Dwyane Wade Appreciation Thread

[Hallstar]

also his ability to carry a team suddenly diminished when Whiteside went down in the playoffs.

I'm sorry, but this is an absurd statement. It's like saying LeBron's ability to carry a team got diminished after Kyrie got hurt. It's actually even worse that because Kyrie is far more of an offensive threat. Wade got the Heat to Game 7 of the conference semis against the the #2 seed with two max-level front court players out. He dropped 38 in a four-point Game 3 loss, when nobody else could manage more than 12. Win that game, and they win the series before Game 7.

The news about Dirk's contract is sickening. He's 38, but I would argue Wade contributed more and sacrificed more for the Heat by age 34.

I wouldn't put it past Cuban to have increased the offer just to embarrass Miami (and Wade too). Regardless, it's high time for Riley to "spend more time with his family."

I remember seeing Lebron beasting in the finals without Kyrie and Love. I remember Wade beasting in the playoffs with nothing at all in 2009, 2010. I don't see how you can give him credit for carrying the team this year. He was a piece of an ensemble cast. Yes, more significant than the likes of Winslow or Richardson, but don't put him on Lebron level. He isn't and hasn't been on that level in a long time.

Game 1 win - Dragic 26pts, Wade 24pts
Game 4 win - Wade 30pts
Game 6 win - Dragic 30pts

Dragic gets no credit? He did just as much as Wade. Of course on the defensive in end they were BOTH turnstiles without Whiteside....Lowry and Derozan ate them up.

hahahahahaha, is that how we count now? only count the effort in the wins? Ensemble cast my ass, his 2nd option scored above 20 in 4 out of 14 games.

Your trolling is pathetic....

If Wade did as much as Dragic we lose in 5 to the Hornets

[contract]

Spoiler:

Just to clarify, for those who keep bringing up "but Dirk got 100 million more than Wade!", here are their salaries compared year to year.

Season 1: Dirk 1.5 million, Wade 2.6 million
Season 2: Dirk 1.6 million, Wade 2.8 million
Season 3: Dirk 1.7 million, Wade 3.0 million
Season 4: Dirk 2.2 million, Wade 3.8 million
Season 5: Dirk 10 million, Wade 13 million
Season 6: Dirk 11.3 million, Wade 14.4 million
Season 7: Dirk 12.6 million, Wade 15.8 million
Season 8: Dirk 13.8 million, Wade 14.2 million (Wade takes minor paycut at this point to fit Haslem onto team)
Season 9: Dirk 15.1 million, Wade 15.7 million
Season 10: Dirk 16.4 million, Wade 17.1 million
Season 11: Dirk 18.1 million, Wade 18.7 million
Season 12: Dirk 19.8 million, Wade 15.0 million (Wade takes a cut due to the need to give Bosh the max along with him opting out to try to keep LeBron)
Season 13: Dirk 17.3 million, Wade 20.0 million
Season 14: Dirk 19.1 million, Wade set to make 23.5 million (would have made 20.5 million with us)
Season 15: Dirk 20.9 million, Wade set to make 23.5 million (would have made 20.5 million with us)
Season 16: Dirk 22.7 million
Season 17: Dirk 8.0 million
Season 18: Dirk 8.3 million
Season 19: Dirk set to make 25 million
Season 20: Dirk set to make 25 million

So yes, its unfair to point to Dirk's 8 million seasons, as they came further into his career than Wade has reached yet.

However, by the end of each players 15th season, if Wade had stayed with us and taken our offer, he would have made 203.1 million to Dirk's 181.4 million, a difference of 21.7 million (which if you account for inflation, probably puts them about equal in terms of earning). Wade with his Chicago salary bumps him up to 209.1 million.

Season to season, Wade will have out earned Dirk in every year but their 12th seasons (this one is a fluke for Wade because of the LeBron opt out and Bosh max situation) and 15th assuming he took Miami's offer (he will still outearn Dirk with what he'll make in Chicago).

And again, yes inflation accounts for some of that, but that still means they've both been paid about equally season to season throughout their careers. So this idea that Dirk's made 100 million more is nonsense, he's made a lot more money because he's played a lot more NBA seasons, period.

