A lot of Celtics Trash rumors part 3

greenroom31 · Post #381 » by **greenroom31** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:27 pm

Smitty731 wrote:Also, I should have added this:

I am in no way saying this is happening 100% or anything. I'm just sharing what I have heard. What got my interest piqued was hearing about the vet FAs. That part hadn't really entered my thinking much.

Yeah highly suspicious about specifics of the trade packages but the broad strokes are what's most interesting (i.e. Pursuing Westbrook AND Griffin).

Also, Deveney mentioned the FA angle on the podcast with Jay King, and I thought that was a great point.

FlatearthZorro · Post #382 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:28 pm

Yea, I hope this happens. I'm not going to get my hopes too high

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And I guess B Bass would sign with us for the vet min. He loves it here, the fans like him and honestly he's a likeable guy, played for the team at a somewhat rebuilding stage, but a very serviceable bench big, who can do a little of everything.

Post #383 » by **Smitty731** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:29 pm

FWIW, I have no sources directly with the Celtics. I believe others here do, but I do not. And no, that is not a CYA move. I really don't.

DK-All Day · Post #384 » by **DK-All Day** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:29 pm

I refuse to get excited.

Spoiler:

Andrew McCeltic · Post #385 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:29 pm

Smitty731 wrote:And, personal opinion, you guys who think giving up both Brooklyn picks to get Russ and Blake is too much are nuts. 100% nuts. There is about a 1% chance either of the BRK picks becomes better than Russ or Blake. You would have to convinced they aren't staying to consider that too much.

It's not that, it's both the Brooklyn picks, Smart, and Jaylen. Need to keep Jaylen and one of the other assets.

BlackThatch · Post #386 » by **BlackThatch** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:29 pm

Which one of you idiots is posting this on Twitter?

Post #387 » by **Smitty731** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:30 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:And, personal opinion, you guys who think giving up both Brooklyn picks to get Russ and Blake is too much are nuts. 100% nuts. There is about a 1% chance either of the BRK picks becomes better than Russ or Blake. You would have to convinced they aren't staying to consider that too much.

It's not that, it's both the Brooklyn picks, Smart, and Jaylen. Need to keep Jaylen and one of the other assets.

For two top 10 players in the league, you do it every single time. Every single time.

Disinformation · Post #388 » by **Disinformation** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:30 pm

Smitty731 wrote:And, personal opinion, you guys who think giving up both Brooklyn picks to get Russ and Blake is too much are nuts. 100% nuts. There is about a 1% chance either of the BRK picks becomes better than Russ or Blake. You would have to convinced they aren't staying to consider that too much.

Agreed, but have you heard any indication of whether Westbrook would so a 1 year extension (a la that one article that showed how he could get good money doing that) or Griffin would agree to pick up his Player Option (or not execute his ETO, I can't remember which he has)?

sam_I_am · Post #389 » by **sam_I_am** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:30 pm

The alternative of trade nothing, draft top 3 again and sign Blake or Westbrook as FA is looking pretty good too. In that scenario you have last year's core plus IT, Horford, Max FA plus a developing future of Smart, Brown, and let's say Giles.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #390 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:30 pm

It's not about getting better players, about keeping trade flexibility. It took Cleveland a year and a half of playing Twister to fix their roster problems, and in the end they never really did.

Green89 · Post #391 » by **Green89** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:30 pm

CSNNE said no big deals are in the works. Then again, they said nothing was happening in the days leading up to getting KG.

Post #392 » by **Smitty731** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:30 pm

If you post it on Twitter, don't tie it back to me please. If you do, this will be the last time I will post anything like this on this board.

And that way you can credit yourself.

BigTrade92 · Post #393 » by **BigTrade92** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:31 pm

Get Westbrook AND Griffin without giving up either Bradley or Crowder? Seems tough to believe we'd be able to keep one of those guys, let alone both.

But if so...

