Trade Market Picking Up?

[bondom34]

Find it interesting he would go to such a poorly built team.


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Its the Lakers. Unless they completely screw up their cap, which they haven't despite the Deng and Mozgov deals, they'll always attract talent. And they do have some decent young pieces too.

Are we sure about this still? I mean, I feel like we've heard the same thing for the last couple of years and it hasn't happened.

This is what didn't make sense to me. I mean they've had chances the last few years and haven't, and couldn't get Love there then either.

[the_process]

What are the chances of Westbrook going to the Lakers in FA? Clippers are a better choice.


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Most guys (75-80%) think it is a lock Westbrook goes to the Lakers. Not necessarily in trade, but that is where he ultimately lands.

Find it interesting he would go to such a poorly built team.


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It would be Russ' team. Unlike the Clips, where he would share the spotlight with Blake and CP3.

[Smitty731]

Its the Lakers. Unless they completely screw up their cap, which they haven't despite the Deng and Mozgov deals, they'll always attract talent. And they do have some decent young pieces too.

Are we sure about this still? I mean, I feel like we've heard the same thing for the last couple of years and it hasn't happened.

This is what didn't make sense to me. I mean they've had chances the last few years and haven't, and couldn't get Love there then either.

No one around the league wanted to play with Kobe in what was clearly his farewell tour.

And they want to see the young guys grow up a little. Bad contracts or not, signing Mozgov and Deng helped. They are both seen as productive vets by many players around the league.

[bondom34]

Are we sure about this still? I mean, I feel like we've heard the same thing for the last couple of years and it hasn't happened.

This is what didn't make sense to me. I mean they've had chances the last few years and haven't, and couldn't get Love there then either.

No one around the league wanted to play with Kobe in what was clearly his farewell tour.

And they want to see the young guys grow up a little. Bad contracts or not, signing Mozgov and Deng helped. They are both seen as productive vets by many players around the league.

I guess, I don't see it but if that's how players feel I suppose it makes sense. I just still see a bad team even if they add a star, but I guess just me. Bummer, was hoping Russ would stick around.

[becorz]

The way the Kings roster is currently set up, it is clear that they need another PG. Right now Garrett Temple is slated to get a decent amount of minutes there. The team has a glut of wings. It is also suspected that Koufus could be on his way out with Papagianis around. Most Kings fans believe that the team's trade block is something like this, according to rumors

Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, Kostas Koufus

The team would love to get a PG, especially with Collison likely getting suspended for a decent chunk of games.

Tyus Jones?

The Kings would be aiming higher than Jones. There are a ton of capable PGs available right now. While Jones has potential, he just isn't ready. Plus, if the Kings are offering Gay and Koufus, I think they can do better than that.

The way the Kings roster is currently set up, it is clear that they need another PG. Right now Garrett Temple is slated to get a decent amount of minutes there. The team has a glut of wings. It is also suspected that Koufus could be on his way out with Papagianis around. Most Kings fans believe that the team's trade block is something like this, according to rumors

Rudy Gay, Ben McLemore, Kostas Koufus

The team would love to get a PG, especially with Collison likely getting suspended for a decent chunk of games.

Yeah. I doubt we can get anything for Ben

Rudy and Kosta are solid but superfluous or not perfect fits. I'm a bit worried about both of their markets, but they are solid rotation players if nothing comes up.

In the end I think they'll stay as market might not reach talent in their cases

It seems to me that the team is trying real hard to get rid of Gay. I think that they are looking to go a different direction offensively in the starting lineup and I do not think Gay would be OK getting less minutes and coming off the bench.

If Monte Ellis would be OK coming off the bench, I still see that Ellis for Gay trade happening, with the Pacers having Thad come off the bench.

[jbent87]

All that said I'm more excited to see the small trades that are about to happen now that free agency is mostly finished. It's always fun to see the plans of different front offices come into view.

I am desperate to see a 4th quarter effort by Bryan Colangelo to figure out this big man logjam situation. Just don't see how we can go into next season with this group and the obvious spacing issues we would have.

[AingesBurner]

Most guys (75-80%) think it is a lock Westbrook goes to the Lakers. Not necessarily in trade, but that is where he ultimately lands.

Find it interesting he would go to such a poorly built team.


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It would be Russ' team. Unlike the Clips, where he would share the spotlight with Blake and CP3.

Clips would most likely trade CP3 to sign Russ and Russ-Blake-DAJ is better than what the Lakers can offer.

[patman52]

Hayward, Exum, Lyles, 2017 UTA 1st, 2018 OKC 1st, 2019 UTA 1st for Westbrook and Ilyasova

Godfather offer for OKC. And Utah still has a pretty good roster left even if Westbrook walks. But being the man on his own team and leading that team to a Western final against Durant and the Dubs (plus a 5 year max offer) just might be enough for him to stay.