Top 10 Dirk/Wade salaries:

Dirk $22,721,381
Dirk $20,907,128
Wade $20,000,000
Dirk $19,795,714
Dirk $19,092,873
Wade $18,673,000
Dirk $18,077,904
Dirk $17,278,618
Wade $17,182,000
Dirk $16,360,094

If Wade had re-signed with the Heat, by the end of that 2 year deal, Dirk would own the top 3 or 4 salaries on that list.

[contract]

btw there's no need to compare Wade to a player who has been in the NBA longer, when we can simply compare him to Bosh, who entered the league at the exact same time as Wade and is on this team.

Career earnings through '15-'16:

Bosh: $166,241,883
Wade: $156,321,666


Earnings since the formation of the Big 3 through '15-'16:

Bosh: $109,972,130
Wade: $100,746,000


Had Wade accepted the Heat's offer, their earnings from the formation of the Big 3 through '17-'18:

Bosh: $159,002,580
Wade: $140,746,000

[Tim_Hardawayy]

btw there's no need to compare Wade to a player who has been in the NBA longer, when we can simply compare him to Bosh, who entered the league at the exact same time as Wade and is on this team.

Career earnings through '15-'16:

Bosh: $166,241,883
Wade: $156,321,666


Earnings since the formation of the Big 3 through '15-'16:

Bosh: $109,972,130
Wade: $100,746,000


If Wade had accepted the Heat's offer, their earnings since the formation of the Big 3 through '17-'18:

Bosh: $159,002,580
Wade: $140,746,000

Yes, and we know exactly why that is. Wade took a slightly larger paycut than the other 2 to keep Haslem, and then Bosh forced Riley to pay the max to make him stay in Miami, while Wade willingly took less to give us room to sign Deng.

Do you not realize that the very reason Wade has gotten screwed is because of the way max salaries are structured in the NBA, not some nefarious plan to underpay our franchise player? I'm sure you do, but it sounds better to just say "Aha, Bosh made a few million more than Wade, we are dicks!"

The truth is, if the NBA removed max salaries, we probably don't get the big 3 in 2010, but Wade easily gets 30-40 million a season at least, and this is all a moot point.

Bottom line, Wade, Riley, and most importantly Andy all understood how the cap works, and everytime Wade took a paycut, it was a situation where he was heavily involved with it. The only time you could argue he didn't get what he wanted outside of obviously this summer, was last summer, because he could not get a 3-year deal. He wanted to be the one to take less to sign Udonis in 2010, and he wanted to sacrifice to be able to sign Deng in 2014 in order for us to be semi-competitive.

By the way, your Wade/Dirk salary comparison is extremely disingenous when put the way you did it, as you're ignoring the inflation I just mentioned, Dirk's 4 highest salaried seasons came in his 12th, 14th, 15th and 16th seasons in the league. Wade's actually going to see a similar thing happen, his 2 highest salaried seasons will be his 14th and 15th (because of the cap raises). In the NBA, your max salary rises the more years you are in the league, and Dirk has always been in the league longer than Wade, and was pretty much always eligible for a higher max whenever you compare them in the same year.

And I'm not arguing Wade wasn't clearly our best player in the playoffs last season, or that he's some ungrateful snob who takes all his advice from LeBron now, like some posters. I think those takes are mostly if not totally wrong.

[contract]

Spoiler:

btw there's no need to compare Wade to a player who has been in the NBA longer, when we can simply compare him to Bosh, who entered the league at the exact same time as Wade and is on this team.

Career earnings through '15-'16:

Bosh: $166,241,883
Wade: $156,321,666


Earnings since the formation of the Big 3 through '15-'16:

Bosh: $109,972,130
Wade: $100,746,000


If Wade had accepted the Heat's offer, their earnings since the formation of the Big 3 through '17-'18:

Bosh: $159,002,580
Wade: $140,746,000

Yes, and we know exactly why that is. Wade took a slightly larger paycut than the other 2 to keep Haslem, and then Bosh forced Riley to pay the max to make him stay in Miami, while Wade willingly took less to give us room to sign Deng.

Do you not realize that the very reason Wade has gotten screwed is because of the way max salaries are structured in the NBA, not some nefarious plan to underpay our franchise player? I'm sure you do, but it sounds better to just say "Aha, Bosh made a few million more than Wade, we are dicks!"

