bet my entire life savings that we win a title before tanking teams like the 76'ers or Lakers. I understand that it's the normal way teams win, but most teams aren't gifted top draft picks from another team every season so the smart move is to put yourself in the best position to win every year, maintaining a culture of winning and a high chemistry locker room while Brooklyn funnels you draft talent.....I'm seriously tired of all the 'ham and egger' nonsense.

[Fencer reregistered]

Getting Westbrook is essentially the same as getting Durant.

Not if he's already decided where he wants to play next.

[Phase 3]

Cheer up guys, you're getting Westbrook IMO.

[ParticleMan]

Cheer up guys, you're getting Westbrook IMO.

Only if he signs an extension which seems unlikely since he wants to go to la.

[Phase 3]

Cheer up guys, you're getting Westbrook IMO.

Only if he signs an extension which seems unlikely since he wants to go to la.

Don't underestimate the pull of playing for a storied franchise like the Celtics. Get him in for one year and he would fall in love IMO.

[return2glory]

I wonder if the Celtics have any interest in Festus Ezeli?