Build a Team 15.0 Discussion **Champion OKC Thunder- spree8**

[Yankeeknickfan]

Integrity? Hoffa was context all along

[moocow007]

My Western Conference rankings are in to bish...should have the Eastern Conference rankings in tomorrow.

[swisscheeseD]

My Western Conference rankings are in to bish...should have the Eastern Conference rankings in tomorrow.

What was your PayPal info again?

[bishnykfan]

I have two of our judges rank a conferences each so now just waiting on four more set of rankings so we can get our results. All the judges are hoping to get them done by today/tonight so hopefully we can put a wrap on BaT 15 tonight with some final results.

[El Poochio]

Ice in veins CONFIRMED

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[NewEra]

Spree's team is beastly smh

[spree8]

Spree's team is beastly smh

lol thanks brew

[br7knicks]

Just because a guy score 20ppg in real life doesn't mean hell do it on our fake teams. So if you have 5 guys that score 20ppg in your starting lineup, that doesn't mean you're automatically getting 100 ppg from your starters on our hypothetical team. In real life these guys are doing it because they're the only ones on their real teams who can score (paul george). Vice versa, a guy getting off a star studded team might score more on our hypothetical teams.

[br7knicks]

stats, to me, tells what a player is capable of. if a guy scores 20 ppg, that shows he has the capabilities, but may not do it consistently.

marcus thornton: a few years ago, was given the starting job and averaged 20+ ppg as a starter. hasn't done it since. this shows he had the ability to do so, but he clearly couldn't cut it in the NBA and do it consistently.

isaiah thomas: all he needed was a chance and the reigns of a team to prove, even as a second round selection. plus, he's done it on multiple teams and shows he can do it if given the chance. you put 2 other high volume scorers on his team, he probably won't put up 20ppg, but his assists will go up because he is a good passer and solid play maker, and he'll score between the mid-high teens.

carmelo anthony: if he had been selected by the pistons instead of the nuggets, he probably wouldn't have put up as many ppg in his first few years - maybe mid-high teens. that's because the pistons team mentality was team-first, and defense. the nuggets at the time were high scoring and more fast paced. melo has, however, shown he can score 20+ppg on any team in any system.


you can use stats to show capabilities, but it's an eye test and years of service when you can look at a player, to prove why your team is dominate or not.

you have to look at a player, and their respective real/hypothetical teams, holistically.

[j4remi]

I figured my squad would get dogged for lack of a strong back court, but I do think in terms of fitting pieces together I've built a strong combination to run an offense through the post.

1 - a speedy slasher who takes advantage of open lanes by getting to the rack and drawing in defenders
2 and 3 - catch and shoot players who spread the floor to create the necessary lanes as well as playing high level defense
4 - a no touches necessary hustle big who is mobile on the interior on both ends and can position for boards against off balance D's
5 - imo the toughest player to stop in one on one scenarios from post to elbow touches, with gravity that should play to every one of the other guys' strengths

I think the quality of my defense would make that group strong enough to put pressure on the majority of opponents, especially teams that focused too much on offense at the expense of defensive pieces.

[Mecca]

I figured my squad would get dogged for lack of a strong back court, but I do think in terms of fitting pieces together I've built a strong combination to run an offense through the post.

1 - a speedy slasher who takes advantage of open lanes by getting to the rack and drawing in defenders
2 and 3 - catch and shoot players who spread the floor to create the necessary lanes as well as playing high level defense
4 - a no touches necessary hustle big who is mobile on the interior on both ends and can position for boards against off balance D's
5 - imo the toughest player to stop in one on one scenarios from post to elbow touches, with gravity that should play to every one of the other guys' strengths

I think the quality of my defense would make that group strong enough to put pressure on the majority of opponents, especially teams that focused too much on offense at the expense of defensive pieces.

Remi, I'ma be honest. You know way too much about basketball to make a team this lacking in talent, despite the pieces fitting well together.

[j4remi]

I figured my squad would get dogged for lack of a strong back court, but I do think in terms of fitting pieces together I've built a strong combination to run an offense through the post.

