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So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild?

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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#41 » by XtotheDeezy » Thu Jul 7, 2016 10:21 pm

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XtotheDeezy wrote:Do you think there would be enough fan backlash to force him to step down or get fired?


I'd be surprised


Surprised at there being that much backlash or surprised if he would step down/get fired irrespective of the backlash?
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#42 » by Mob Rules » Thu Jul 7, 2016 10:34 pm

I think he stays. If he didn't concede to Wade, one of the best players he ever had as a coach or GM, he won't back down to the challenge of proving he can manage this team.
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Re: Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#43 » by Hallstar » Fri Jul 8, 2016 10:21 am

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:pat aint going out like this. not losing lebron and wade to end his career. give him 2 years to get us back in contention.

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Heat_Fan_87 wrote:pat aint going out like this. not losing lebron and wade to end his career. give him 2 years to get us back in contention.

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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#45 » by Hoops23 » Sat Jul 9, 2016 4:25 am

I maybe in the minority with this, but if I'll choose one between Wade & Riley, the latter will be my choice.

Good luck to the Bulls. They better cross their fingers and hope Wade can play atleast 70 games per season and have a better chemistry with Butler & Rondo.
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#46 » by Flashpoint » Sat Jul 9, 2016 5:45 am

This is obviously his last year if he even sees it through. Just like his last coaching year it will end on an extreme low point. Sucks but everyone's legacy takes a hit after this offseason.
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#47 » by HIF » Sat Jul 9, 2016 10:31 am

Start of his rebuild is D Wiiliams (and that's not deron).
I remember when the Dolphins were perennial contenders

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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#48 » by dancing2thabeet » Sat Jul 9, 2016 10:43 am

Sign Westbrook next season, trade for PG13, win championship, retire.
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#49 » by Picklewagon » Sat Jul 9, 2016 10:55 am

I think Riley sticks around for a while. He has always looked long term in regards to the team and, despite his saaaaddddd letter, I think he's totally ok with wade leaving. He not only looked at the cap number for the next two years with wade but also what would happen afterwards. Wade would look for another contract and Riley didn't want to go through this again two years from now. Not saying he'd be looking for a 23 million dollar contract but he would look for something substantial and Riley is happy to avoid that situation with a 36 year old wade.

I think Riley realized this is a treadmill team with wade and had long term plans. If Riley wasn't interested in staying, I think he gives wade the big contract and retires when it expires. For good or bad, I think Riley is relieved it ended the way it did. He'll have cap room, young players getting ample playing time, a draft pick and he doesn't have to worry about wade free agency two years from now
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#50 » by HIF » Sat Jul 9, 2016 11:15 am

dancing2thabeet wrote:Sign Westbrook next season, trade for PG13, win championship, retire.


Without the lure of Wade?

He failed to interest Aldridge!

He failed to interest KD.

Why would Westbrook want to come to Miami?
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Re: Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#51 » by Hallstar » Sat Jul 9, 2016 11:40 am

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dancing2thabeet wrote:Sign Westbrook next season, trade for PG13, win championship, retire.


Without the lure of Wade?

He failed to interest Aldridge!

He failed to interest KD.

Why would Westbrook want to come to Miami?

Lol, Wade was supposed to recruit for us then find his own team.

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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#52 » by dancing2thabeet » Sat Jul 9, 2016 2:39 pm

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dancing2thabeet wrote:Sign Westbrook next season, trade for PG13, win championship, retire.


Without the lure of Wade?

He failed to interest Aldridge!

He failed to interest KD.

Why would Westbrook want to come to Miami?


Obviously losing Wade doesn't help the cause, but Whiteside and improved young guys in Winslow, JRich and TJ could do the trick. This could all backfire though with Whiteside getting complacent by getting paid and our youngins not making a notable jump.

We still got the weather, no state inc tax, winning culture and a very good coach. Also, we'll finally have cap space.

Edit: Forgot about Bosh, but one could argue he's might be already retired.
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#53 » by Mars » Sat Jul 9, 2016 3:57 pm

Of course Riley's going to be here for the rebuild...

• The man is a competitive, calculated, cold-blooded professional.

• He just achieved his "Stage One" after daring Wade to leave the past two summers.

• His "Stage Two" will be the freeing up of Bosh's contract on Feb 9, 2017 after team doctors deny him medical clearance.
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#54 » by Hallstar » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:00 am

Mars wrote:Of course Riley's going to be here for the rebuild...

• The man is a competitive, calculated, cold-blooded professional.

• He just achieved his "Stage One" after daring Wade to leave the past two summers.

• His "Stage Two" will be the freeing up of Bosh's contract on Feb 9, 2017 after team doctors deny him medical clearance.

Bosh will fight that, he had doctors ready to clear him.

We're not getting out of that contract
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#55 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:19 pm

Mars wrote:Of course Riley's going to be here for the rebuild...

• The man is a competitive, calculated, cold-blooded professional.

• He just achieved his "Stage One" after daring Wade to leave the past two summers.

• His "Stage Two" will be the freeing up of Bosh's contract on Feb 9, 2017 after team doctors deny him medical clearance.


