Official Caris LeVert Thread

[MrDollarBills]

Guys who are out for self will not see playing time, I'm not sure why this is even an issue. from the group that we have they were picked up because they are coachable and will buy in.

[Prokorov]

OK, so Thad isn't a very good player. Trading him means having the possibility of landing young players with upside. It didn't happen. But LeVert could end up a better player. What not to like? If he is healthy and can play D it's a good trade.

i was all for the thad trade... lvoed it... but i assumed marks wouldnt waste the cap room on F tier scrubs like hamilton and booker. but he did. making the trade a monumental failure as that money was needed to upgrade the wings. only he got no wings.

Levert is irrelevant. trade was about the cap space. he is a minor throw in and a longshot to be mroe then a role player

They still have cap space to be used in a trade during the season if someone worth while is available. Worst case scenario they keep the cap space for next summer.

that was the space we already had.

thads money was used on booker/hamilton

the trade was badically thad for booker/hanilton/#20

[Prokorov]

Guys who are out for self will not see playing time, I'm not sure why this is even an issue. from the group that we have they were picked up because they are coachable and will buy in.

this isnt hickory high though... this is the NBA and you need talent. it will be cool if we develop a few demarre carroles, but less cool when we go 10-72 doing it and even less cool when they are waiting for the first ticket out of town.

[MrDollarBills]

Guys who are out for self will not see playing time, I'm not sure why this is even an issue. from the group that we have they were picked up because they are coachable and will buy in.

this isnt hickory high though... this is the NBA and you need talent. it will be cool if we develop a few demarre carroles, but less cool when we go 10-72 doing it and even less cool when they are waiting for the first ticket out of town.

I don't expect to win. I expect to see effort and team basketball.

if anyone plays mercenary ball out there i will wager cash they will be benched and or bought out if it becomes toxic. but looking at the roster i don't see that happening.

[kamaze]

i was all for the thad trade... lvoed it... but i assumed marks wouldnt waste the cap room on F tier scrubs like hamilton and booker. but he did. making the trade a monumental failure as that money was needed to upgrade the wings. only he got no wings.

Levert is irrelevant. trade was about the cap space. he is a minor throw in and a longshot to be mroe then a role player

They still have cap space to be used in a trade during the season if someone worth while is available. Worst case scenario they keep the cap space for next summer.

that was the space we already had.

thads money was used on booker/hamilton

the trade was badically thad for booker/hanilton/#20

What are you talking about? The cap space is all in the same jar.

[kamaze]

I don't get your point Thad was traded so Marks had more flexibility to build a team LeVert is part of the plan. What did you expect? they were a bad, capped out team last year he couldn't do much the Nets (in Brooklyn not just NJ) have a bad rep but the culture is changing. Give him some credit if the fans won't who will?

Marks said it would be hard to lure free agents here...That's not how you build a good team anyway he came from San Antonio that organization's the blueprint.
He got Jeremy Lin and aimed for Tyler Johnson so we would have a new back court and some role players but they matched it happens. He didn't overreact and throw money at players that don't fit whatever vision the coach has.

My bad on the double post my computer is acting up.

[Prokorov]

They still have cap space to be used in a trade during the season if someone worth while is available. Worst case scenario they keep the cap space for next summer.

that was the space we already had.

thads money was used on booker/hamilton

the trade was badically thad for booker/hanilton/#20

What are you talking about? The cap space is all in the same jar.

we saved 12M with thad. those two make 12 million and play the same position.

[Prokorov]

I don't get your point Thad was traded so Marks had more flexibility to build a team LeVert is part of the plan. What did you expect? they were a bad, capped out team last year he couldn't do much the Nets (in Brooklyn not just NJ) have a bad rep but the culture is changing. Give him some credit if the fans won't who will?

