Around the NBA Thread 2016-17

[Asian Celtic]

Yes, they are. Maybe top 5 fanbase in volume worldwide.

I love Pierce's passion. Dude couldn't look more content!

And is Yi's chair in that picture?

Is pierce still under contract? I wish he'd play 1 more season back to the c's and end his career here.

[165bows]

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No chance at trading for Harden now, I'd say that's relatively good for us. If Harden keeps up until 2020, his next contract will be albatross.

The extension was a smart move for a bunch of teams.

Realistically though this is a little overblown, it only adds one guaranteed year to his deal.

Is it possible for the Celtics to offer extentions to Bradley/Thomas to pay them more this year, but lock them into the future? Ideally, do the anti-Wade and pay them more now as opposed to later when we need the cap room more.

Extension/renegotiation type deals can only happen after the third year of a contract. Could do next year though I suppose.

[galipeautim]

The extension was a smart move for a bunch of teams.

Realistically though this is a little overblown, it only adds one guaranteed year to his deal.

Is it possible for the Celtics to offer extentions to Bradley/Thomas to pay them more this year, but lock them into the future? Ideally, do the anti-Wade and pay them more now as opposed to later when we need the cap room more.

Extension/renegotiation type deals can only happen after the third year of a contract. Could do next year though I suppose.

yeah, just trying to see if there's any long term use for our extra cap space. Sounds like it's not really possible.

[claycarver]

Is it possible for the Celtics to offer extentions to Bradley/Thomas to pay them more this year, but lock them into the future? Ideally, do the anti-Wade and pay them more now as opposed to later when we need the cap room more.

Extension/renegotiation type deals can only happen after the third year of a contract. Could do next year though I suppose.

yeah, just trying to see if there's any long term use for our extra cap space. Sounds like it's not really possible.

Good thought. That would have been a great use of our extra money.

[galipeautim]

Is it possible for the Celtics to offer extentions to Bradley/Thomas to pay them more this year, but lock them into the future? Ideally, do the anti-Wade and pay them more now as opposed to later when we need the cap room more.

Extension/renegotiation type deals can only happen after the third year of a contract. Could do next year though I suppose.

yeah, just trying to see if there's any long term use for our extra cap space. Sounds like it's not really possible.

Looks like we are presently at 77.5 million, which would become 84.5 if we bring back Zeller and Sully and 86.5 if we sign Yabusuele on top of that. That leaves us between 8.5 million and 17.5 million in cap space. Would love for that money to go in a wink wink agreement with one of our current guys as opposed to signinga guy for one year.

As it stands, we have some decisions to make. It doesn't make sense to roster both Young and Hunter. We could still use more wing depth or a backup point guard and neither of those guys seems like they will get minutes. If we take them off the 15 man roster they can be signed elsewhere.

[galipeautim]

Extension/renegotiation type deals can only happen after the third year of a contract. Could do next year though I suppose.

yeah, just trying to see if there's any long term use for our extra cap space. Sounds like it's not really possible.

Good thought. That would have been a great use of our extra money.

yeah unfortunately it seems the same thing that helps us (Bradley and Thomas' contracts go for two more years) keeps us from making a move like this.
On the bright side, we have a ton of cap space next year regardless and I can almost guarantee Hayward comes to town if we can't land somebody better.

[claycarver]

yeah, just trying to see if there's any long term use for our extra cap space. Sounds like it's not really possible.

Good thought. That would have been a great use of our extra money.

yeah unfortunately it seems the same thing that helps us (Bradley and Thomas' contracts go for two more years) keeps us from making a move like this.
On the bright side, we have a ton of cap space next year regardless and I can almost guarantee Hayward comes to town if we can't land somebody better.

A Hayward would fit nicely on this team but it would be great if we had enough cap room to sign him and big to pair with Horford in the future.

edit: If Zizic can become a Kanter level big, we're in really good shape.

[BannersOnly]

Towns. Wiggins. Dunn. What was that again about tanking never working??????? I'm sure Minny would trade 2 of those guys for a couple of 1st rd playoff ass whoopings the last two years, right?

[pac213up]

Towns. Wiggins. Dunn. What was that again about tanking never working??????? I'm sure Minny would trade 2 of those guys for a couple of 1st rd playoff ass whoopings the last two years, right?

It will be years before we know if it worked. The goal is to compete/win titles. That group has done nothing to suggest that will happen.

[BannersOnly]

Towns. Wiggins. Dunn. What was that again about tanking never working??????? I'm sure Minny would trade 2 of those guys for a couple of 1st rd playoff ass whoopings the last two years, right?

It will be years before we know if it worked. The goal is to compete/win titles. That group has done nothing to suggest that will happen.

would you trade rosters with them right now? Yes or no?

[pac213up]

Towns. Wiggins. Dunn. What was that again about tanking never working??????? I'm sure Minny would trade 2 of those guys for a couple of 1st rd playoff ass whoopings the last two years, right?

It will be years before we know if it worked. The goal is to compete/win titles. That group has done nothing to suggest that will happen.

would you trade rosters with them right now? Yes or no?

With the supporting players and assets the Celtics have....not a chance.

