Can we talk about Marcus Stroman?

[WaltFrazier]

Nice to see Jesse Barfield still a Jay at heart.

[Skin Blues]

what? stroman has been hot garbage over 2 months, why would seattle give up an ace for that?

Because their ace is on the wrong side of 30, has 2300+ innings on his arm, is putting up by far the worst xFIP/SIERA of his career which are considerably worse than anything Stroman has done in his 3 years in the majors (caused by the King's lowest K% and highest BB% he's ever posted, along with injury concerns), and has a contract that pays him $79M over the next three seasons. Compared to Stroman who will cost a fraction of that for the next 4 seasons, all of which will be completed before he even has his 30th birthday. Seattle would be crazy to turn down a Stroman for Felix offer, and we'd be just as crazy to make the offer in the first place.

What has stroman done to warrant any value?

He's pitched to a 3.56 SIERA and 4.10 ERA over his first 250 innings following up elite performance in the high minor leagues and has 4 more cheap years of team control remaining. I think it's pretty obvious what makes him so valuable.

[Hoopstarr]

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Man, STFU with the empty millennial twitterisms! I might be the only person that thinks this but damn it I'll keep doing it.

[C Court]

Two solid outings for Marcus.

[Schad]

Man, STFU with the empty millennial twitterisms! I might be the only person that thinks this but damn it I'll keep doing it.

Seriously. Can't we all be cynical **** again? I liked being a cynical ****.

RT if you are #blessed to be a cynical ****.

[LLJ]

Haha. It occurs to me now that most Realgmers would never make it as pro athletes. Cynicism doesn't lend itself well to being a pro athlete. You gotta delude yourself to be great. Although I guess Tracy McGrady came closest to being a true cynic while being a great pro. Can't even count the number of times in his career he cried "The sky is falling!"

'Course, you could argue that's why he never made it out of round 1.

[Hoopstarr]

Haha. It occurs to me now that most Realgmers would never make it as pro athletes. Cynicism doesn't lend itself well to being a pro athlete. You gotta delude yourself to be great. Although I guess Tracy McGrady came closest to being a true cynic while being a great pro. Can't even count the number of times in his career he cried "The sky is falling!"

'Course, you could argue that's why he never made it out of round 1.

I'm not anti-optimism, I'm anti empty/cryptic/trite/glib/superficial/hashtaggy type of speech. Basically what you see the majority of time on Twitter.

[LLJ]

Haha. It occurs to me now that most Realgmers would never make it as pro athletes. Cynicism doesn't lend itself well to being a pro athlete. You gotta delude yourself to be great. Although I guess Tracy McGrady came closest to being a true cynic while being a great pro. Can't even count the number of times in his career he cried "The sky is falling!"

'Course, you could argue that's why he never made it out of round 1.

I'm not anti-optimism, I'm anti empty/cryptic/trite/glib/superficial/hashtaggy type of speech. Basically what you see the majority of time on Twitter.

Feel good quotes and optimism is usually superficial tripe, though. Of course, I'm a pessimist so I always roll my eyes a little at this stuff. That said, it works for people more than you think--it's not the actual speeches themselves that are great, it's the fact that many athletes actually believe this stuff. People can really overachieve when they trick themselves to believe in something enough,

[EJaggit]

Happy that he's been pitching better as of these past two starts. Sure he hasn't played too well, it's looking better now, he's one of those playoff pitchers- he out pitched David Price in the alds, as well as the alcs last season! I'll take him again!