The 2016 Offseason Thread

[NavLDO]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeraldBourguet/status/755124234876100608[/tweet]

Are they talking about Corbin as Asst Coach? Or a player we are unaware of?

[Villalobos]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeraldBourguet/status/755124234876100608[/tweet]

Are they talking about Corbin as Asst Coach? Or a player we are unaware of?

this maybe:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/755132982667665409[/tweet]

[NavLDO]

More flattery for our Suns...sorry if I missed this being posted already:

https://hoopshabit.com/2016/07/18/phoenix-suns-summer-league-success-a-promising-sign/

[bwgood77]

An athletic wing with potential and no jumpshot? I think we already have one of those don't we?

......... he'd be a great guy to put on garbage time this season and take advantage of other teams' garbage-time players.

Look at the 3 games he started; pretty nice stats, and we all saw how active and strong he was on the floor.

http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2016/players/sl_troy_williams/

Yup, every team needs a guy they can put in during meaningless minutes to mop up the other guys playing meaningless minutes. Is there a 'garbage time ' stat show his dominance? Its pretty sad when you create and fill a roster need by anticipating blow outs.


Pass except for a Dleague deal if he can't get on in Europe or china. We have enough wings vying for playing time.

So do we nickname him the garbage man?

[gaspar]

Knight upbeat on Suns after offseason moves

MANILA, Philippines – Up-and-coming guard Brandon Knight has high hopes for the Phoenix Suns heading into the 2016-17 NBA season after a series of offseason moves that brought much-needed veteran presence to the young squad.

Knight signed a contract extension with the Suns ahead of the 2015 season, but they struggled in their campaign with injuries, as well as changes to the coaching staff. Phoenix slumped to a 23-59 record, fourth in the Pacific Division, and missed the post-season.

"Every team has its own challenges," Knight said on Monday in an appearance at the NBA Store. "Now, with Phoenix, we're a young team again. We had a lot of injuries last year. We're trying to find a way to stabilize ourselves and build with the roster that we have."

"Our goal is to be one of the best teams in the West," he added. "That's what we're trying to do right now."

The Suns had a promising offseason, drafting Croatian big man Dragan Bender with the fourth pick of the 2016 rookie draft, then signing free agents Leandro Barbosa and Jared Dudley – both former Phoenix players.

"It's gonna be great," Knight said of the addition of Barbosa and Dudley. "We have a young team, and with such a young team, you need a veteran presence."

"You have that with Tyson (Chandler), we have that in Barbosa and Jared Dudley. To have the voice of guys who have done it, so younger guys will have something to look to, an example to look to, somebody who will show them how it's supposed to be done, how to win a championship, what it's like to build championship habits… To have those guys is gonna be very important for us," he added.

There are still things to work out. Earl Watson will be in his first full year as head coach, and he will have to deal with the Suns' plethora of guards that includes not just Knight but other up-and-comers including Devin Booker and the athletic, if injury-prone, Eric Bledsoe.

Knight, however, is unconcerned about their packed backcourt and says they can work things out by "doing what it takes to win."

"If you do what it takes to win and you sacrifice, you leave it all on the court, and if you guys really bond together – which we do, not just the guards but our entire team, we're forming a great bond," he said.

"That's kind of the thing that we have going on right now – we bond and get to know each other," he added.

"Something special is really happening in Phoenix, and that's how we're gonna make it work, just by being brothers off the court, and on the court, we'll find a way to make it work."

Knight averaged a career-high 19.6 points per game in 36 minutes of action per contest last season, but played in only 52 games. His season ended in early April, and had to go through surgery to fix a sports hernia.

[NavLDO]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeraldBourguet/status/755124234876100608[/tweet]

Are they talking about Corbin as Asst Coach? Or a player we are unaware of?

this maybe:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/755132982667665409[/tweet]

Yeah, probably, but would it have been that hard for Bourguet to put the name in his tweet?? Just stupid, IMO, and trying to generate more 'clicks'...

[gaspar]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeraldBourguet/status/755124234876100608[/tweet]

Are they talking about Corbin as Asst Coach? Or a player we are unaware of?

Barbosa

[bwgood77]

......... he'd be a great guy to put on garbage time this season and take advantage of other teams' garbage-time players.

Look at the 3 games he started; pretty nice stats, and we all saw how active and strong he was on the floor.

http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2016/players/sl_troy_williams/

Yup, every team needs a guy they can put in during meaningless minutes to mop up the other guys playing meaningless minutes. Is there a 'garbage time ' stat show his dominance? Its pretty sad when you create and fill a roster need by anticipating blow outs.


Pass except for a Dleague deal if he can't get on in Europe or china. We have enough wings vying for playing time.

And how many of those 'Wings' are under 25?? Not counting Booker, who needs to stay at SG, at SF we have Duds, Tucker, and Warren. So yeah, a young Wing would be nice to have, especially I Duds gets most of his minutes at PF...that leaves Warren and Tucker, and MAYBE Bender, but let's face it, Bender is non-traditional. I'm talking more about the traditional sense.

