Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To

[gom]

Thx for the cheer up GOM

[DayofMourning]

I would like two lottery picks in next years draft. But...how? Hmmm....

[gom]

I would like two lottery picks in next years draft. But...how? Hmmm....

Dragic to Rockets for their 2017 pick, Michael Gbinije, and Chinanu Onuaku. It's a bit of a risk that the Rockets make the playoffs, but out west it will be tough.

[RJM]

I would like two lottery picks in next years draft. But...how? Hmmm....

Dragic to Rockets for their 2017 pick, Michael Gbinije, and Chinanu Onuaku. It's a bit of a risk that the Rockets make the playoffs, but out west it will be tough.

Why does Houston acquire a guard that requires the ball to be effective with Har-en there?

[gom]

I would like two lottery picks in next years draft. But...how? Hmmm....

Dragic to Rockets for their 2017 pick, Michael Gbinije, and Chinanu Onuaku. It's a bit of a risk that the Rockets make the playoffs, but out west it will be tough.

Why does Houston acquire a guard that requires the ball to be effective with Har-en there?

Rockets like Dragic a lot. Many teams were looking into acquiring him.

[RJM]

Dragic to Rockets for their 2017 pick, Michael Gbinije, and Chinanu Onuaku. It's a bit of a risk that the Rockets make the playoffs, but out west it will be tough.

Why does Houston acquire a guard that requires the ball to be effective with Har-en there?

Rockets like Dragic a lot. Many teams were looking into acquiring him.

Not THAT much.

[gom]

Why does Houston acquire a guard that requires the ball to be effective with Har-en there?

Rockets like Dragic a lot. Many teams were looking into acquiring him.

Not THAT much.

Do you think the Rocket pick is so valuable? Funny. I can see that going anywhere from 10-24 depending on how they do this off-season. I can't believe how some Heat fans undervalue Dragic. He's being paid half of Conley's salary. In two years he'll make less than Tyler Johnson. But he's still a bad deal.

Unbelievable.

[DayofMourning]

90 percent of the time draft picks and young players get overrated. They're young so they HAVE to improve, right? In our current state, I'd say you add as many as you can and see who rises to the top. I DO NOT want more vets on this team who will take away minutes from our young guys.

As for the Houston trade, I'd prefer Qi, Dekker and the 2017 first.

[RJM]

Rockets like Dragic a lot. Many teams were looking into acquiring him.

Not THAT much.

Do you think the Rocket pick is so valuable? Funny. I can see that going anywhere from 10-24 depending on how they do this off-season. I can't believe how some Heat fans undervalue Dragic. He's being paid half of Conley's salary. In two years he'll make less than Tyler Johnson. But he's still a bad deal.

Unbelievable.

Try to think as the Rockets GM. Fit. REAL fit, not fan fit or message board fit. Go ahead and propose that over on the Rockets' board. If they actually like it, I'll be shocked. Even if they did, the actual staff wouldn't. That pick has a higher chance of being a lottery pick due to their conference, therefore making it much more valuable than Miami's.

As I mentioned before, Goran needs the ball to be successful. Harden dominates the ball on that team. Pat Beverley doesn't need the ball, therefore he works well alongside Harden. The Rockets need all their assets and won't waste them on a 30 year old PG that won't move the needle in their division.

It's a loaded draft next summer. Why in the world would they give up a valuable pick like that...for Goran Dragic of all people? His defense will be even worse under D'Antoni, and with Harden already Har-en, that Rockets team will be comedic on defense and with no first round pick to show for it when they miss the playoffs.

[QUIZ]

Thoughts on Dennis Smith?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW1CVy7Un1Y[/youtube]

[cyclix]

Thoughts on Dennis Smith?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW1CVy7Un1Y[/youtube]

He's pretty much Kyrie with Westbrook's athleticism. That is f****** scary. If he didn't have that ACL tear, he would be a TOP 2 consensus.

[HIF]

Isn't it a little early for this thread?

It's as though the Heat fans have given up on their team before the season starts.

[kayath]

in my humble opinion we have bunch of young guys ready to play - Josh Richardson and Justise Winslow there should be plenty of playing time for them to develop. Hassan Whiteside is still here guys and he is a monster under the basket and he is still young and can get even better specially on defensive end. With Dragic having the ball more often game will be much faster from the start where Josh and Justise can be good. For half court offense we still have Bosh hopefully and Whiteside. I want to see more P&R and P&P. We are still missing few pieces and Derrick Williams is good addition if he wont go full Beasly or Green.

[gom]

Isn't it a little early for this thread?

It's as though the Heat fans have given up on their team before the season starts.

Why? Aren't we supposed to be excited about our draft pick? We almost never get one.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/duke-blue-devils-marques-bolden-commitment-2017-number-one-ranking-051916

It is really early in the season, but it's never too early to get informed. In fact, there still may be changes (transfers etc) in the college lineups. Duke & Kentucky have most of the best players (though Dennis Smith is NC State, Ivan Rabb (Berkeley), and Josh Jackson is Kansas). Here is Duke's potential lineup (keep in mind these are very young players and some may not choose to be drafted in 2017 - Ivan Rabb, for example, chose to sty another year in Berkeley):

Frank Jackson, Fr, PG, 6-4, 195, 5/4/98 (top 20)
Grayson Allen, Jr, SG, 6-5, 205, 10/8/95 (top 20)
Luke Kennard, So, SG, 6-5, 190, 6/24/96
Jayson Tatum, Fr, SF, 6-9, 203, 3/3/98 (top 5)
Jack White, Fr, SF, 6-7, 225, 8/5/97 (may surprise)
Harry Giles, Fr, PF, 6-9, 230, 4/22/98 (top 3)
Javin DeLaurier, Fr, PF, 6-9, 205, 4/7/98
Marques Bolden, Fr, C, 6-10, 240, 4/17/98 (top 20 - but one of the best centers so will likely rise)
Chase Jeter, So, C, 6-10, 240, 9/19/97 (improving game)

If we finished about where we did this year and Grayson Allen was available, he would be a great pick. If we finish in the lottery, though, and get a chance to draft talent like Tatum, Giles, Smith, or Josh Jackson, it would be incredible.