Utah
Westbrook/Mack/Neto
Hill/Burks/Ingles
Hood/Johnson/FA
Favors/Diaw/Ilyasova
Gobert/Withey/Pleiss

Oklahoma City
Payne/Exum/Foye
Oladipo/Roberson/Morrow
Hayward/Singler/Huestis
Lyles/Sabonis/McGary
Adams/Kanter/Collison

I like the idea of trading one expiring for another. OKC GM can't inflate Westbrooks tendency to re-sign with Utah and diminish Heyward's chance of staying with OKC at the same time. Then add Lyles and a couple of those 1sts.

[patman52]

What are the chances of Westbrook going to the Lakers in FA? Clippers are a better choice.


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Most guys (75-80%) think it is a lock Westbrook goes to the Lakers. Not necessarily in trade, but that is where he ultimately lands.

Find it interesting he would go to such a poorly built team.


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It is home and his presence makes it a better team. Those stupid contracts they gave this off season to Deng and Mosgov will limit their flxibilty to add after Westbrook though.

[AingesBurner]

Most guys (75-80%) think it is a lock Westbrook goes to the Lakers. Not necessarily in trade, but that is where he ultimately lands.

Find it interesting he would go to such a poorly built team.


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It is home and his presence makes it a better team. Those stupid contracts they gave this off season to Deng and Mosgov will limit their flxibilty to add after Westbrook though.

Exactly, does he want to go to a team that features Ingram, Mozgov, Deng, Randle, Russell, and Clark or go to a team such as the Jazz, stay with OKC, or maybe the Celtics where they have built a good quality teams with great depth? Also if he wants to go home, why not play for the Clips and have them trade CP3 for another player so he can be the man and have a much better team?

[165bows]

I talked to a handful of guys around the league this morning and everyone feels like we could see some deals today through the weekend. Especially with Vegas kicking off this weekend and all of the NBA basically together. With so much money still left around the league and so many dynamics having changed, it sounds like we could see a good deal of movement.

Also, I have it on a very good source that any Westbrook to the Lakers deal would have to start with Ingram. If he's off the table, the Thunder won't even talk to them.

Think Ainge is still in it for Tyreke Evans? I thought through it a bit in the off-season game they put together, and it seemed like a possibility.

IT/AB/Evans/Crowder/Horford wouldn't be a bad starting group, and if Evans has health issues it wouldn't hurt them that much since they don't really need him. I'm sure they wouldn't give up much more than bit parts, but I could see it as a one year Evan Turner replacement. Make any sense or no?

[Smitty731]

I talked to a handful of guys around the league this morning and everyone feels like we could see some deals today through the weekend. Especially with Vegas kicking off this weekend and all of the NBA basically together. With so much money still left around the league and so many dynamics having changed, it sounds like we could see a good deal of movement.

Also, I have it on a very good source that any Westbrook to the Lakers deal would have to start with Ingram. If he's off the table, the Thunder won't even talk to them.

Think Ainge is still in it for Tyreke Evans? I thought through it a bit in the off-season game they put together, and it seemed like a possibility.

IT/AB/Evans/Crowder/Horford wouldn't be a bad starting group, and if Evans has health issues it wouldn't hurt them that much since they don't really need him. I'm sure they wouldn't give up much more than bit parts, but I could see it as a one year Evan Turner replacement. Make any sense or no?

Great timing! I just talked to a Pelicans guy who is here scouting and he said the word he is hearing is that the Pelicans intend to keep Evans at least to start the season.

[sportscrazy]

I talked to a handful of guys around the league this morning and everyone feels like we could see some deals today through the weekend. Especially with Vegas kicking off this weekend and all of the NBA basically together. With so much money still left around the league and so many dynamics having changed, it sounds like we could see a good deal of movement.

Also, I have it on a very good source that any Westbrook to the Lakers deal would have to start with Ingram. If he's off the table, the Thunder won't even talk to them.

Think Ainge is still in it for Tyreke Evans? I thought through it a bit in the off-season game they put together, and it seemed like a possibility.

IT/AB/Evans/Crowder/Horford wouldn't be a bad starting group, and if Evans has health issues it wouldn't hurt them that much since they don't really need him. I'm sure they wouldn't give up much more than bit parts, but I could see it as a one year Evan Turner replacement. Make any sense or no?

Great timing! I just talked to a Pelicans guy who is here scouting and he said the word he is hearing is that the Pelicans intend to keep Evans at least to start the season.

