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Jodie Meeks Out Indefinitely Following Surgery On Foot 

Post#1 » by Laimbeer » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:48 pm

Jodie Meeks underwent a surgical procedure to further stabilize the fifth metatarsal in his right foot.

He will be out indefinitely and his return to action will depend on how he responds to rehabilitation.

Meeks was acquired on June 29 from the Detroit Pistons in exchange for a future conditional second round draft pick. He played in only three games with Detroit last season, averaging 7.3 ppg., 1.7 rpg. and 1.0 apg. in 14.5 minpg. Meeks originally suffered a fractured fifth metatarsal in his right foot on Oct. 28 vs. Utah.


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Post#3 » by Alexander » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:58 pm

This probably just means that Hezonja gets more minutes at SG, right?

The only other SG I see on their roster is CJ Wilcox and I know nothing about him.
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Post#4 » by coordinator0 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:11 pm

Alexander wrote:This probably just means that Hezonja gets more minutes at SG, right?

The only other SG I see on their roster is CJ Wilcox and I know nothing about him.


That's where Hezonja should be getting most of his minutes at. He will probably see some time at the three too with Gordon and/or Green playing power forward behind Ibaka. The rotation being something like this maybe?

Payton (32) / Augustin (16)
Fournier (34) / Hezonja (14)
Gordon (26) / Green (12) / Hezonja (10)
Ibaka (32) / Green (12) / Gordon (4)
Biyombo (26) / Vucevic (22)
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Post#5 » by bballnmike » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:18 pm

Alexander wrote:This probably just means that Hezonja gets more minutes at SG, right?

The only other SG I see on their roster is CJ Wilcox and I know nothing about him.

I often confuse him with Chris Wilcox, think to myself "Wow that guy's still in the league?" And then remember it's a different person.
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Post#6 » by Alexander » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:32 pm

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Alexander wrote:This probably just means that Hezonja gets more minutes at SG, right?

The only other SG I see on their roster is CJ Wilcox and I know nothing about him.


That's where Hezonja should be getting most of his minutes at. He will probably see some time at the three too with Gordon and/or Green playing power forward behind Ibaka. The rotation being something like this maybe?

Payton (32) / Augustin (16)
Fournier (34) / Hezonja (14)
Gordon (26) / Green (12) / Hezonja (10)
Ibaka (32) / Green (12) / Gordon (4)
Biyombo (26) / Vucevic (22)


Their roster made sense to me until they added Jeff Green.
Vucevic's going to go a 19/11 and 18/9 season in 34 and 31 minutes (respectively) a game...to 22 minutes? I'd be livid.
Take Green's 24 minutes and reallocate them and you get:

Payton 32/Augustin 16
Fournier 32/Hezonja 16
Gordon 32/Hezonja 16
Ibaka 32/Biyombo 16
Biyombo 14/Vucevic 34

It's just so much more...equitable that way. The only person whose minutes change a surprising amount were Hezonja, but they couldn't be faulted for expecting big things from 5th overall pick who is only asked to feast on bench players. A healthy Meeks would have mitigated any issues with Hezonja's role or minutes.
Adding Green made things convoluted.
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Post#7 » by Todd3 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:50 pm

The Magic have become the Pistons personal garbage dump. First Jennings and now Meeks.
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Post#8 » by Manocad » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:01 pm

Fracturing the fifth metatarsal is nothing. I know this because I broke mine playing racquetball. By the time the season starts he won't even know it ever happened.
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Post#9 » by epheisey » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:40 pm

Damn, I totally missed the fact that Vucevic got the shaft on the Ibaka deal.

Edit: Maybe they'll use Biyombo as the 3rd big? Seems somewhat redundant having him paired with Ibaka right?

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Post#10 » by Todd3 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:46 pm

Manocad wrote:Fracturing the fifth metatarsal is nothing. I know this because I broke mine playing racquetball. By the time the season starts he won't even know it ever happened.


The same metatarsal that sidelined him the entire 2015-16 season.
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Post#11 » by coordinator0 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:51 pm

Alexander wrote:Their roster made sense to me until they added Jeff Green.
Vucevic's going to go a 19/11 and 18/9 season in 34 and 31 minutes (respectively) a game...to 22 minutes? I'd be livid.
Take Green's 24 minutes and reallocate them and you get:

Payton 32/Augustin 16
Fournier 32/Hezonja 16
Gordon 32/Hezonja 16
Ibaka 32/Biyombo 16
Biyombo 14/Vucevic 34

It's just so much more...equitable that way. The only person whose minutes change a surprising amount were Hezonja, but they couldn't be faulted for expecting big things from 5th overall pick who is only asked to feast on bench players. A healthy Meeks would have mitigated any issues with Hezonja's role or minutes.
Adding Green made things convoluted.