Westbrook
Bradley
Crowder
Griffin
Horford
and Thomas off the bench
:droop:

HOLY F******G S***T

rob4748 · Post #394 » by **rob4748** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:31 pm

Smitty731 wrote:FWIW, I have no sources directly with the Celtics. I believe others here do, but I do not. And no, that is not a CYA move. I really don't.

That's fair. You would think with all this smoke there would eventually be fire. I'm sure you've been told rumors before, has there ever been a situation like this where you kept hearing the same information/rumours for something that never ended up happening?

Super interesting stuff Smitty.

ZeroTolerance · Post #395 » by **ZeroTolerance** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:31 pm

Smitty731 wrote:And, personal opinion, you guys who think giving up both Brooklyn picks to get Russ and Blake is too much are nuts. 100% nuts. There is about a 1% chance either of the BRK picks becomes better than Russ or Blake. You would have to convinced they aren't staying to consider that too much.

And zero chance that this BS produces a winner. It's one injury away from a bust!

And Griffin could end up being another Raef LaFrentz. :crazy:

Gulfwang · Post #396 » by **Gulfwang** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:31 pm

Ive been lurking this thread for the past few days because of Smittys rumors, not a Celtics fan, but if this happens it will be craziest trade Ive ever seen

Post #397 » by **Smitty731** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:32 pm

rob4748 wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:FWIW, I have no sources directly with the Celtics. I believe others here do, but I do not. And no, that is not a CYA move. I really don't.

That's fair. You would think with all this smoke there would eventually be fire. I'm sure you've been told rumors before, has there ever been a situation like this where you kept hearing the same information/rumours for something that never ended up happening?

Super interesting stuff Smitty.

No, but I am very new at this. The only two things I was rock solid on that happened were the Durant stuff and the Magic thinking very little of Tobias Harris and regretting the contract they gave him.

Oh and I got the Sullinger stuff first, but that was just a matter of checking the transaction wire before anyone else.

Green89 · Post #398 » by **Green89** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:33 pm

Smitty731 wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:And, personal opinion, you guys who think giving up both Brooklyn picks to get Russ and Blake is too much are nuts. 100% nuts. There is about a 1% chance either of the BRK picks becomes better than Russ or Blake. You would have to convinced they aren't staying to consider that too much.

It's not that, it's both the Brooklyn picks, Smart, and Jaylen. Need to keep Jaylen and one of the other assets.

For two top 10 players in the league, you do it every single time. Every single time.

Agreed. There's no need to worry about assets and young prospects when you can make a deal to become an instant contender. You win titles with stars. This deal puts us in strong contention to make the finals. Why wait 3-4 years for that when we don't have to.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #399 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:34 pm

Smitty731 wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:
Smitty731 wrote:And, personal opinion, you guys who think giving up both Brooklyn picks to get Russ and Blake is too much are nuts. 100% nuts. There is about a 1% chance either of the BRK picks becomes better than Russ or Blake. You would have to convinced they aren't staying to consider that too much.

It's not that, it's both the Brooklyn picks, Smart, and Jaylen. Need to keep Jaylen and one of the other assets.

For two top 10 players in the league, you do it every single time. Every single time.

Hard to argue with that, but being blinded by star power is dangerous.

For one thing, '17 may not have a Griffin, but it'll be a Westbrook at worst..

Smog · Post #400 » by **Smog** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:34 pm

Guys, no offense, but this rumor makes no sense at all. OKC dumping Westbrook, totally understandable. They almost have to rebuild. But it makes zero sense from the Clips' standpoint. The only way this rumor makes sense is if this is actually a three-way deal bringing Russ to the Clips and Blake to Boston and picks to OKC. The Clippers are behind GSW obviously but they're still a win-now team with three big stars. Chris Paul will bolt if they deal Blake for anyone who isn't at least as good. And Russ is one of the few guys who fits that description. It'd be an odd backcourt, but Russ is really a 2 anyway. Just think: why would LAC trade for Amir or even Jaylen Brown? They need to win right now.