Thon Maker

[Skin]

People need to get over hating on Thon. Just because you guys (you know who you are) were dead wrong about his draft value, you need to get over your egos. Face it. You were WRONG. OWN IT. ...and nothing else matters from here on out because there are both good and bad players who have been picked with the 10th pick. It's not like a Top 3 pick that has to live up to high scrutiny. The Bucks did their research and they feel like the risk matches the reward.

[Prez]

I mean the guy was apparently blowing away the Bucks with his workouts. Hammond has seen thousands of workouts, he knows a bit about prospects. And I'm positive if some redditors and message board posters can sleuth it up and figure out he's probably older than 19, a pro basketball organization knew it too. They were pretty obvious about that in all their responses to age-related questions..I don't like it at all, but I'm 99% sure they're aware. If they knew that and still loved him, he likely showed them something we haven't seen. I'm not saying he's going to be a stud, I was a huge skeptic of his before the draft, but at this point I think it'd be reasonable to hold off on trashing him until he actually hits the court. If he's sucking hard during the season, rip on him then.

[treefi]

People need to get over hating on Thon. Just because you guys (you know who you are) were dead wrong about his draft value, you need to get over your egos. Face it. You were WRONG. OWN IT. ...and nothing else matters from here on out because there are both good and bad players who have been picked with the 10th pick. It's not like a Top 3 pick that has to live up to high scrutiny. The Bucks did their research and they feel like the risk matches the reward.

Were people wrong for having Draymond Green as a lottery pick when he was a prospect, simply because NBA teams ended up placing his draft value in the 2nd round? What about all of those who had Anthony Bennett as a late lottery, or even out of the lottery, draft value? Were they wrong because an NBA team took him with the #1 pick? lol A lot of people thought Yi Jianlian never should have been a 1st round pick.

We'll see what happens here on out...I see no problem with anyone wanting to hate on Milwaukee/Thon for taking him #10 overall. Part of the fun! I took a lot of heat for loving Biyombo as a prospect until the 2016 playoffs. Until then, I was wrong. Who knows what'll happen, hopefully Thon isn't actually 23 years old.

[Skin]

People need to get over hating on Thon. Just because you guys (you know who you are) were dead wrong about his draft value, you need to get over your egos. Face it. You were WRONG. OWN IT. ...and nothing else matters from here on out because there are both good and bad players who have been picked with the 10th pick. It's not like a Top 3 pick that has to live up to high scrutiny. The Bucks did their research and they feel like the risk matches the reward.

Were people wrong for having Draymond Green as a lottery pick when he was a prospect, simply because NBA teams ended up placing his draft value in the 2nd round? What about all of those who had Anthony Bennett as a late lottery, or even out of the lottery, draft value? Were they wrong because an NBA team took him with the #1 pick? lol A lot of people thought Yi Jianlian never should have been a 1st round pick.

We'll see what happens here on out...I see no problem with anyone wanting to hate on Milwaukee/Thon for taking him #10 overall. Part of the fun! I took a lot of heat for loving Biyombo as a prospect until the 2016 playoffs. Until then, I was wrong. Who knows what'll happen, hopefully Thon isn't actually 23 years old.

I think we're talking about two different things.

Thon proved those wrong who said he was a late 1st/2nd round pick. If people said he was not worth a lottery pick, they were wrong because he ended up being that. This is a fact. It's in the past and we can judge it now because that debate is over.

Where he goes from here is anyone's guess. If he busts, he busts. If he thrives, he thrives. But it would be silly to say he's not worth taking at 10 for the very reasons you just said. It's way to premature to guess his future now.

[HeartBreakKid]

People need to get over hating on Thon. Just because you guys (you know who you are) were dead wrong about his draft value, you need to get over your egos. Face it. You were WRONG. OWN IT. ...and nothing else matters from here on out because there are both good and bad players who have been picked with the 10th pick. It's not like a Top 3 pick that has to live up to high scrutiny. The Bucks did their research and they feel like the risk matches the reward.

Were people wrong for having Draymond Green as a lottery pick when he was a prospect, simply because NBA teams ended up placing his draft value in the 2nd round? What about all of those who had Anthony Bennett as a late lottery, or even out of the lottery, draft value? Were they wrong because an NBA team took him with the #1 pick? lol A lot of people thought Yi Jianlian never should have been a 1st round pick.

We'll see what happens here on out...I see no problem with anyone wanting to hate on Milwaukee/Thon for taking him #10 overall. Part of the fun! I took a lot of heat for loving Biyombo as a prospect until the 2016 playoffs. Until then, I was wrong. Who knows what'll happen, hopefully Thon isn't actually 23 years old.

I think we're talking about two different things.

Thon proved those wrong who said he was a late 1st/2nd round pick. If people said he was not worth a lottery pick, they were wrong because he ended up being that. This is a fact. It's in the past and we can judge it now because that debate is over.

Where he goes from here is anyone's guess. If he busts, he busts. If he thrives, he thrives. But it would be silly to say he's not worth taking at 10 for the very reasons you just said. It's way to premature to guess his future now.

That makes no sense. Just because he is literally a lotto pick does not mean he was worth one. You can buy a house for a million dollars, doesn't mean it's actually worth that much...or to use a basketball analogy, Anthony Bennett isn't worth the first pick in the draft even though he literally was the first pick in the draft.

At best, it just proved that the Bucks org values him as a lotto pick. That doesn't mean he is valued at that price league wide...

[immortalone23]

But if he's actually 23, then he'd be ineligible to be drafted.

[Skin]

Were people wrong for having Draymond Green as a lottery pick when he was a prospect, simply because NBA teams ended up placing his draft value in the 2nd round? What about all of those who had Anthony Bennett as a late lottery, or even out of the lottery, draft value? Were they wrong because an NBA team took him with the #1 pick? lol A lot of people thought Yi Jianlian never should have been a 1st round pick.