I could see the Lakers finding a deal to land Westbrook now instead of letting a year play out and risk losing their shot at him with negotiations reaching a point where the Lakers say "D'Angelo Russell and Julius Randle, but Brandon Ingram is not on the table", the Thunder respond "D'Angelo Russell or Brandon Ingram, otherwise we shop Westbrook elsewhere" and ending up with an agreement on Brandon Ingram, Nick Young and a TPE for Westbrook (OKC gets Adams-Sabonis-Ingram-Oladipo-Payne as their young line-up and the Lakers secure Westbrook 100% without having to deal two of their young players and dump a contract to boot).

I would say after that, the off-season has a few small roster balance moves ahead of the season with maybe the 76ers finding the right Okafor/Noel trade as the head-liner, then most teams get a feel for where they are in the standings and realistic contention in the regular season before shopping some bigger names to the point that we actually see them get dealt and a deal finalized (Jimmy Butler, Eric Bledsoe, DeMarcus Cousins, John Wall, Goran Dragic, etc.) or get a feel for where they stand with impending 2017 free agents (Paul Millsap, Blake Griffin/J.J. Redick (maybe Chris Paul if things break that way by the trade deadline), Gordon Hayward, etc.).

Is that a fair assessment of the current trade market or am I way off here?

[OleSchool]

Most guys (75-80%) think it is a lock Westbrook goes to the Lakers. Not necessarily in trade, but that is where he ultimately lands.

Find it interesting he would go to such a poorly built team.


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Its the Lakers. Unless they completely screw up their cap, which they haven't despite the Deng and Mozgov deals, they'll always attract talent. And they do have some decent young pieces too.

See, Im surprised that Westbrook would want to go to the Lakers and basically start all over agin in his prime. How many years is he going to waste just to get back to the PO's let alone being in contention for a championship?

I could see him wanting to go to the Clips, I know cap space is going to be an issue going to the Clips but they're a PO team now and adding Westbrook would make them in the mix for a chip

[the_process]

Who could the Clippers trade for Westbrook? Griffin? That sets them back more than it puts them ahead IMO. Maybe...

Westbrook to LAC
CP3 to CLE
Irving to OKC

Maybe something like that?

[RR9]

Who could the Clippers trade for Westbrook? Griffin? That sets them back more than it puts them ahead IMO. Maybe...

Westbrook to LAC
CP3 to CLE
Irving to OKC

Maybe something like that?

That's...actually a great trade idea, but I think with Irving's amazing performance in the finals, they don't move him.

[the_process]

Who could the Clippers trade for Westbrook? Griffin? That sets them back more than it puts them ahead IMO. Maybe...

Westbrook to LAC
CP3 to CLE
Irving to OKC

Maybe something like that?

That's...actually a great trade idea, but I think with Irving's amazing performance in the finals, they don't move him.

LeBron is the GM, CP3 is his boy, and they have to improve to stay ahead of GS. CP3 improves CLE's D and raises their playmaking ability to a whole new level.

It's a bit of a stretch no doubt, but at least realistic I think.

[mademan]

Who could the Clippers trade for Westbrook? Griffin? That sets them back more than it puts them ahead IMO. Maybe...

Westbrook to LAC
CP3 to CLE
Irving to OKC

Maybe something like that?

That's...actually a great trade idea, but I think with Irving's amazing performance in the finals, they don't move him.

LeBron is the GM, CP3 is his boy, and they have to improve to stay ahead of GS. CP3 improves CLE's D and raises their playmaking ability to a whole new level.

It's a bit of a stretch no doubt, but at least realistic I think.

Nah. Kyrie wouldve been in convo for FMVP if Lebron didnt put up legendary numbers. He has outplayed every pg in the last 2 years in his PO run; Lebron may be GM, but even he wouldnt trade Ky, who has his whole future ahead of him and is still getting better, for Paul who can fall off at any minute. Lebron already saw that with Wade

[FrontPageNews]

Who could the Clippers trade for Westbrook? Griffin? That sets them back more than it puts them ahead IMO. Maybe...

Westbrook to LAC
CP3 to CLE
Irving to OKC

Maybe something like that?

That's...actually a great trade idea, but I think with Irving's amazing performance in the finals, they don't move him.

LeBron is the GM, CP3 is his boy, and they have to improve to stay ahead of GS. CP3 improves CLE's D and raises their playmaking ability to a whole new level.

It's a bit of a stretch no doubt, but at least realistic I think.

A year ago I would have agreed with you. But Kyrie took his game to another level. Cp3 struggles against GS. Kyrie seemed to have his best series ever against them and he's only 24. You just can't do that trade.

[AingesBurner]

Who could the Clippers trade for Westbrook? Griffin? That sets them back more than it puts them ahead IMO. Maybe...

Westbrook to LAC
CP3 to CLE
Irving to OKC

Maybe something like that?

True story thought about this today.


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