Improved Trade Ideas

SJG020304 · Post #1 » by **SJG020304** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:48 pm

1. CHA receives Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, DET receives Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Spencer Hawes.

2. DEN receives Reggie Bullock, Aron Baynes and a future 1st Round Pick, DET receives Gary Harris.

3. NO receives Aron Baynes, Reggie Bullock and Michael Gbinije, DET receives Tyreke Evans.

4. PHI receives Reggie Bullock and a future First Round Pick, DET receives Nik Stauskas.

5. BRK receives Aron Baynes, Reggie Bullock, Darrun Hillard and a future Second Round Pick, DET receives Rondae Hollis-Jefferson.

BadMofoPimp · Post #2 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:02 pm

SJG020304 wrote:1. CHA receives Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, DET receives Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Spencer Hawes.
No way in Hell would I do that

2. DEN receives Reggie Bullock, Aron Baynes and a future 1st Round Pick, DET receives Gary Harris.
No way in Hell would I do that

3. NO receives Aron Baynes, Reggie Bullock and Michael Gbinije, DET receives Tyreke Evans.
I would consider this if Evans appears to be completely healthy. But, there is no use for a 5th SF on this team.

4. PHI receives Reggie Bullock and a future First Round Pick, DET receives Nik Stauskas.
For some reason, I think Reggie's overall game may end up more valuable. But, I wouldn't be opposed to the trade.

5. BRK receives Aron Baynes, Reggie Bullock, Darrun Hillard and a future Second Round Pick, DET receives Rondae Hollis-Jefferson.
I doubt Brooklyn does this trade.

Manocad · Post #3 » by **Manocad** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:33 pm

No. I am not a fan of wholesale team changes.

Is there something wrong with giving a young team a chance to develop together? It's like with Stanley Johnson...he's played one year at age 19 and already people are describing him using the phrase "He'll never be..."

DET_Athletics · Post #4 » by **DET_Athletics** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:13 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
SJG020304 wrote:1. CHA receives Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, DET receives Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Spencer Hawes.
No way in Hell would I do that
Agreed

2. DEN receives Reggie Bullock, Aron Baynes and a future 1st Round Pick, DET receives Gary Harris.
No way in Hell would I do that
i would do that, garry harris played very well last year, we are going to lose baynes either way next year, and as long as thats not a first round pick in the next year or two, it sounds like a good deal. i would like it better if we got more back, like a second round pick.

3. NO receives Aron Baynes, Reggie Bullock and Michael Gbinije, DET receives Tyreke Evans.
I would consider this if Evans appears to be completely healthy. But, there is no use for a 5th SF on this team. i don't think NO has his bird rights, so we would be trading for someone we cant resign, even if we wanted to.

4. PHI receives Reggie Bullock and a future First Round Pick, DET receives Nik Stauskas.
For some reason, I think Reggie's overall game may end up more valuable. But, I wouldn't be opposed to the trade. wait.... you wouldn't trade for Gary Harris, but your interested in this one?

5. BRK receives Aron Baynes, Reggie Bullock, Darrun Hillard and a future Second Round Pick, DET receives Rondae Hollis-Jefferson.
I doubt Brooklyn does this trade.

the wouldn't, and im not a fan of giving up two prospects at one position in the same trade. plus he's coming off of injury, if he goes down again there goes all the depth.

DCintheD · Post #5 » by **DCintheD** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:17 pm

people need to stop including KCP in trade ideas.

sc8581 · Post #6 » by **sc8581** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:35 pm

DCintheD wrote:people need to stop including KCP in trade ideas.

+1000

I really like MKG, he's a game changer (when healthy) but no way am I trading KCP for him. I would love to see them play together so if you're talking about a Stanley for MKG deal I'm all for it.

Drwho17 · Post #7 » by **Drwho17** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:42 pm

All those trades really suck.

Especially #4, sending out Bullock and a 1st for Nick Stauskus, Bullock straight up might be too much, Stauskus isnt an NBA player at this time.

coordinator0 · Post #8 » by **coordinator0** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:43 pm

Number one doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the Pistons. Kidd-Gilchrist is about as pure of a forward as you can get these days. He can and will play both the three and the four, but Detroit doesn't need him there. He also has major durability concerns. If healthy Michael is one of the best defenders in the game, but I'm not sure I see his fit with the other forwards on the team. Hawes is bad and would never play for the Pistons.

Number two still doesn't work for Denver. Bullock and Baynes have no value for them since they're loaded at their positions. If a trade in that vein is worked out between the Pistons and Nuggets it's more than likely going to be a first round pick for Harris with Brown going out or just being cut. The two teams aren't very good trading partners otherwise. Of course that's also dependent on the team seeing Gbinije being able to handle the 3rd strong PG duties.

Number three is alright. Even with the money New Orleans has invested at center their options suck unless Davis is playing there and I don't think that's what they want with his troubles staying healthy. I'm not sure Bullock or Gbinije have a whole lot of value for the Pelicans though. They're pretty set on the wings even without Evans. Hield, Moore, Hill,

Number four is awful. Stauskas is in no way, shape, or form worth a first round pick. He's not even worth swapping for Bullock straight up.