I'm excited.

[gom]

in my humble opinion we have bunch of young guys ready to play - Josh Richardson and Justise Winslow there should be plenty of playing time for them to develop. Hassan Whiteside is still here guys and he is a monster under the basket and he is still young and can get even better especially on defensive end. With Dragic having the ball more often game will be much faster from the start where Josh and Justise can be good. For half court offense we still have Bosh hopefully and Whiteside. I want to see more P&R and P&P. We are still missing few pieces and Derrick Williams is good addition if he won't go full Beasley or Green.

Don't forget Weber. Also, I suspect that McGruder will split time between Miami and Sioux Falls, but for them to use a roster space on him is an indication that they are going to invest heavily in his future.

[gom]

Thoughts on Dennis Smith?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW1CVy7Un1Y[/youtube]

He's pretty much Kyrie with Westbrook's athleticism. That is f****** scary. If he didn't have that ACL tear, he would be a TOP 2 consensus.

Well, yeah, Smith is incredible. If he is on the board when we pick I'd love to get him. In this draft he may sink to 10th like Winslow did.

3 guys in the top 10 are power forwards. You know about Harry Giles and Ivan Rabb, but what about Jonathan Isaac. He's from Naples and will play at FSU:

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jonathan-isaac

Shoots 3s, good around the basket, gets blocks.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi8i66mP7-I[/youtube]

[cyclix]

Thoughts on Dennis Smith?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW1CVy7Un1Y[/youtube]

He's pretty much Kyrie with Westbrook's athleticism. That is f****** scary. If he didn't have that ACL tear, he would be a TOP 2 consensus.

Well, yeah, Smith is incredible. If he is on the board when we pick I'd love to get him. In this draft he may sink to 10th like Winslow did.

3 guys in the top 10 are power forwards. You know about Harry Giles and Ivan Rabb, but what about Jonathan Isaac. He's from Naples and will play at FSU:

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jonathan-isaac

Shoots 3s, good around the basket, gets blocks.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi8i66mP7-I[/youtube]

Issac is from South Florida and is a big sleeper in the draft. He has a chance to potentially be the best SF and has a Durant-like game with similar length: 6'10 with a ~7 '1 wingspan and 9 '1 reach. If we don't get Josh Jackson, I don't mind him at all. I like him better than Tatum, IMO.

[Seabass777]

Thoughts on Dennis Smith?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW1CVy7Un1Y[/youtube]

He's pretty much Kyrie with Westbrook's athleticism. That is f****** scary. If he didn't have that ACL tear, he would be a TOP 2 consensus.

Well, yeah, Smith is incredible. If he is on the board when we pick I'd love to get him. In this draft he may sink to 10th like Winslow did.

3 guys in the top 10 are power forwards. You know about Harry Giles and Ivan Rabb, but what about Jonathan Isaac. He's from Naples and will play at FSU:

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jonathan-isaac

Shoots 3s, good around the basket, gets blocks.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi8i66mP7-I[/youtube]

He needs to eat his way in club sandwiches,extra mayo.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Thoughts on Dennis Smith?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW1CVy7Un1Y[/youtube]

Shorter John Wall.

[QUIZ]

Why? Aren't we supposed to be excited about our draft pick? We almost never get one.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/duke-blue-devils-marques-bolden-commitment-2017-number-one-ranking-051916

It is really early in the season, but it's never too early to get informed. In fact, there still may be changes (transfers etc) in the college lineups. Duke & Kentucky have most of the best players (though Dennis Smith is NC State, Ivan Rabb (Berkeley), and Josh Jackson is Kansas). Here is Duke's potential lineup (keep in mind these are very young players and some may not choose to be drafted in 2017 - Ivan Rabb, for example, chose to sty another year in Berkeley):

Frank Jackson, Fr, PG, 6-4, 195, 5/4/98 (top 20)
Grayson Allen, Jr, SG, 6-5, 205, 10/8/95 (top 20)
Luke Kennard, So, SG, 6-5, 190, 6/24/96
Jayson Tatum, Fr, SF, 6-9, 203, 3/3/98 (top 5)
Jack White, Fr, SF, 6-7, 225, 8/5/97 (may surprise)
Harry Giles, Fr, PF, 6-9, 230, 4/22/98 (top 3)
Javin DeLaurier, Fr, PF, 6-9, 205, 4/7/98
Marques Bolden, Fr, C, 6-10, 240, 4/17/98 (top 20 - but one of the best centers so will likely rise)
Chase Jeter, So, C, 6-10, 240, 9/19/97 (improving game)

If we finished about where we did this year and Grayson Allen was available, he would be a great pick. If we finish in the lottery, though, and get a chance to draft talent like Tatum, Giles, Smith, or Josh Jackson, it would be incredible.

I'm excited.

Pretty much this, even if we don't get a super high pick at least we get one. Grayson Allen will go somewhere in the 20's so even if we somehow got a top 4 seed again he'd still be attainable.