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Re: Ty Lawson 

Post#41 » by Redeemed » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:43 pm

I would hate to see us pursuing reclamation projects like Ty Lawson, Dion Waiters, or Lance Stephenson. The growth of our young core and our developmental players is too important to take a chance on disrupting chemistry. We have taken a conservative approach to building a team that can grow into something special and contend for years to come.
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Re: Re: Re: Ty Lawson 

Post#42 » by Pharaoh » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:17 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
Alexander wrote:http://www.givemesport.com/831885-evan-turner-and-lance-stephenson-are-two-contrasting-examples-of-team-building-attitudes

Maybe this answers/raises some questions about our board's impression of Stephenson.


Poor Lance Stephenson. :violin:

People can talk or write articles all they want about statistics, but if a player has chemistry issues with teammates, they are not going to get paid.


Disappointed that in an article like that it was never mentioned that Stephenson is rumoured to have had numerous locker room altercations with team mates.

THAT IMO is why he hasn't been signed.

Teams will forgive a lot of stuff if you're talented - Lance hasn't been good enough to make up for his "eccentric" side, while Turner has.

Apparently Turner is hilarious...or so I've read
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Re: Re: Re: Ty Lawson 

Post#43 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:24 pm

Pharaoh wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
Alexander wrote:http://www.givemesport.com/831885-evan-turner-and-lance-stephenson-are-two-contrasting-examples-of-team-building-attitudes

Maybe this answers/raises some questions about our board's impression of Stephenson.


Poor Lance Stephenson. :violin:

People can talk or write articles all they want about statistics, but if a player has chemistry issues with teammates, they are not going to get paid.


Disappointed that in an article like that it was never mentioned that Stephenson is rumoured to have had numerous locker room altercations with team mates.

THAT IMO is why he hasn't been signed.

Teams will forgive a lot of stuff if you're talented - Lance hasn't been good enough to make up for his "eccentric" side, while Turner has.

Apparently Turner is hilarious...or so I've read


Boston's coach has praised Turners locker room presence a few times. That means he is a teammate on and off the court.
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Re: Ty Lawson 

Post#44 » by hoophabit » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:33 pm

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hoophabit wrote:Lawson, maybe in the right situation, and he had kept out of trouble. I don't know what to say about Curry other than he's just not the kind of guard SVG seems to covet. 6'1" with a 6'4" wingspan isn't the kind of athlete management seems to prefer. SVG, given the Dinwiddie experiment and drafting Hilliard and Gbinjie, seems to be looking for size and length in his backup guards.


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Van Gundy brought in D.J. Augustin too. It seems like decent size and length is something he's looking for in shooting guards/wings, but I'm not sure that holds true for point guards.


I'd have to say I undersold Curry's legitimacy as a point guard. I confess I thought of him as being kind of a shooting specialist. Upon examining his stats more closely I wonder if he might have been a contender for the spot Ish occupies. Did the Pistons make the right decision? Maybe the reported endorsements from former teammates currently on the Pistons were important?
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Re: Ty Lawson 

Post#45 » by coordinator0 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:42 pm

hoophabit wrote:I'd have to say I undersold Curry's legitimacy as a point guard. I confess I thought of him as being kind of a shooting specialist. Upon examining his stats more closely I wonder if he might have been a contender for the spot Ish occupies. Did the Pistons make the right decision? Maybe the reported endorsements from former teammates currently on the Pistons were important?


That's the thing, Curry is pretty unknown at being able to actually run an offense. He might only be a shooting specialist. Detroit couldn't take that kind of risk on their primary backup point guard. If Jackson goes down and they don't have anybody to facilitate and move the offense then they're in a world of trouble. Smith, despite his faults, can do that somewhat at least.
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Re: Ty Lawson 

Post#46 » by hoophabit » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:16 pm

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hoophabit wrote:I'd have to say I undersold Curry's legitimacy as a point guard. I confess I thought of him as being kind of a shooting specialist. Upon examining his stats more closely I wonder if he might have been a contender for the spot Ish occupies. Did the Pistons make the right decision? Maybe the reported endorsements from former teammates currently on the Pistons were important?


That's the thing, Curry is pretty unknown at being able to actually run an offense. He might only be a shooting specialist. Detroit couldn't take that kind of risk on their primary backup point guard. If Jackson goes down and they don't have anybody to facilitate and move the offense then they're in a world of trouble. Smith, despite his faults, can do that somewhat at least.


He had a 20-15 game down the stretch last season, albeit for Sac vs. Phx late. 15 assists says he willingly shares the ball. Ish has started more games.
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Re: Ty Lawson 

Post#47 » by coordinator0 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:21 pm

hoophabit wrote:He had a 20-15 game down the stretch last season, albeit for Sac vs. Phx late. 15 assists says he willingly shares the ball. Ish has started more games.


Can't put any stock into one game against the tanking Suns or even much stock in the short stretch of games he started at the end of the season. Curry is very unproven on the NBA stage, although his shooting should still be really good. Seth fits in Dallas pretty well because they also have Barea and Harris to backup at point guard, but if Detroit chose him over Smith they wouldn't have anywhere near that kind of luxury.
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Re: Ty Lawson 

Post#48 » by hoophabit » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:55 pm

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hoophabit wrote:He had a 20-15 game down the stretch last season, albeit for Sac vs. Phx late. 15 assists says he willingly shares the ball. Ish has started more games.


Can't put any stock into one game against the tanking Suns or even much stock in the short stretch of games he started at the end of the season. Curry is very unproven on the NBA stage, although his shooting should still be really good. Seth fits in Dallas pretty well because they also have Barea and Harris to backup at point guard, but if Detroit chose him over Smith they wouldn't have anywhere near that kind of luxury.


I'm not advocating that Curry would have been the better choice. I was just acknowledging that he might have better PG skills than I initially thought. Ish's greater experience against front line players and his support by current Pistons makes his selection appear reasonable.
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Re: Ty Lawson 

Post#49 » by A_dub06 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:14 pm

Waiters just signed a $2.9m contract with the heat :0


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