The truth is, if the NBA removed max salaries, we probably don't get the big 3 in 2010, but Wade easily gets 30-40 million a season at least, and this is all a moot point.

Bottom line, Wade, Riley, and most importantly Andy all understood how the cap works, and everytime Wade took a paycut, it was a situation where he was heavily involved with it. The only time you could argue he didn't get what he wanted outside of obviously this summer, was last summer, because he could not get a 3-year deal. He wanted to be the one to take less to sign Udonis in 2010, and he wanted to sacrifice to be able to sign Deng in 2014 in order for us to be semi-competitive.

By the way, your Wade/Dirk salary comparison is extremely disingenous when put the way you did it, as you're ignoring the inflation I just mentioned, Dirk's 4 highest salaried seasons came in his 12th, 14th, 15th and 16th seasons in the league. Wade's actually going to see a similar thing happen, his 2 highest salaried seasons will be his 14th and 15th (because of the cap raises). In the NBA, your max salary rises the more years you are in the league, and Dirk has always been in the league longer than Wade, and was pretty much always eligible for a higher max whenever you compare them in the same year.

And I'm not arguing Wade wasn't clearly our best player in the playoffs last season, or that he's some ungrateful snob who takes all his advice from LeBron now, like some posters. I think those takes are mostly if not totally wrong.

Max salaries had nothing to do with Wade getting screwed. The Heat using Wade as their personal ATM while having no intentions of ever paying him his market value is why he got screwed.

"The only time you could argue he didn't get what he wanted outside of obviously this summer, was last summer, because he could not get a 3-year deal ..." and the year before that when he agreed to take a paycut to add talent ... and ended up on a team with less talent. Screwed.

Which I guess goes nicely with the paycut he took to add Miller, only to watch him get amnestied. Screwed.

And last summer he didn't just get screwed because the Heat refused to give him a 3 year deal, or a 2 year deal, or even a player option at any salary. He also got screwed because the Heat didn't make him whole for the entire $21.5 million he was originally due to earn last year ... even after he pitched a very public fit to get the Heat to increase their lowball offer. Call it a slap in the face on top of a slap in the face, or simply call it Pat Riley and the Heat having some serious brass balls, either way Wade got screwed hard.

And Wade's earning in his 14th and 15th season are really rather irrelevant ... since we're not the ones paying him.

It doesn't matter that Dirk's max has been higher than Wade's, because Wade wasn't paid his max anyway.

[I_Never Lied]

I think Riley is getting too old. You can't have three 20 million dollar guys on your team and trash around them UNLESS those guys are ELITE players that can carry a team. A smart GM would have known this. Riley himself should have known this because he already went through it in 2010 with 3 max guys and trash like Bibby and Joel Antony to support.

[Heat3]

I'm sorry, but this is an absurd statement. It's like saying LeBron's ability to carry a team got diminished after Kyrie got hurt. It's actually even worse that because Kyrie is far more of an offensive threat. Wade got the Heat to Game 7 of the conference semis against the the #2 seed with two max-level front court players out. He dropped 38 in a four-point Game 3 loss, when nobody else could manage more than 12. Win that game, and they win the series before Game 7.

The news about Dirk's contract is sickening. He's 38, but I would argue Wade contributed more and sacrificed more for the Heat by age 34.

I wouldn't put it past Cuban to have increased the offer just to embarrass Miami (and Wade too). Regardless, it's high time for Riley to "spend more time with his family."

I remember seeing Lebron beasting in the finals without Kyrie and Love. I remember Wade beasting in the playoffs with nothing at all in 2009, 2010. I don't see how you can give him credit for carrying the team this year. He was a piece of an ensemble cast. Yes, more significant than the likes of Winslow or Richardson, but don't put him on Lebron level. He isn't and hasn't been on that level in a long time.

Game 1 win - Dragic 26pts, Wade 24pts
Game 4 win - Wade 30pts
Game 6 win - Dragic 30pts

Dragic gets no credit? He did just as much as Wade. Of course on the defensive in end they were BOTH turnstiles without Whiteside....Lowry and Derozan ate them up.

hahahahahaha, is that how we count now? only count the effort in the wins? Ensemble cast my ass, his 2nd option scored above 20 in 4 out of 14 games.

