Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 6

[TGW]

Manu got offered a 2 year/30MM deal from the Sixers...I guess the Spurs' hand was forced.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

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Photoshopped or not, that's hilarious

Look at the two Gatorades. Both are the same size in reality. They tell how much it has been Photoshopped. Ditto for the microphones.

[gambitx777]

What are the C's doing trying to getting blake. when the have horford

[LyricalRico]

Kind of feel good about Manu's seeming to get a bit of a golden parachute after he sacrificed money, minutes, and stats to help keep that team together over the years. Heckuva player.

Yeah a nice gesture by the Spurs. It could well pay off for them in the long run - in terms of getting team friendly deals in the future.

I saw a report later by Woj that SA actually started with a $3M offer. But apparently Philly offered him a 2 year deal with up to $17M guaranteed in the first year (not sure about the second). So the Spurs more than quadrupled their original offer, and Manu once again gave up some money to stay. Shows what's possible if both sides are willing to give because $$$ isn't the most important thing in the relationship. Just classy all the way around.

[dckingsfan]

So, Saric is in for this season. They add Saric and Simmons. That is a really good set of forwards going forward.

[Ruzious]

So, Saric is in for this season. They add Saric and Simmons. That is a really good set of forwards going forward.

Just gotta wonder if their players fit. Is Covington still their one front court player who can hit a jump shot?

They really need to trade one of the frontcourt kids for a guard.

[FAH1223]

Kind of feel good about Manu's seeming to get a bit of a golden parachute after he sacrificed money, minutes, and stats to help keep that team together over the years. Heckuva player.

Yeah a nice gesture by the Spurs. It could well pay off for them in the long run - in terms of getting team friendly deals in the future.

Spurs initially offered Ginobili a 1 year, $3mil deal.

76ers then offered him a 2 year, $30+mil deal.

Spurs countered w/ 1 year, $14mil.

[payitforward]

So, Saric is in for this season. They add Saric and Simmons. That is a really good set of forwards going forward.

They could get very much better very quickly. And then the detestable Colangelos will get the credit for what Hinkie did!

[DCZards]

So, Saric is in for this season. They add Saric and Simmons. That is a really good set of forwards going forward.

They could get very much better very quickly. And then the detestable Colangelos will get the credit for what Hinkie did!

The 76ers will indeed be getting much better. Simmons is going to be a stud. But I don't know how quickly it will happen. According to Fraschilla, Saric is a good role player (nothing more), who, like Simmons, is not a good shooter. On top of that, Philly lost its best PG to free agency--Ish Smith.

[Ruzious]

So, Saric is in for this season. They add Saric and Simmons. That is a really good set of forwards going forward.

They could get very much better very quickly. And then the detestable Colangelos will get the credit for what Hinkie did!

The 76ers will indeed be getting much better. Simmons is going to be a stud. But I don't know how quickly it will happen. According to Fraschilla, Saric is a good role player (nothing more), who, like Simmons, is not a good shooter. On top of that, Philly lost its best PG to free agency--Ish Smith.

They're still going to be a bottom 5 team this season - and then who knows? At some point, they need to acquire a backcourt. They have assets to acquire guards, but until they actually do that, they'll continue to lose a lot more than they win.

[Illuminaire]

I'll trade them Bradley Beal for Covington, Saric, and their unprotected pick.

[dckingsfan]

So, Saric is in for this season. They add Saric and Simmons. That is a really good set of forwards going forward.

They could get very much better very quickly. And then the detestable Colangelos will get the credit for what Hinkie did!

The 76ers will indeed be getting much better. Simmons is going to be a stud. But I don't know how quickly it will happen. According to Fraschilla, Saric is a good role player (nothing more), who, like Simmons, is not a good shooter. On top of that, Philly lost its best PG to free agency--Ish Smith.

Ummm, Saric shot .407 from 3 point range last season... Fraschilla must have missed this one... but they are going to have trouble with their shooting in general. If one of the Cs develops a good back to the basket game - it might open up the outside shooting.

[pcbothwel]

They could get very much better very quickly. And then the detestable Colangelos will get the credit for what Hinkie did!

The 76ers will indeed be getting much better. Simmons is going to be a stud. But I don't know how quickly it will happen. According to Fraschilla, Saric is a good role player (nothing more), who, like Simmons, is not a good shooter. On top of that, Philly lost its best PG to free agency--Ish Smith.

Ummm, Saric shot .407 from 3 point range last season... Fraschilla must have missed this one... but they are going to have trouble with their shooting in general. If one of the Cs develops a good back to the basket game - it might open up the outside shooting.

I'd be careful about the 3Pt% of Euro bigs. My main concern would be that not only is the 3 pt line shorter, but they dont have the lengthy athletes there that can defend the 3. Guys like Ariza and Oubre are very rare overseas. I'd also point out that Saric shot 30% from 3 the two previous years, so who really knows.

Mirotic was a 40% 3pt shooter in Europe, but only shot 31% his first year with the Bulls. Now, he shot 39% last year so this year will give a better indicator.

Satoransky shot 40% from 3 the last three years, but I wouldn't assume that he'll shoot that here. I'll assume 34-35% from him as a 10-15% reduction seems about fair.

[Ruzious]

They could get very much better very quickly. And then the detestable Colangelos will get the credit for what Hinkie did!

