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So, are we swallowing Tyler Johnson's Poison pill? is this the right move?

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Re: So, are we swallowing Tyler Johnson's Poison pill? is this the right move? 

Post#21 » by Mugiwara » Thu Jul 7, 2016 8:03 pm

Don't match. Keep flexibility.
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Re: So, are we swallowing Tyler Johnson's Poison pill? is this the right move? 

Post#22 » by Temuhjan » Fri Jul 8, 2016 5:44 am

Let Sean Marks taste his own medicine. He can have both Crabbe and TJ. We are happy going young
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Re: So, are we swallowing Tyler Johnson's Poison pill? is this the right move? 

Post#23 » by gom » Fri Jul 8, 2016 6:16 am

HEAT_ME_UP wrote:How about we match the 50mil but instead give him something like this:

2016-2017= $19 Mill
2017-2018=$6 Mil
2018-2019=$6 Mil
2019-2020=$19 Mil


That's not a legal NBA contract.
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Re: So, are we swallowing Tyler Johnson's Poison pill? is this the right move? 

Post#24 » by spaceballer » Fri Jul 8, 2016 1:39 pm

MFlash321 wrote:I'm with it. I don't think he signed that offer sheet because he wants out of Miami, he signed it because he wants his money, respectfully.


It wasn't just the money. An article that quoted his family said he turned down higher offers from elsewhere in order to sign with the Nets. In the article, his mother said she was excited that he would get to play with Jeremy Lin because they're both from the same Bay Area and undrafted.

http://www.mercurynews.com/peninsula-sports/ci_30099408/tyler-johnson-cashes-nba-free-agent

From the article, he didn't choose the offer with the most money:

Mercury News wrote:"We're very humble and he was pretty emotional, feeling pretty sick. You know, just. like. what do you do? Because there were multiple offers on the table and even one that was more than that, but he had to choose what was best for him. So he felt like the Nets was the best choice."


And his mother is excited that TJ gets to play next to Jeremy Lin because of the shared hometown and draft status connection (they're both from the Bay Area and undrafted):

Mercury News wrote:"It's amazing," Jennifer Johnson said. "Two undrafted guys from 15 minutes apart in schools. It's pretty darn awesome."


It doesn't mean that he doesn't like the Heat, of course. Just that his commitment to the Nets was not just based on money, since he didn't even take the highest offer.
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Re: So, are we swallowing Tyler Johnson's Poison pill? is this the right move? 

Post#25 » by EscapoTHB » Fri Jul 8, 2016 3:54 pm

It depends on how much the Heat rate this Mcgruder guy I suppose. And if they want to start Josh Richardson next year. If McGruder is nearly as good as Tyler Johnson, it might not make sense to do the deal.
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Re: So, are we swallowing Tyler Johnson's Poison pill? is this the right move? 

Post#26 » by kayath » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:52 am

50 mil is a bit too much if you ask me, If he hadn't have health issues maybe but with that in mind I would let him go unfortunately. Just too big question mark for that kind of money. :(
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Post#27 » by ndnow » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:52 pm

kayath wrote:50 mil is a bit too much if you ask me, If he hadn't have health issues maybe but with that in mind I would let him go unfortunately. Just too big question mark for that kind of money. :(


I fail to see where else the money would be spent.
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Re: So, are we swallowing Tyler Johnson's Poison pill? is this the right move? 

Post#28 » by SCHeat » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:30 pm

ndnow wrote:
kayath wrote:50 mil is a bit too much if you ask me, If he hadn't have health issues maybe but with that in mind I would let him go unfortunately. Just too big question mark for that kind of money. :(


I fail to see where else the money would be spent.


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Post#29 » by walk with me » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:31 pm

if we match this guy this is one of the worst off seasons in the past decade.
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Post#30 » by HEAT_ME_UP » Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:53 am

Swallowed!!!

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Re: So, are we swallowing Tyler Johnson's Poison pill? is this the right move? 

Post#31 » by mtcan » Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:12 am

In my opinion...2 seasons in which he barely played even 40 games per does not necessitate a 50 million dollar pay day. Nets really screwed the Heat over on this one.
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Post#32 » by smartcane » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:00 am

mtcan wrote:In my opinion...2 seasons in which he barely played even 40 games per does not necessitate a 50 million dollar pay day. Nets really screwed the Heat over on this one.



It make sense Heat Matching cause at 5 mil the next two years he is a discount and he will only count 1.2 mil against the cap. They have faith that he will develop in to at least a good PG/SG so in two years when he is 26 the salary cap will be even higher than it is now. In that market his contract could seem like a deal but that is call contingent on his continued development. Worse case scenario we trade him and our 2023 1st round pick or earlier 2nd round pick some where to clear up cap space!!
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Re: So, are we swallowing Tyler Johnson's Poison pill? is this the right move? 

Post#33 » by EscapoTHB » Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:32 pm

Yeah if you believe he will continue to develop, and if you're the heat, why wouldn't you given how much he's progressed already and how hard he works, why wouldn't you bet on him being worth that contract in three years? 1.2 and 5 mill for the next two years is good value for what he is now.

Also I really like when we play him and Dragic together because it's clear that TJ has patterned some of his game off of Dragic just from being around him, and it's like double dragon.
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Re: So, are we swallowing Tyler Johnson's Poison pill? is this the right move? 

Post#34 » by QUIZ » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:25 am

I think it was an ok move because in a few years he'll be making the equivalent of about $11-12mill. That's Danny Green money. Good 3pt shooting plus 12ppg would bring him up to that level production wise at least. The D is already pretty good against fast PG's, he size hurts him a bit on that end though. Just something he needs to overcome.
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Re: So, are we swallowing Tyler Johnson's Poison pill? is this the right move? 

Post#35 » by theClover » Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:06 am

A bit overpaid, but i like tj's Game and grit so guess its ok
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