1 - a speedy slasher who takes advantage of open lanes by getting to the rack and drawing in defenders
2 and 3 - catch and shoot players who spread the floor to create the necessary lanes as well as playing high level defense
4 - a no touches necessary hustle big who is mobile on the interior on both ends and can position for boards against off balance D's
5 - imo the toughest player to stop in one on one scenarios from post to elbow touches, with gravity that should play to every one of the other guys' strengths

I think the quality of my defense would make that group strong enough to put pressure on the majority of opponents, especially teams that focused too much on offense at the expense of defensive pieces.

Remi, I'ma be honest. You know way too much about basketball to make a team this lacking in talent, despite the pieces fitting well together.

I call BS on that. Every player in that starting line-up has an elite skill that ties in to the rest of the starters and they all compliment each other on the defensive end as well. I'm not gonna get into a crazy debate over it though, I assumed that type of mindset would come into play because defensive, grinding teams aren't too prevalent any more.

[spree8]

I figured my squad would get dogged for lack of a strong back court, but I do think in terms of fitting pieces together I've built a strong combination to run an offense through the post.

1 - a speedy slasher who takes advantage of open lanes by getting to the rack and drawing in defenders
2 and 3 - catch and shoot players who spread the floor to create the necessary lanes as well as playing high level defense
4 - a no touches necessary hustle big who is mobile on the interior on both ends and can position for boards against off balance D's
5 - imo the toughest player to stop in one on one scenarios from post to elbow touches, with gravity that should play to every one of the other guys' strengths

I think the quality of my defense would make that group strong enough to put pressure on the majority of opponents, especially teams that focused too much on offense at the expense of defensive pieces.

Cousins was the only guy I put a realistic bid on besides KD...I put $121 on him and you beat me by a buck lol.

[IllmaticHandler]

I figured my squad would get dogged for lack of a strong back court, but I do think in terms of fitting pieces together I've built a strong combination to run an offense through the post.

1 - a speedy slasher who takes advantage of open lanes by getting to the rack and drawing in defenders
2 and 3 - catch and shoot players who spread the floor to create the necessary lanes as well as playing high level defense
4 - a no touches necessary hustle big who is mobile on the interior on both ends and can position for boards against off balance D's
5 - imo the toughest player to stop in one on one scenarios from post to elbow touches, with gravity that should play to every one of the other guys' strengths

I think the quality of my defense would make that group strong enough to put pressure on the majority of opponents, especially teams that focused too much on offense at the expense of defensive pieces.

Remi, I'ma be honest. You know way too much about basketball to make a team this lacking in talent, despite the pieces fitting well together.

I call BS on that. Every player in that starting line-up has an elite skill that ties in to the rest of the starters and they all compliment each other on the defensive end as well. I'm not gonna get into a crazy debate over it though, I assumed that type of mindset would come into play because defensive, grinding teams aren't too prevalent any more.

Ricky Rubio has an Elite Skill, dont mean he is the Ideal Starting PG. There are plenty of players who have elite skills, what does that really mean when it comes down to the players overall ability. Speedy Claxston was like the fastest PG in the league...what does that really mean.

[Mecca]

I figured my squad would get dogged for lack of a strong back court, but I do think in terms of fitting pieces together I've built a strong combination to run an offense through the post.

1 - a speedy slasher who takes advantage of open lanes by getting to the rack and drawing in defenders
2 and 3 - catch and shoot players who spread the floor to create the necessary lanes as well as playing high level defense
4 - a no touches necessary hustle big who is mobile on the interior on both ends and can position for boards against off balance D's
5 - imo the toughest player to stop in one on one scenarios from post to elbow touches, with gravity that should play to every one of the other guys' strengths

I think the quality of my defense would make that group strong enough to put pressure on the majority of opponents, especially teams that focused too much on offense at the expense of defensive pieces.

Remi, I'ma be honest. You know way too much about basketball to make a team this lacking in talent, despite the pieces fitting well together.