We'll see what happens here on out...I see no problem with anyone wanting to hate on Milwaukee/Thon for taking him #10 overall. Part of the fun! I took a lot of heat for loving Biyombo as a prospect until the 2016 playoffs. Until then, I was wrong. Who knows what'll happen, hopefully Thon isn't actually 23 years old.

I think we're talking about two different things.

Thon proved those wrong who said he was a late 1st/2nd round pick. If people said he was not worth a lottery pick, they were wrong because he ended up being that. This is a fact. It's in the past and we can judge it now because that debate is over.

Where he goes from here is anyone's guess. If he busts, he busts. If he thrives, he thrives. But it would be silly to say he's not worth taking at 10 for the very reasons you just said. It's way to premature to guess his future now.

That makes no sense. Just because he is literally a lotto pick does not mean he was worth one. You can buy a house for a million dollars, doesn't mean it's actually worth that much...or to use a basketball analogy, Anthony Bennett isn't worth the first pick in the draft even though he literally was the first pick in the draft.

At best, it just proved that the Bucks org values him as a lotto pick. That doesn't mean he is valued at that price league wide...

Well that's what people need to consider when making blanket statements. That it only takes one team to like a guy. You can't say he isn't worth a lottery pick when he ends up being picked in the lottery in real life. That's just an ego trip if you can't admit you're wrong after it happens.

It's fair to say Anthony Bennett wasn't worth the 1st pick of the draft looking back at it today. But you couldn't say it and be 100% sure of it days after the draft. It would've just been your guess. Right now, the opinions on how Thon will turn out are just guesses too. ...and secondly, who cares if he busts? He was the 10th pick. Those bust all the time. Heck, top 3 picks bust all the time. MIL doesn't need to be criticized for taking him here. Swinging for the fences with the 10th pick is certainly understandable.

[madmaxmedia]

Best comment from Reddit on the whole controversy:

Regismarkv3 points1 day ago

not only was he playing against highschool boys he was smashing highschool girls when he was like 23.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/4q3bvy/research_into_thon_makers_age_probably_far_older/

[zimpy27]

Looking pretty good in the opening match in SL tbh

[Prez]

His physical tools are just nasty. The way he flies down the floor at 7'1" is absurd. If he can just add like 10-15 pounds to help finish better through contact, man...

[GimmeDat]

Really happy he was able to have a strong first game.

[Rastas]

Guess he's pretty good against non HS kids also - not bad for a 40yo !

Go get em Thon , it's your time bro.

[JMac1]

Very Very Mobile. I was very impressed with his motor, speed, and agility. He looks to have the foundation of a plus player. First time I have seen him play. He and Giannis may cause some problems on the defensive end.

[JMac1]

His physical tools are just nasty. The way he flies down the floor at 7'1" is absurd. If he can just add like 10-15 pounds to help finish better through contact, man...

Agreed. So far so good. I really can't see him busting because of his tools and motor.

[No-Man]

pros are the same we knew, he is mobile, he plays hard he is confident as a shooter while been long as ****.
cons are everything else, doesnt know when to pass, takes awful gambles both in shooting and defensively, lacks strength in a major way, something difficult to add if he's older than we think, and balls skills are not there, he is not precisely KD as a shooter even if he believes so.

His upside if he understand his role, and his abilities could be as a mobile C that can block shots, finish at the rim and shot it some, if he evolves enough with experience that he is not a negative and doesnt chuck too many shots, or gets the ball, he might be a mobile big that can defend and shoot it, sort of like Ibaka, needs to add mass to get there too.
If not, he's likely China-bound, the upside as a star or as a blue-chipper is not there, never was.

[BillyKingGM]

Maker definitely doesn't have the frame to become a big... He is a perimeter player with length.

[JMac1]

pros are the same we knew, he is mobile, he plays hard he is confident as a shooter while been long as ****.
cons are everything else, doesnt know when to pass, takes awful gambles both in shooting and defensively, lacks strength in a major way, something difficult to add if he's older than we think, and balls skills are not there, he is not precisely KD as a shooter even if he believes so.

His upside if he understand his role, and his abilities could be as a mobile C that can block shots, finish at the rim and shot it some, if he evolves enough with experience that he is not a negative and doesnt chuck too many shots, or gets the ball, he might be a mobile big that can defend and shoot it, sort of like Ibaka, needs to add mass to get there too.
If not, he's likely China-bound, the upside as a star or as a blue-chipper is not there, never was.

I agree with everything you said, but I really don't want to say he can't get better at the things he is weak at right now. 19 or 22 or 23, he is being taught by the best in the world. He didn't grow up in America and start playing ball at 5 years old everyday like all of the 19 year old U.S. players. Also, when you have a motor that means you have drive and if you have drive, you will get better at whatever you do.

So, sky's the limit for this guy, because he has things you can't teach, height, length, agility, and heart. Don't bet against him, nor put a ceiling on his talent.

[TheGoodDoctor]

Only a couple of years into his prime, impressive!

[Bucks2585]

Maker definitely doesn't have the frame to become a big... He is a perimeter player with length.

I've learned you can never say that. For the Bucks alone, John He son has never been able to gain weight. At all. He's listed at 230 now, and as a veteran in the NBA as long as he has been combined with how long he was in college, I believe it, but he's still rail thin. At the same time, look at Tyson Chandlers rookie year, and you wonder how that guy got so big.

Us saying a guy doesn't have the frame means nothing because we don't have the actually medical testing that has to come from actually physically giving him a physical

[H2tObes]

10th pick doesn't seen like a reach from what I've seen of him so far. Believe he had 17/17 today with 2 blocks, kid has a hell of a motor