Your trolling is pathetic....

If Wade did as much as Dragic we lose in 5 to the Hornets

Game 7 vs Hornets

Dragic 25 pts
Wade 12pts

[gom]

Could we make an effort to keep this on topic? Reminder: It is the Dwyane Wade appreciation thread.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JotFO_LZMBw[/youtube]

Plenty of other threads for trolling etc.

[gom]

Good luck in Chicago, playing for the bulls.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7daKNjnmHY[/youtube]

[QUIZ]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVHLPp7y3So[/youtube]

[Bishop45]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpKyctdIOV0[/youtube]

[QUIZ]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqGEmv-IcvY[/youtube]

Shouldn't have pissed him off. 17-0 run after the bloody lip.

[QUIZ]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SFsWTr0AmI[/youtube]

One of our best runs. Everything was going right for us on both ends.

[daniel3]

Yes, and we know exactly why that is. Wade took a slightly larger paycut than the other 2 to keep Haslem, and then Bosh forced Riley to pay the max to make him stay in Miami, while Wade willingly took less to give us room to sign Deng.

Do you not realize that the very reason Wade has gotten screwed is because of the way max salaries are structured in the NBA, not some nefarious plan to underpay our franchise player? I'm sure you do, but it sounds better to just say "Aha, Bosh made a few million more than Wade, we are dicks!"

The truth is, if the NBA removed max salaries, we probably don't get the big 3 in 2010, but Wade easily gets 30-40 million a season at least, and this is all a moot point.

Bottom line, Wade, Riley, and most importantly Andy all understood how the cap works, and everytime Wade took a paycut, it was a situation where he was heavily involved with it. The only time you could argue he didn't get what he wanted outside of obviously this summer, was last summer, because he could not get a 3-year deal. He wanted to be the one to take less to sign Udonis in 2010, and he wanted to sacrifice to be able to sign Deng in 2014 in order for us to be semi-competitive.

By the way, your Wade/Dirk salary comparison is extremely disingenous when put the way you did it, as you're ignoring the inflation I just mentioned, Dirk's 4 highest salaried seasons came in his 12th, 14th, 15th and 16th seasons in the league. Wade's actually going to see a similar thing happen, his 2 highest salaried seasons will be his 14th and 15th (because of the cap raises). In the NBA, your max salary rises the more years you are in the league, and Dirk has always been in the league longer than Wade, and was pretty much always eligible for a higher max whenever you compare them in the same year.

And I'm not arguing Wade wasn't clearly our best player in the playoffs last season, or that he's some ungrateful snob who takes all his advice from LeBron now, like some posters. I think those takes are mostly if not totally wrong.

Eh, your first sentence explained its not max salaries, but Wade's willingness to agree to taking less in order to better team. Something no one else but Haslem did. It's a mistake Wade should have seen earlier and not repeated once Lebron left, but dude finally wised up.

[daniel3]

Hope Wade comes back and retires here, shame to see him call it quits in a Bulls jersey.

[Enso]

Could we make an effort to keep this on topic? Reminder: It is the Dwyane Wade appreciation thread.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JotFO_LZMBw[/youtube]

Plenty of other threads for trolling etc.

not gonna lie that gave me the feels

[Enso]

Hope Wade comes back and retires here, shame to see him call it quits in a Bulls jersey.

I think he will. He'll come back and take on the 6th man role. Win a ring one last time. Would be such a great story. One can only hope.

[Enso]

Is this the Wade Appreciation Thread or the Riley Ran Over My Dog Thread?

Here's a game from 2007, just before he dislocated his shoulder.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vnqx66eWwI[/youtube]

Still think this was the best version of Wade, even better than the 08-09 one, his shooting motion was more fluid and I think he didn't really need the extra muscle.

Agree 100% . Everything he does in this video seems like it's in slow motion yet he's faster than everyone else. Prime Wade was something else.

It was all down hill after that injury. He gained weight. Then the knee problems. He redeemed himself in 08 and came back in amazing shape but this right was special.

I remember hating Battier so much after he injured Wade. Now I love the guy.

[Enso]

Remember when he straight up merked Shaq and the Suns? lol

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRsYltGChOc[/youtube]

[Shewasfly]