So, you are saying, then, that you would be opposed to signing him over, say Jenkins or keeping Goodwin?? Were you not impressed with what Williams did in SL?? Just curious.

I think it's definitely worth signing him. Heck, he will have a million dollar contract or less. It's not like you have much to lose. I don't know if you can do a one year deal with two team option years after that, but it's not like we are so loaded with talent we're not sure where he could fit.

[NavLDO]

......... he'd be a great guy to put on garbage time this season and take advantage of other teams' garbage-time players.

Look at the 3 games he started; pretty nice stats, and we all saw how active and strong he was on the floor.

http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2016/players/sl_troy_williams/

Yup, every team needs a guy they can put in during meaningless minutes to mop up the other guys playing meaningless minutes. Is there a 'garbage time ' stat show his dominance? Its pretty sad when you create and fill a roster need by anticipating blow outs.


Pass except for a Dleague deal if he can't get on in Europe or china. We have enough wings vying for playing time.

So do we nickname him the garbage man?

Yep!! Sounds better than "D-League man"!

Seriously, I think he gets on a squad at some point this season, and hopefully, doesn't bite us in the ass if it isn't us...

[bwgood77]

Does it concern anyone that we have absolutely no inside game? No low post scoring what so ever? Even our guards can't really body up on someone. This squad has all the makings of a 3ball small ball gimmicky chuckfest..... but.... at least we have the shooters.

I think Len can be that, if he's 'allowed' to concentrate on that aspect of his game. If he wants to take an occasional shot from 20 ft, then fine, but let him learn the nuances of being that low-post guy, instead of tinkering with his game.

We now have our 7' 1" 'stretch-4' or 3 in Bender; let Len go back to spending the majority of his time in the low post. Chriss could also develop there as well, and obviously Alan Williams, if kept on the roster, is an ideal bench low-post guy.

So right now, yes, we are hurting, but I see no reason by season's end, or next season, that we'll be settled in that department. And who knows, we have a ton of off-season left. Maybe McD puts a pkg together gets us that guy; I wouldn't be surprised either way.

It would take an astronomical improvement in Len's post game for it to be considered a strength for him and the team. And let's not act like he didn't get to focus on it last year, he had that stretch after Keef was traded and Knight was down where he was the "#1" option..putting up 20pt nights on terrible shooting and with that baby deer footwork. He can get better, but i wouldnt count on an unrealistically drastic improvement to solve our troubles getting easy baskets.

Just having guys like him and Williams, who are better down low than at 20ft, doesnt mean there's a legitimate low post threat there.

I'm not terribly concerned with having a low post threat, as long as we can get a good rim protector and rebounder. I think our centers are great rebounders. Len could work on rim protection though.

I mean do Cleveland and GS have big time low post threats?

[TASTIC]

Throw some money at Carl Landry. Inside scorer, great locker room guy and could probably be had for the minimum.

There's got to be a trade at some point - Archie + Jenkins on the out to a team needing guard help...

[bwgood77]

Throw some money at Carl Landry. Inside scorer, great locker room guy and could probably be had for the minimum.

There's got to be a trade at some point - Archie + Jenkins on the out to a team needing guard help...

Well considering we picked up Jenkins on waivers he may not have much value, and Archie may have less. The good news though, is that with all these huge contracts, maybe their small contracts look like they are worth picking up to some teams. But I wouldn't expect much in return.

[GetYourPHX]

I think Len can be that, if he's 'allowed' to concentrate on that aspect of his game. If he wants to take an occasional shot from 20 ft, then fine, but let him learn the nuances of being that low-post guy, instead of tinkering with his game.

We now have our 7' 1" 'stretch-4' or 3 in Bender; let Len go back to spending the majority of his time in the low post. Chriss could also develop there as well, and obviously Alan Williams, if kept on the roster, is an ideal bench low-post guy.

So right now, yes, we are hurting, but I see no reason by season's end, or next season, that we'll be settled in that department. And who knows, we have a ton of off-season left. Maybe McD puts a pkg together gets us that guy; I wouldn't be surprised either way.

It would take an astronomical improvement in Len's post game for it to be considered a strength for him and the team. And let's not act like he didn't get to focus on it last year, he had that stretch after Keef was traded and Knight was down where he was the "#1" option..putting up 20pt nights on terrible shooting and with that baby deer footwork. He can get better, but i wouldnt count on an unrealistically drastic improvement to solve our troubles getting easy baskets.

Just having guys like him and Williams, who are better down low than at 20ft, doesnt mean there's a legitimate low post threat there.

I'm not terribly concerned with having a low post threat, as long as we can get a good rim protector and rebounder. I think our centers are great rebounders. Len could work on rim protection though.

I mean do Cleveland and GS have big time low post threats?