I call BS on that. Every player in that starting line-up has an elite skill that ties in to the rest of the starters and they all compliment each other on the defensive end as well. I'm not gonna get into a crazy debate over it though, I assumed that type of mindset would come into play because defensive, grinding teams aren't too prevalent any more.

It's just the backcourt bruh. Ish Smith and Morrow asked to starters when they're best as 8th/9th men is asking a lot out of them.

[j4remi]

Cousins was the only guy I put a realistic bid on besides KD...I put $121 on him and you beat me by a buck lol.

I actually switched my bid twice. I think I started at 118 and worked my way up . It worked out for you though, one of the more balanced squads in the whole thing.

[br7knicks]

I figured my squad would get dogged for lack of a strong back court, but I do think in terms of fitting pieces together I've built a strong combination to run an offense through the post.

1 - a speedy slasher who takes advantage of open lanes by getting to the rack and drawing in defenders
2 and 3 - catch and shoot players who spread the floor to create the necessary lanes as well as playing high level defense
4 - a no touches necessary hustle big who is mobile on the interior on both ends and can position for boards against off balance D's
5 - imo the toughest player to stop in one on one scenarios from post to elbow touches, with gravity that should play to every one of the other guys' strengths

I think the quality of my defense would make that group strong enough to put pressure on the majority of opponents, especially teams that focused too much on offense at the expense of defensive pieces.

well, i think a strong backcourt isn't necessary if your SF/PF/C are play makers and can handle the ball. cousins is capable, and johnson is a high IQ player. plus, cousins is one of the better passing low post players in the NBA, so it's fine to have a ball handler who isn't ball dominate.

and ish smith proved that, if given the right teammates and system, is a capable play maker. while you may not have the big names, i'd say your team should fare well. i'm more concerned about your bench than your backcourt.

[br7knicks]

I figured my squad would get dogged for lack of a strong back court, but I do think in terms of fitting pieces together I've built a strong combination to run an offense through the post.

1 - a speedy slasher who takes advantage of open lanes by getting to the rack and drawing in defenders
2 and 3 - catch and shoot players who spread the floor to create the necessary lanes as well as playing high level defense
4 - a no touches necessary hustle big who is mobile on the interior on both ends and can position for boards against off balance D's
5 - imo the toughest player to stop in one on one scenarios from post to elbow touches, with gravity that should play to every one of the other guys' strengths

I think the quality of my defense would make that group strong enough to put pressure on the majority of opponents, especially teams that focused too much on offense at the expense of defensive pieces.

Cousins was the only guy I put a realistic bid on besides KD...I put $121 on him and you beat me by a buck lol.

i love the team i built with a core of reggie jackson-middleton-cousins. pissed i had to leave temporarily, and it was turned into one of the most talented, but worst fitting duo of blake griffin and cousins frontcourt. my team went from one of the best, to the biggest head scratching lotto teams during that BAT

[j4remi]

It's just the backcourt bruh. Ish Smith and Morrow asked to starters when they're best as 8th/9th men is asking a lot out of them.

Ish Smith has offensive talent period, point blank. He put up 15 and 7 with Philly when he got his minutes and that team was devoid of quality help outside of Okafor and Covington. Even with NO he was putting up 12 and 6 in 22 mins, so it's not like that's an outlier from being on a crappy. He produces. His issue is on the other end but with Morrow/Carroll/Amir/Cousins behind him, that problem is sufficiently mitigated. Morrow is essentially doing the Courtney Lee role, hit threes and play defense. It's a unit built around a center piece in the middle, not to garner balanced contributions all around.

[j4remi]

well, i think a strong backcourt isn't necessary if your SF/PF/C are play makers and can handle the ball. cousins is capable, and johnson is a high IQ player. plus, cousins is one of the better passing low post players in the NBA, so it's fine to have a ball handler who isn't ball dominate.

and ish smith proved that, if given the right teammates and system, is a capable play maker. while you may not have the big names, i'd say your team should fare well. i'm more concerned about your bench than your backcourt.

Yeah, I can't really defend my bench. I think Markel has more to give with an expanded role and I'm high on Labisserie, but both are pure speculation and overall I wound up with a lack of depth.