Biyombo can't play much power forward. He's a good defender at center, but not outside of there. I think he will be playing over Vucevic because of what Vogel likes at that position. Frank very much prefers a defensive rim-protector inside which means Bismack gets the nod. He's not good enough to play real starter minutes though so Nikola gets a healthy amount there too. Ibaka might get some minutes at the five in small-ball lineups as well which would leech minutes from both of their well-paid centers. It sucks for Vucevic but teams have a really hard time building around offensive centers that have no defensive value these days.

I don't like what they've done since the Harris trade at all. That was bad for them and giving Green a ton of money for one season to reach the salary floor is kind of awful too. To me they went from a young team with a bunch of promising assets (albeit ones that didn't fit particularly well) to a very meh team with just a couple of assets that they can afford to move.
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Post#12 » by ImHeisenberg » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:07 pm

Glad we moved him while we could. I think it's safe to say that we're much better off with Boban.
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Post#13 » by Manocad » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:09 am

TSE wrote:
Manocad wrote:Fracturing the fifth metatarsal is nothing. I know this because I broke mine playing racquetball. By the time the season starts he won't even know it ever happened.


The same metatarsal that sidelined him the entire 2015-16 season.

Being out due to injury then due to lack of need doesn't mean out due to injury.
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Post#14 » by coordinator0 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:16 am

Manocad wrote:Being out due to injury then due to lack of need doesn't mean out due to injury.


I see what you did there. :D
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Post#15 » by sfballa13 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:30 am

Orlando had some laughable moves but Ibaka and Vogel will definitely make them a better team at least next season

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Post#16 » by Uncle Mxy » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:51 am

Hats off to a Grant Hill Orlando Tragic sendoff!
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Post#17 » by SVG » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:02 am

I feel sorry for Jodie Minks, poor guy can't seem to catch a break :(
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Post#18 » by Laimbeer » Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:15 am

sfballa13 wrote:Orlando had some laughable moves but Ibaka and Vogel will definitely make them a better team at least next season

People are really sleeping on Frank he is a great coach


Yep, they're one team I'm really intrigued by. Biz and Ibaka aboard and watching how their young players develop. Could be a real sleeper.
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Post#19 » by The Penguin » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:02 pm

Alexander wrote:
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Alexander wrote:This probably just means that Hezonja gets more minutes at SG, right?

The only other SG I see on their roster is CJ Wilcox and I know nothing about him.


That's where Hezonja should be getting most of his minutes at. He will probably see some time at the three too with Gordon and/or Green playing power forward behind Ibaka. The rotation being something like this maybe?

Payton (32) / Augustin (16)
Fournier (34) / Hezonja (14)
Gordon (26) / Green (12) / Hezonja (10)
Ibaka (32) / Green (12) / Gordon (4)
Biyombo (26) / Vucevic (22)


Their roster made sense to me until they added Jeff Green.
Vucevic's going to go a 19/11 and 18/9 season in 34 and 31 minutes (respectively) a game...to 22 minutes? I'd be livid.
Take Green's 24 minutes and reallocate them and you get:

Payton 32/Augustin 16
Fournier 32/Hezonja 16
Gordon 32/Hezonja 16
Ibaka 32/Biyombo 16
Biyombo 14/Vucevic 34

It's just so much more...equitable that way. The only person whose minutes change a surprising amount were Hezonja, but they couldn't be faulted for expecting big things from 5th overall pick who is only asked to feast on bench players. A healthy Meeks would have mitigated any issues with Hezonja's role or minutes.
Adding Green made things convoluted.



I have no clue what they are doing. Running Payton - Gordon - Biyombo together on the top unit gives 3 major holes offensively as none of them can shoot. Jeff Green makes no sense, especially after they gave away Tobias to basically pay Green the same amount for a similar role. Giving Augustin the contract they did makes no sense. Their deadline through summer looks like they thought they have a legitimate shot at getting Durant & Conley, then panicked and signed Jeff Green and DJ Augustine when they couldn't get meetings.

Vucevic is a nice player, but given they have Gordon / Ibaka / Biyombo, I think they should be shopping him for a lead guard, moving Hezonja into the starting 3 spot and putting Payton as the 3rd guard. Save the Gordon / Ibaka / Biyombo frontline as a curveball to go big at times.

Actual Good Guard from Vucevic trade / Payton
Fournier
Hezonja
Gordon / Biyombo
Ibaka / Biyombo

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