The 76ers will indeed be getting much better. Simmons is going to be a stud. But I don't know how quickly it will happen. According to Fraschilla, Saric is a good role player (nothing more), who, like Simmons, is not a good shooter. On top of that, Philly lost its best PG to free agency--Ish Smith.

Ummm, Saric shot .407 from 3 point range last season... Fraschilla must have missed this one... but they are going to have trouble with their shooting in general. If one of the Cs develops a good back to the basket game - it might open up the outside shooting.

Okafor is as good a low post back to the basket scorer as you'll find - as long as you ignore his turnovers. But that kind of offense has gone the way of the pterodactyl and brachiosaurus.

[dckingsfan]

The 76ers will indeed be getting much better. Simmons is going to be a stud. But I don't know how quickly it will happen. According to Fraschilla, Saric is a good role player (nothing more), who, like Simmons, is not a good shooter. On top of that, Philly lost its best PG to free agency--Ish Smith.

Ummm, Saric shot .407 from 3 point range last season... Fraschilla must have missed this one... but they are going to have trouble with their shooting in general. If one of the Cs develops a good back to the basket game - it might open up the outside shooting.

I'd be careful about the 3Pt% of Euro bigs. My main concern would be that not only is the 3 pt line shorter, but they dont have the lengthy athletes there that can defend the 3. Guys like Ariza and Oubre are very rare overseas. I'd also point out that Saric shot 30% from 3 the two previous years, so who really knows.

Mirotic was a 40% 3pt shooter in Europe, but only shot 31% his first year with the Bulls. Now, he shot 39% last year so this year will give a better indicator.

Satoransky shot 40% from 3 the last three years, but I wouldn't assume that he'll shoot that here. I'll assume 34-35% from him as a 10-15% reduction seems about fair.

Umm, so taking Mirotic, you are saying that there is an adjustment period and then they shoot like they did in Europe. Okay.

[dckingsfan]

The 76ers will indeed be getting much better. Simmons is going to be a stud. But I don't know how quickly it will happen. According to Fraschilla, Saric is a good role player (nothing more), who, like Simmons, is not a good shooter. On top of that, Philly lost its best PG to free agency--Ish Smith.

Ummm, Saric shot .407 from 3 point range last season... Fraschilla must have missed this one... but they are going to have trouble with their shooting in general. If one of the Cs develops a good back to the basket game - it might open up the outside shooting.

Okafor is as good a low post back to the basket scorer as you'll find - as long as you ignore his turnovers. But that kind of offense has gone the way of the pterodactyl and brachiosaurus.

Well, there is that...

[payitforward]

So, Saric is in for this season. They add Saric and Simmons. That is a really good set of forwards going forward.

They could get very much better very quickly. And then the detestable Colangelos will get the credit for what Hinkie did!

The 76ers will indeed be getting much better. Simmons is going to be a stud. But I don't know how quickly it will happen. According to Fraschilla, Saric is a good role player (nothing more), who, like Simmons, is not a good shooter. On top of that, Philly lost its best PG to free agency--Ish Smith.

I think Simmons will play a lot of point guard. And, if you watched any SL this month you know that T. J. McConnell looks to be the real deal as a PG.

OTOH, I don't know how quickly it'll happen either! But... man that's a lot of talent on the Philly roster. And, if Embiid is what I remember him being, they could be a handful pretty quickly. Still, a lot of things have to happen in a hurry for them to challenge for the playoffs this year. Not impossible, however.

[payitforward]

The 76ers will indeed be getting much better. Simmons is going to be a stud. But I don't know how quickly it will happen. According to Fraschilla, Saric is a good role player (nothing more), who, like Simmons, is not a good shooter. On top of that, Philly lost its best PG to free agency--Ish Smith.

Ummm, Saric shot .407 from 3 point range last season... Fraschilla must have missed this one... but they are going to have trouble with their shooting in general. If one of the Cs develops a good back to the basket game - it might open up the outside shooting.

Okafor is as good a low post back to the basket scorer as you'll find - as long as you ignore his turnovers. But that kind of offense has gone the way of the pterodactyl and brachiosaurus.

Are those last two guys Euro players, Ruz?

[dckingsfan]

They could get very much better very quickly. And then the detestable Colangelos will get the credit for what Hinkie did!

The 76ers will indeed be getting much better. Simmons is going to be a stud. But I don't know how quickly it will happen. According to Fraschilla, Saric is a good role player (nothing more), who, like Simmons, is not a good shooter. On top of that, Philly lost its best PG to free agency--Ish Smith.

I think Simmons will play a lot of point guard. And, if you watched any SL this month you know that T. J. McConnell looks to be the real deal as a PG.

OTOH, I don't know how quickly it'll happen either! But... man that's a lot of talent on the Philly roster. And, if Embiid is what I remember him being, they could be a handful pretty quickly. Still, a lot of things have to happen in a hurry for them to challenge for the playoffs this year. Not impossible, however.

Yep, if they have Simmons run the point forward and get guards that are 3&D from a trade for one or two of their bigs, they are going to be a handful over time.

[Ruzious]

I'm a fan of the 2 dumbest teams in the NBA. Milwaukee signs Miles Plumlee to 4/52. They had also singed Delladova for 4/38. These are good hustle players, but they're strictly backup types. Yes, the cap went up a lot, but that doesn't mean you spend well over 10% of it for each 15 minute a game player!