Number five is still really bad for Brooklyn. Hollis-Jefferson was good for them last season before and after he got injured. They're not going to trade a young starter for a bunch of second-string or third-string players.

So by process of elimination I think number three is the best, although Tyreke's durability issues and actually being hurt right now would make me pause. If Healthy he's a good fit for what Detroit needs off the bench though, assuming his improved shooting stroke last (injury abbreviated) season wasn't a fluke.

Post #9 » by **theBigLip** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:26 pm

1. CHA receives Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, DET receives Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Spencer Hawes.
No. KCP >> MKG.

2. DEN receives Reggie Bullock, Aron Baynes and a future 1st Round Pick, DET receives Gary Harris.
Maybe a 2nd round pick instead, but Harris is not worth throwing in the first.

3. NO receives Aron Baynes, Reggie Bullock and Michael Gbinije, DET receives Tyreke Evans.
I don't want Evans - I think he is already injured and not starting out the season as active.

4. PHI receives Reggie Bullock and a future First Round Pick, DET receives Nik Stauskas.
I'm a Wolverine but I'm not sure Stauskas >> Bullock, and certainly not worth a first.

5. BRK receives Aron Baynes, Reggie Bullock, Darrun Hillard and a future Second Round Pick, DET receives Rondae Hollis-Jefferson.
This one is a definite yes.

tmorgan · Post #10 » by **tmorgan** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:57 pm

I seriously doubt Charlotte would trade MKG for KCP. There's a serious homer element to both sides of that side.

Besides, for those that worry about our shooting... MKG is a downgrade, not an upgrade.

BiGG RaBB · Post #11 » by **BiGG RaBB** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:05 pm

6. WAS receives Reggie Jackson, Aaron Baynes, Henry Ellenson and a 1st rd Pick, DET receives John Wall

7. IND receives Tobias Harris, Stanley Johnson and a 1st rd pick, DET receives Paul George.

C - Drum / Boban
PF: Mook / Leure
SF: George / Bullock
SG: KCP / Hilliard / Gbjine
PG: Wall / Smith

The Penguin · Post #12 » by **The Penguin** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:14 pm

DCintheD wrote:people need to stop including KCP in trade ideas.

And stop giving away future picks like we are the Warriors or Cavs.

Exit 9 · Post #13 » by **Exit 9** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:47 pm

1st rounder for bum ass Stauskas :lol:

harisahmad · Post #14 » by **harisahmad** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:01 pm

If I'm SVG i say no to all. If I'm Joe Dumars I accept them all and throw in another first round pick

cochiseuofm · Post #15 » by **cochiseuofm** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:17 pm

BiGG RaBB wrote:6. WAS receives Reggie Jackson, Aaron Baynes, Henry Ellenson and a 1st rd Pick, DET receives John Wall

7. IND receives Tobias Harris, Stanley Johnson and a 1st rd pick, DET receives Paul George.

C - Drum / Boban
PF: Mook / Leure
SF: George / Bullock
SG: KCP / Hilliard / Gbjine
PG: Wall / Smith

Why not just throw a Marcus Morris / KCP / 1st for LeBron while you're at it?

Manocad · Post #16 » by **Manocad** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:32 pm

DCintheD wrote:people need to stop including KCP in trade ideas.

Thank you. The kid has shown the ability to be a stud defender. Let's give him a little time to develop a consistent shot and he'll be fine. It seems too many fans are in "now, Now, NOW!" mode. Not an All Star by the third year in the league? DUMP HIM!

JohnReese · Post #17 » by **JohnReese** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:36 pm

The only one that makes sense is Tyreke's trade. I'd do it in a heartbeat. Tyreke would fit perfectly the sixth man mold of a contender. He can play three positions.

epheisey · Post #18 » by **epheisey** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:07 pm

SJG020304 wrote:1. CHA receives Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, DET receives Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Spencer Hawes.
No.
2. DEN receives Reggie Bullock, Aron Baynes and a future 1st Round Pick, DET receives Gary Harris.
Not with a 1st.
3. NO receives Aron Baynes, Reggie Bullock and Michael Gbinije, DET receives Tyreke Evans.
If Evans is healthy.
4. PHI receives Reggie Bullock and a future First Round Pick, DET receives Nik Stauskas.
HELL NO. Bullock is arguably better than Stauskas already, forget evening talking about a pick.
5. BRK receives Aron Baynes, Reggie Bullock, Darrun Hillard and a future Second Round Pick, DET receives Rondae Hollis-Jefferson.
Maybe.

JD43320 · Post #19 » by **JD43320** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:11 pm

People need to stop posting trade threads.

DBC10 · Post #20 » by **DBC10** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:23 pm

The Penguin wrote:
DCintheD wrote:people need to stop including KCP in trade ideas.

And stop giving away future picks like we are the Warriors or Cavs.

This. Until we even sniff the 2nd round in the playoffs, we need to be a bit more cautious in giving away free picks since they're so cap friendly in this hostile "max everyone" market right now.