[BannersOnly]

It will be years before we know if it worked. The goal is to compete/win titles. That group has done nothing to suggest that will happen.

would you trade rosters with them right now? Yes or no?

With the supporting players and assets the Celtics have....not a chance.

Crazy. Towns alone is worth at least the Top 3 players on our roster nevermind draft picks. When he reaches his prime he's going to be a legit ALL-NBA caliber big man. And that's before we even start discussing what Wiggins and Dunn are worth.

[freddiebutch]

Towns. Wiggins. Dunn. What was that again about tanking never working??????? I'm sure Minny would trade 2 of those guys for a couple of 1st rd playoff ass whoopings the last two years, right?

Did it work for Philly? Did it work for LAL? Nope.

Yea it worked for Minny. What's your point? Teams can get lucky. Doesn't mean it would have for Boston. Would I trade rosters with philly or LA? Hell no. And they've led the tanking brigade for three years now.

[pac213up]

would you trade rosters with them right now? Yes or no?

With the supporting players and assets the Celtics have....not a chance.

Crazy. Towns alone is worth at least the Top 3 players on our roster nevermind draft picks. When he reaches his prime he's going to be a legit ALL-NBA caliber big man. And that's before we even start discussing what Wiggins and Dunn are worth.

More than likely some other team will benefit from the Twolves developing that talent. The Celtics are in a much better position. Either way it is far too early to say the Twolves tank was successful. Lets see them down the road in a year or two.

[BannersOnly]

With the supporting players and assets the Celtics have....not a chance.

Crazy. Towns alone is worth at least the Top 3 players on our roster nevermind draft picks. When he reaches his prime he's going to be a legit ALL-NBA caliber big man. And that's before we even start discussing what Wiggins and Dunn are worth.

More than likely some other team will benefit from the Twolves developing that talent. The Celtics are in a much better position. Either way it is far too early to say the Twolves tank was successful. Lets see them down the road in a year or two.

Much better position??????? Based on what? Minnesota has 3 yong STUDS all on rookie contracts, a proven NBA head coach and some nice players on their bench too. They are in a great position. Put the homer glasses down.

[Cornbread]

Crazy. Towns alone is worth at least the Top 3 players on our roster nevermind draft picks. When he reaches his prime he's going to be a legit ALL-NBA caliber big man. And that's before we even start discussing what Wiggins and Dunn are worth.

More than likely some other team will benefit from the Twolves developing that talent. The Celtics are in a much better position. Either way it is far too early to say the Twolves tank was successful. Lets see them down the road in a year or two.

Much better position??????? Based on what? Minnesota has 3 yong STUDS all on rookie contracts, a proven NBA head coach and some nice players on their bench too. They are in a great position. Put the homer glasses down.

Come back when they actually win something.

I love Minny's young core, but they've had a lot of luck to get those guys that you just can't count on. Plus, youre really only talking about Towns because we could have had Dunn. And Wiggins, while very good, isn't a player you lose sleep over not getting.

[greenpierce]

Its really irrelevant what we would do. It's whether the owners would have given up all the revenue they would have lost for being in that process. While as fans it's nice to look at those pretty gems the Wolves have amassed, think about how long they've been working at it since they traded us Garnett. That's SO much real success and cash they have lost!

Real world...Wyc never does that. Ever, ever.

[pac213up]

Crazy. Towns alone is worth at least the Top 3 players on our roster nevermind draft picks. When he reaches his prime he's going to be a legit ALL-NBA caliber big man. And that's before we even start discussing what Wiggins and Dunn are worth.

More than likely some other team will benefit from the Twolves developing that talent. The Celtics are in a much better position. Either way it is far too early to say the Twolves tank was successful. Lets see them down the road in a year or two.

Much better position??????? Based on what? Minnesota has 3 yong STUDS all on rookie contracts, a proven NBA head coach and some nice players on their bench too. They are in a great position. Put the homer glasses down.

Homer position...really that is the best you can come up with. The TWolves have ONE stud, one possible, and an unproven rookie that has not played one game in the NBA.

The Celtics have TWO All-Stars, 1 NBA All-Defensive Player, two other elite defensive studs and probably the best young coach in the game. Beyond that they have the #3 pick from this year and another top 5 pick next year, as well as some young kids that could develop nicely. Oh...and they still have cap room to add elite talent in next seasons FA pool without losing any of the above.

[truth18]

Its really irrelevant what we would do. It's whether the owners would have given up all the revenue they would have lost for being in that process. While as fans it's nice to look at those pretty gems the Wolves have amassed, think about how long they've been working at it since they traded us Garnett. That's SO much real success and cash they have lost!

Real world...Wyc never does that. Ever, ever.

I was never a tanker or an antitanker, I stood somewhere in the middle in that I can't root for my team to lose, but recognized the appeal of a stronger draft for us.

That said, I always found SOME "tankers" notion that it was Danny (Thomas) or Brad (his comments on tanking) ruining our tank by making a half measure ridiculous. Imo, it was, and will always be Wyc that is the influence behind such choices.

[truth18]

Wait are we really arguing that we are in a better position than the Wolves?

Because we aren't. I swap our rosters (love Thibs but can we keep Brad ) all day.