Miami Heat 2016 Offseason Thread; "It will be fun in July"- July-er(Part XIII)

[Sgt P]

It has cost him.

Get back to me in 5 years.

Get off Wade's sacks....
I am disappointed, you are usually a great poster.... Heat forum not Wade,
he left man... his choice... and it cost Wade too

It done already, if FO is stuck like some we might as well sell the team to Seattle

I did say that it cost Wade too.

It's the off-season we can dwell on the biggest thing to happen this off-season until the games actually start can't we?

You want me to start writing about my love for McBob already?

music to my bleeding ears.... hate offseasons like this... no quik fixes

[twix2500]

I think there are two scenarios that the Heat need to happen for things not to get any worse in regards to Bosh. Doctors do not clear him snd he retires. I doubt doctors will not clear him. If he hasn't developed a new clot then there is no reason to declare him unfit to play in a few months. Otherwise they can make that determination now. Remember the blood clots are a symptom. So whatever causing the clots, if known, is enough to determine if he can play without waiting 6 months.

Second scenario, Bosh stays completely healthy for an complete season. Now the Heat should have playoff teams interested in trading for him next summer. I think this is the most plausible scenario. Without any new set back I do not see any reason why he will not be cleared to play.

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[Prince Ali]

Nobody is trading for Bosh even if he gets through a season healthy. The blood clot threat will always be there.

[PizzaLord305]

We're stuck with Boshy Bear and his possible clots, yalllll.

[KingDavid]

I think there are two scenarios that the Heat need to happen for things not to get any worse in regards to Bosh. Doctors do not clear him snd he retires. I doubt doctors will not clear him. If he hasn't developed a new clot then there is no reason to declare him unfit to play in a few months. Otherwise they can make that determination now. Remember the blood clots are a symptom. So whatever causing the clots, if known, is enough to determine if he can play without waiting 6 months.

Second scenario, Bosh stays completely healthy for an complete season. Now the Heat should have playoff teams interested in trading for him next summer. I think this is the most plausible scenario. Without any new set back I do not see any reason why he will not be cleared to play.

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We're better off trying to amnesty Bosh when those provisions are given out. If Bosh can play half a season, then he kind of doesn't have a need to retire and the team should not push him to retire. He can medically retire, then come back to another team for like, the minimum, play 25 games for them, then his salary kicks back in against our cap.

[Flash4thewin]

I think there are two scenarios that the Heat need to happen for things not to get any worse in regards to Bosh. Doctors do not clear him snd he retires. I doubt doctors will not clear him. If he hasn't developed a new clot then there is no reason to declare him unfit to play in a few months. Otherwise they can make that determination now. Remember the blood clots are a symptom. So whatever causing the clots, if known, is enough to determine if he can play without waiting 6 months.

Second scenario, Bosh stays completely healthy for an complete season. Now the Heat should have playoff teams interested in trading for him next summer. I think this is the most plausible scenario. Without any new set back I do not see any reason why he will not be cleared to play.

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We're better off trying to amnesty Bosh when those provisions are given out. If Bosh can play half a season, then he kind of doesn't have a need to retire and the team should not push him to retire. He can medically retire, then come back to another team for like, the minimum, play 25 games for them, then his salary kicks back in against our cap.

Lebron is just dying for that opportunity. Business is business and just like Pat would show no mercy i expect others to do the same exact thing to us.

For us i wish Pat wakes the bleep up and lets Bosh play if he is cleared. No need to make this a legal battle. Understand that Bosh will not come off the books for next offseason but the year after that with the new cba. Losing Lebron , losing Wade and now fighting to keep Bosh off the court is someone begging to get fired.

[Flash4thewin]

The PA stepped back a bit because Bosh was still on thinners, and it was a short timeline to operate on.

This is definitely headed to a **** storm, because it's pretty clear what the FO is doing, and Bosh's health is only one consideration.

The NBAPA will definitely go to bat for an off thinners "healthy" Bosh

I really do doubt it. If they do that means that CB really is perfectly fine and the Heat are doing wrong by him. In which case he should be allowed to come back. He obviously loves the game of basketball. That should never be wrongly taken away from someone.

With that said are the Heat worried about their own interests? Of course but at the same time can the players association guarantee that Bosh will be perfectly fine even after 2 separate instances of blood clots? I don't think so and because of that I don't think they will stick their neck out because this blowing up in the media, them pushing for CB to be allowed to play again, and him getting a life threatening 3rd recurrence of blood clots will fall on them.

They don't want that almost as much as we don't. I fully expect CB to kick up a **** storm but I don't think he'll have their backing.

[Flash4thewin]

The PA stepped back a bit because Bosh was still on thinners, and it was a short timeline to operate on.

This is definitely headed to a **** storm, because it's pretty clear what the FO is doing, and Bosh's health is only one consideration.

The NBAPA will definitely go to bat for an off thinners "healthy" Bosh

I really do doubt it. If they do that means that CB really is perfectly fine and the Heat are doing wrong by him. In which case he should be allowed to come back. He obviously loves the game of basketball. That should never be wrongly taken away from someone.