The legal nightmare for stage 2 after losing Lebron, after lowballing Wade is great if he wants to get fired. Looking at his moves one can honestly question WTF is he doing. No green font needed. Just driving in the Gables i saw a car with the **** PAT on the back windshield. People are pissed to say the least and we are the most chill market so that says something.

Seeing how one of our man targets in Harden just got taken out of the market with a brilliant GM move where are we going? The Pacers will do the same exact move on Paul George so thats another elite player out for us. We are reduced to Westbrook and Blake. Both will want the 5th year. So unless we are trading a kings ransom we are not getting either one. Pat does more good than bad but right now the simple question remains, what are we doing?
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#56 » by Mars » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:03 pm

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Mars wrote:Of course Riley's going to be here for the rebuild...

• The man is a competitive, calculated, cold-blooded professional.

• He just achieved his "Stage One" after daring Wade to leave the past two summers.

• His "Stage Two" will be the freeing up of Bosh's contract on Feb 9, 2017 after team doctors deny him medical clearance.


The legal nightmare for stage 2 after losing Lebron, after lowballing Wade is great if he wants to get fired. Looking at his moves one can honestly question WTF is he doing...

Every move Riley is making is being done with Micky's express approval. It was ultimately Micky who low-balled Wade. It will ultimately be Micky who makes the final call on how they proceed with Bosh.
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#57 » by Mars » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:11 pm

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Mars wrote:Of course Riley's going to be here for the rebuild...

• The man is a competitive, calculated, cold-blooded professional.

• He just achieved his "Stage One" after daring Wade to leave the past two summers.

• His "Stage Two" will be the freeing up of Bosh's contract on Feb 9, 2017 after team doctors deny him medical clearance.

Bosh will fight that, he had doctors ready to clear him.

We're not getting out of that contract

And when the HEAT doctors said "No" to his medical clearance it was game, set, match. HEAT decides whether he plays. Not outside doctors, not the Player's Association, and not even Bosh himself.

Won't be pretty in terms of public relations, but I expect things to gradually get louder from both sides, the closer we get to training camp, as they begin to dig in on their positions.

Riley and Micky love Bosh, but after the last two seasons I can't see any way they believe he can stay healthy for a full season, and more importantly, trust he will ever be safe on the court.
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#58 » by Hallstar » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:42 pm

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Hallstar wrote:
Mars wrote:Of course Riley's going to be here for the rebuild...

• The man is a competitive, calculated, cold-blooded professional.

• He just achieved his "Stage One" after daring Wade to leave the past two summers.

• His "Stage Two" will be the freeing up of Bosh's contract on Feb 9, 2017 after team doctors deny him medical clearance.

Bosh will fight that, he had doctors ready to clear him.

We're not getting out of that contract

And when the HEAT doctors said "No" to his medical clearance it was game, set, match. HEAT decides whether he plays. Not outside doctors, not the Player's Association, and not even Bosh himself.

Won't be pretty in terms of public relations, but I expect things to gradually get louder from both sides, the closer we get to training camp, as they begin to dig in on their positions.

Riley and Micky love Bosh, but after the last two seasons I can't see any way they believe he can stay healthy for a full season, and more importantly, trust he will ever be safe on the court.


He was still on thinners at the time, a "healthy" Bosh come training camp will not be forced into retirement.

If it was that simple, several teams would have done it in the past.

All Bosh has to do is argue that the team is sabotaging his future earning potential for their own cap shenanigans.
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#59 » by Mars » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:18 pm

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Hallstar wrote:Bosh will fight that, he had doctors ready to clear him.

We're not getting out of that contract

And when the HEAT doctors said "No" to his medical clearance it was game, set, match. HEAT decides whether he plays. Not outside doctors, not the Player's Association, and not even Bosh himself.

Won't be pretty in terms of public relations, but I expect things to gradually get louder from both sides, the closer we get to training camp, as they begin to dig in on their positions.

Riley and Micky love Bosh, but after the last two seasons I can't see any way they believe he can stay healthy for a full season, and more importantly, trust he will ever be safe on the court.


He was still on thinners at the time, a "healthy" Bosh come training camp will not be forced into retirement.

If it was that simple, several teams would have done it in the past.

All Bosh has to do is argue that the team is sabotaging his future earning potential for their own cap shenanigans.

Never once got the impression, from the HEAT standpoint, this was simply an issue of whether Bosh should or shouldn't have been able to play while on blood thinners last season. My sense was it was always a matter of whether Bosh should play again... period.

I'm assuming the HEAT argument will be, if the last two seasons are any measure, Bosh has now proven to be prone to blood clots. Their point of concern and line of argument would probably be that, without a heavy regimen of blood thinners, Bosh could very well clot again, carrying with it life-threatening consequences the franchise isn't willing to be a willing party to. Bosh may pose impact on future earnings. HEAT may counter with life and death.
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Re: So who thinks Riley is sticking around for a rebuild? 

Post#60 » by Shewasfly » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:25 pm

I kind of think his actions will signal what it was that actually happened with Wade.

If he sticks around for another 2+ seasons, I think the thing with Wade truly was mistake and he's sticking around to make up for it and leave on a high note.

I think if he doesn't stick around for the rebuild, it'll be a signal that betraying Wade was the planned task, he's accomplished it and started us on the rebuild road, and now he's out.
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