Jays have highest attendance in AL so far this year

gei · Post #1 » by **gei** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 3:53 pm

Jays #5 in average home attendance this year, #1 in the AL - ahead of the Yankees, Angels, Boston (smaller stadium to be fair), KC, etc.

Very impressive. Rogers would be fools to not ride this wave of new interest. Then again, they are fools, so who knows...

Source: http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

Lateral Quicks · Post #2 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 4:26 pm

With all that money filling their coffers, one would hope that payroll doesn't decrease going forward. Certainly there should be enough to bring back EE for elite DH money on a 3 year deal. I'm not sure if there's enough for EE and Saunders though - too early to gauge his market based on one excellent (so far) season.

Raps in 4 · Post #3 » by **Raps in 4** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 4:30 pm

In before Rogers slashes pay roll again next year.

Skin Blues · Post #4 » by **Skin Blues** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 5:34 pm

Lateral Quicks wrote:With all that money filling their coffers, one would hope that payroll doesn't decrease going forward. Certainly there should be enough to bring back EE for elite DH money on a 3 year deal.

There's enough to sign every player in baseball, the question is if it makes sense as a financial investment. They won't spend $25M on a player if it only brings back $10M in revenue.

Raider917 · Post #5 » by **Raider917** » Fri Jul 8, 2016 5:43 pm

will cespedes be available this winter? id rather get him than resign bautista

EJaggit · Post #6 » by **EJaggit** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:08 am

That's crazy! I wonder how many people did show up last year, was our record as good as this last year at the half?

Jays4WS · Post #7 » by **Jays4WS** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:13 am

EJaggit wrote:That's crazy! I wonder how many people did show up last year, was our record as good as this last year at the half?

Doubt it, they were only selling out on Weekends until they went on that run the last 2 months. Now they have 36k+ even on weekdays which is good to see.

Edit: Oh yea, Toronto only cares about Hockey btw.

duppyy · Post #8 » by **duppyy** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:33 pm

This wont do anything unfortunately. Rogers will still be cheap.

They like to hide how much money they make from the Jays.

Rogers see's an increase in revenue and they attribute it to their other services and ignore the Jays.

Skin Blues · Post #9 » by **Skin Blues** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:31 pm

duppyy wrote:This wont do anything unfortunately. Rogers will still be cheap.

They like to hide how much money they make from the Jays.

Rogers see's an increase in revenue and they attribute it to their other services and ignore the Jays.

They know exactly how much the Jays make them. For profit sharing and other accounting reasons they allocate it "creatively" but they aren't stupid. They will spend money to prevent the fans from abandoning the team, but that is completely separate issue than how they allocate revenue. With Bautista and Edwin likely to leave town, they will probably need to spend big to maintain attendance and fan interest, unless they make the playoffs. If we make the playoffs, they can spend less since they'll have huge season ticket sales and renewals already on the books for 2017 from people who want a chance at playoff seats. In that case, they wouldn't need to worry about spending big until after the 2017 season is over.

The_Hater · Post #10 » by **The_Hater** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:17 pm

EJaggit wrote:That's crazy! I wonder how many people did show up last year, was our record as good as this last year at the half?

After 91 games last season the Jays were 45-46.

Al_Oliver · Post #11 » by **Al_Oliver** » Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:32 pm

Skin Blues wrote:
duppyy wrote:This wont do anything unfortunately. Rogers will still be cheap.

They like to hide how much money they make from the Jays.

Rogers see's an increase in revenue and they attribute it to their other services and ignore the Jays.

They know exactly how much the Jays make them. For profit sharing and other accounting reasons they allocate it "creatively" but they aren't stupid. They will spend money to prevent the fans from abandoning the team, but that is completely separate issue than how they allocate revenue. With Bautista and Edwin likely to leave town, they will probably need to spend big to maintain attendance and fan interest, unless they make the playoffs. If we make the playoffs, they can spend less since they'll have huge season ticket sales and renewals already on the books for 2017 from people who want a chance at playoff seats. In that case, they wouldn't need to worry about spending big until after the 2017 season is over.

this article best explains Rogers and the Jays

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/no-love-for-blue-jays-in-rogerss-sports-spending-blame-an-accounting-rule/article28709405/

Rapcity_11 · Post #12 » by **Rapcity_11** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:41 am

Al_Oliver wrote:
Skin Blues wrote:
duppyy wrote:This wont do anything unfortunately. Rogers will still be cheap.

They like to hide how much money they make from the Jays.

Rogers see's an increase in revenue and they attribute it to their other services and ignore the Jays.

They know exactly how much the Jays make them. For profit sharing and other accounting reasons they allocate it "creatively" but they aren't stupid. They will spend money to prevent the fans from abandoning the team, but that is completely separate issue than how they allocate revenue. With Bautista and Edwin likely to leave town, they will probably need to spend big to maintain attendance and fan interest, unless they make the playoffs. If we make the playoffs, they can spend less since they'll have huge season ticket sales and renewals already on the books for 2017 from people who want a chance at playoff seats. In that case, they wouldn't need to worry about spending big until after the 2017 season is over.

this article best explains Rogers and the Jays

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/no-love-for-blue-jays-in-rogerss-sports-spending-blame-an-accounting-rule/article28709405/

Definitely not buying that. Investors are too sophisticated to be not understand the full picture of Rogers. Also, EBITDA is far from the only thing that matters.

Skin Blues · Post #13 » by **Skin Blues** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:33 pm

Yeah, investors aren't that stupid to be ignorant of the fact that Rogers has a sweetheart deal with the Jays for media rights. They know when the Jays are successful, advertising rates increase dramatically. They wouldn't blindly look at a standard accounting formula.

Relentless88 · Post #14 » by **Relentless88** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:46 pm

I went to a 4 PM game on a Wednesday (against Arizona) a few weeks back and was surprised how packed it was. Pretty incredible to see how far we've come.

Rapcity_11 · Post #15 » by **Rapcity_11** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:01 pm

Skin Blues wrote:Yeah, investors aren't that stupid to be ignorant of the fact that Rogers has a sweetheart deal with the Jays for media rights. They know when the Jays are successful, advertising rates increase dramatically. They wouldn't blindly look at a standard accounting formula.

Also, things like earnings per share and cash flows would be affected the same regardless of whether it was the Leafs of Jays situation.