With that said are the Heat worried about their own interests? Of course but at the same time can the players association guarantee that Bosh will be perfectly fine even after 2 separate instances of blood clots? I don't think so and because of that I don't think they will stick their neck out because this blowing up in the media, them pushing for CB to be allowed to play again, and him getting a life threatening 3rd recurrence of blood clots will fall on them.

They don't want that almost as much as we don't. I fully expect CB to kick up a **** storm but I don't think he'll have their backing.

But this is a pointless fight we should not be fighting. Bosh will be amnesty in the next Cba which is next year. So what we have Bosh salary on the books this offseason, its not like at worse case we cant trade players? This is a stupid fight.

[HIF]

play him. every game.

[KingDavid]

I think there are two scenarios that the Heat need to happen for things not to get any worse in regards to Bosh. Doctors do not clear him snd he retires. I doubt doctors will not clear him. If he hasn't developed a new clot then there is no reason to declare him unfit to play in a few months. Otherwise they can make that determination now. Remember the blood clots are a symptom. So whatever causing the clots, if known, is enough to determine if he can play without waiting 6 months.

Second scenario, Bosh stays completely healthy for an complete season. Now the Heat should have playoff teams interested in trading for him next summer. I think this is the most plausible scenario. Without any new set back I do not see any reason why he will not be cleared to play.

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We're better off trying to amnesty Bosh when those provisions are given out. If Bosh can play half a season, then he kind of doesn't have a need to retire and the team should not push him to retire. He can medically retire, then come back to another team for like, the minimum, play 25 games for them, then his salary kicks back in against our cap.

Lebron is just dying for that opportunity. Business is business and just like Pat would show no mercy i expect others to do the same exact thing to us.

For us i wish Pat wakes the bleep up and lets Bosh play if he is cleared. No need to make this a legal battle. Understand that Bosh will not come off the books for next offseason but the year after that with the new cba. Losing Lebron , losing Wade and now fighting to keep Bosh off the court is someone begging to get fired.

Lebron was already out the door. Can't hold that against Riley...or maybe you can? Idk. He's gone now.

He didn't mess up just for letting Wade walk. He messed for letting Wade walk for nothing.

Bosh's health has nothing to do with Pat Riley. Team doctors are not willing to risk their hard earned licenses and great paying careers to clear Bosh. They have a strict protocol to follow.

[KingDavid]

With Bosh it's simply; no clots and not playing within a thinning cycle (like during the playoffs). Otherwise, he will be cleared to play this season until the clots come back (hopefully not).

[krikor]

no one trading for bosh.

[islandHEAT]

With Bosh it's simply; no clots and not playing within a thinning cycle (like during the playoffs). Otherwise, he will be cleared to play this season until the clots come back (hopefully not).

This.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Just don't let Bosh play....if the union or whoever finally forces our hand then so be it. No way the Heat should voluntarily let him play and re-set that retirement clock.

[Rich2Hassan]

Ugh, i wish we would've let him walk to Houston 2 years ago.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Ugh, i wish we would've let him walk to Houston 2 years ago.

LeBron sabotaged the front office...by the time he made his "return" official (even though the decision had been made much earlier) there was nothing left to go after in Free Agency and Riley panicked.

[Vertical Limit]

If the Heat play Bosh that means theyre almost certain theyll have an amnesty option soon.

Its a very tricky situation for both sides. First Bosh obviously wants all of his 70 million remaining, who wouldnt... But there might be an amnesty clause involved which he will be the likely candidate to get slapped with it. Lots here think it will be TJ, yeah right, Bosh and his condition is the top, second, third, fourth and fifth candidate.

So bosh has to figure out how to collect all that money. And a medical retirement will fully guarantee his contract to be paid to him.

The Heat side is very tricky too, you need to get a lot of doctors lined up and in agreement about Bosh's condition. You have to figure out why are the Bucks comfortable with giving Mirza Teletovic a 3 year 30 million contract and how that differs from Bosh's condition. You cant scare other players away from the organization, you cant force someone into retirement because that will give you a public lashing like no other.

[Mars]

...The Heat side is very tricky too, you need to get a lot of doctors lined up and in agreement about Bosh's condition. You have to figure out why are the Bucks comfortable with giving Mirza Teletovic a 3 year 30 million contract and how that differs from Bosh's condition...

Teletovic has only dealt with blood clots once. It can be explained away as an isolated incident.

I'm assuming the HEAT argument would be that Bosh has now dealt with the condition twice, in consecutive years, at the exact same point of the season. This after doctors had diagnosed that he didn't carry the hereditary gene that would make him predisposed to a recurrence of blood clots.

[eddieheatfan]

You're not that stupid Riles.

You are, in fact, one of the cleverest basketball minds ever.

Your Ego got in the way and it's cost you, Wade, the heat and us fans.

As much as I respect and love you, that's one you'll never be able to get back.

It didn't cost Pat anything. He did his dirty work, and the local media accepts his spin without question.

yeppers

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