We need a low-post scoring threat? Kind of an inane observation. The Suns are third in the league in points in the paint over the last three years. Last year we were 20th, but we still scored more in the paint then the 23rd ranked Cavs. GS was 10th, the Raptors 21st, and OKC was 3rd. Leading the pack was perennial NBA success stories Milwaukee and Sacramento.

We certainly have dearth of elite talent, but looking for a low-post scorer is not the one of the boxes the Suns need to check.

[Saberestar]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/755135060961992704[/tweet]

[Saberestar]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheBlurBarbosa/status/751554004493139972[/tweet]
I know that he is on the downside of his career, but I love to have Leandrinho back.

[DirtyDez]

Who's ready to give Alex Len an Andre Drummomd contract next summer?

[NavLDO]

Who's ready to give Alex Len an Andre Drummomd contract next summer?

Well, if he plays like he did this past season, why would we have to??? If he has a season that rivals what Drummond did last year--16/15, then yep, sign me up, but the fact that Len hasn't some close to that, I highly doubt we will have to offer him a 5yr/$130M extension. Something more along the lines of 5yr/$80M would more likely be in order; if McD signs Len to a $130M extension, he may as well sign his resignation, since Len hasn't proven to be even 2/3 the player Drummond has.

[NTB]

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2016/7/18/12211770/suns-guard-brandon-knight-something-special-is-really-happening-phoenix

[weslo1812]

Knight upbeat on Suns after offseason moves

MANILA, Philippines – Up-and-coming guard Brandon Knight has high hopes for the Phoenix Suns heading into the 2016-17 NBA season after a series of offseason moves that brought much-needed veteran presence to the young squad.

Knight signed a contract extension with the Suns ahead of the 2015 season, but they struggled in their campaign with injuries, as well as changes to the coaching staff. Phoenix slumped to a 23-59 record, fourth in the Pacific Division, and missed the post-season.

"Every team has its own challenges," Knight said on Monday in an appearance at the NBA Store. "Now, with Phoenix, we're a young team again. We had a lot of injuries last year. We're trying to find a way to stabilize ourselves and build with the roster that we have."

"Our goal is to be one of the best teams in the West," he added. "That's what we're trying to do right now."

The Suns had a promising offseason, drafting Croatian big man Dragan Bender with the fourth pick of the 2016 rookie draft, then signing free agents Leandro Barbosa and Jared Dudley – both former Phoenix players.

"It's gonna be great," Knight said of the addition of Barbosa and Dudley. "We have a young team, and with such a young team, you need a veteran presence."

"You have that with Tyson (Chandler), we have that in Barbosa and Jared Dudley. To have the voice of guys who have done it, so younger guys will have something to look to, an example to look to, somebody who will show them how it's supposed to be done, how to win a championship, what it's like to build championship habits… To have those guys is gonna be very important for us," he added.

There are still things to work out. Earl Watson will be in his first full year as head coach, and he will have to deal with the Suns' plethora of guards that includes not just Knight but other up-and-comers including Devin Booker and the athletic, if injury-prone, Eric Bledsoe.

Knight, however, is unconcerned about their packed backcourt and says they can work things out by "doing what it takes to win."

"If you do what it takes to win and you sacrifice, you leave it all on the court, and if you guys really bond together – which we do, not just the guards but our entire team, we're forming a great bond," he said.

"That's kind of the thing that we have going on right now – we bond and get to know each other," he added.

"Something special is really happening in Phoenix, and that's how we're gonna make it work, just by being brothers off the court, and on the court, we'll find a way to make it work."

Knight averaged a career-high 19.6 points per game in 36 minutes of action per contest last season, but played in only 52 games. His season ended in early April, and had to go through surgery to fix a sports hernia.

I was just about to post this on here lol glad to see someone already got it. I'm really glad to see this attitude though outta knight. Encouragingredients to say the least, and to see and hear about the team as a whole is bonding is really cool. I think this may be something that benefits the team as much as anything this year.

[JTrain]

An athletic wing with potential and no jumpshot? I think we already have one of those don't we?

......... he'd be a great guy to put on garbage time this season and take advantage of other teams' garbage-time players.

Look at the 3 games he started; pretty nice stats, and we all saw how active and strong he was on the floor.

http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2016/players/sl_troy_williams/

Yup, every team needs a guy they can put in during meaningless minutes to mop up the other guys playing meaningless minutes. Is there a 'garbage time ' stat show his dominance? Its pretty sad when you create and fill a roster need by anticipating blow outs.


Pass except for a Dleague deal if he can't get on in Europe or china. We have enough wings vying for playing time.

Why take John Jenkins over him at this point, though? I don't really care about the short-term guard logjam. Somebody's probably getting traded this year, and we aren't going to be good either way. I'm thinking 3-4 year time frame. With Jenkins, you pretty much know what you've got. If Williams even has a 10% chance of becoming a starter-level player down the road, I'd gladly take him over Jenkins. I don't see any real risk.