Marks said it would be hard to lure free agents here...That's not how you build a good team anyway he came from San Antonio that organization's the blueprint.
He got Jeremy Lin and aimed for Tyler Johnson so we would have a new back court and some role players but they matched it happens. He didn't overreact and throw money at players that don't fit whatever vision the coach has.

My bad on the double post my computer is acting up.

san antonios blueprint doesnt work in the real world where you dont have a top 10 all-time player on your team injury free for 20 years. there is, literally, no "blueprint" that doesnt work with a healthy tim duncan on your team.

We dont even have tim robbins, let alone tim duncan. this nickle and diming and being cheap and trying to outsmart people doesnt work with no talent and no picks. marks is going to look up in 3 years and have a team of role players with sub 30 wins and realize he'll never get talent if he keeps lowballing FAs and staying away from anyone who wants big money.

[MGrand15]

I don't really see the issue with what Marks did. This was the toughest free agency year in recent times. EVERYONE had cap space and we're a disaster of a team. That's not going to happen moving forward. Overpaying and ruining our flexibility for the future is exactly how we got into this mess. I'd 100% take a chance on a lottery level talent in Lavert, take flyers on young guys and go for the right fit in FA. Giving a guy like Marvin Williams 3 year 60 mil doesn't move our needle much and kills us next year and the year after.

Maybe I'm just really high on Lavert but if he can stay healthy (CJ McCollum also slipped cause of injuries) - I think he can contribute right out of the gate.

We basically have a couple of "stable" pieces in Lin, Lopez, Booker, Vasquez, Bojan. We need to hope they speed up the development curve of Lavert, RHJ, and McCullough. Throw in wild cards like Whitehead, Kilpatrick, Bennett, Harris. I'm fine with waiting for legit upgrades next year. If some of those guys show flashes, we'll be a lot more attractive with more money to spend than most teams.

[MrDollarBills]

I don't get your point Thad was traded so Marks had more flexibility to build a team LeVert is part of the plan. What did you expect? they were a bad, capped out team last year he couldn't do much the Nets (in Brooklyn not just NJ) have a bad rep but the culture is changing. Give him some credit if the fans won't who will?

Marks said it would be hard to lure free agents here...That's not how you build a good team anyway he came from San Antonio that organization's the blueprint.
He got Jeremy Lin and aimed for Tyler Johnson so we would have a new back court and some role players but they matched it happens. He didn't overreact and throw money at players that don't fit whatever vision the coach has.

My bad on the double post my computer is acting up.

san antonios blueprint doesnt work in the real world where you dont have a top 10 all-time player on your team injury free for 20 years. there is, literally, no "blueprint" that doesnt work with a healthy tim duncan on your team.

We dont even have tim robbins, let alone tim duncan. this nickle and diming and being cheap and trying to outsmart people doesnt work with no talent and no picks. marks is going to look up in 3 years and have a team of role players with sub 30 wins and realize he'll never get talent if he keeps lowballing FAs and staying away from anyone who wants big money.

so are you saying you'd be fine offering bazemore 94 mil?

[kamaze]

that was the space we already had.

thads money was used on booker/hamilton

the trade was badically thad for booker/hanilton/#20

What are you talking about? The cap space is all in the same jar.

we saved 12M with thad. those two make 12 million and play the same position.

:Facepam forget it.

[kamaze]

I don't get your point Thad was traded so Marks had more flexibility to build a team LeVert is part of the plan. What did you expect? they were a bad, capped out team last year he couldn't do much the Nets (in Brooklyn not just NJ) have a bad rep but the culture is changing. Give him some credit if the fans won't who will?

Marks said it would be hard to lure free agents here...That's not how you build a good team anyway he came from San Antonio that organization's the blueprint.
He got Jeremy Lin and aimed for Tyler Johnson so we would have a new back court and some role players but they matched it happens. He didn't overreact and throw money at players that don't fit whatever vision the coach has.

My bad on the double post my computer is acting up.

san antonios blueprint doesnt work in the real world where you dont have a top 10 all-time player on your team injury free for 20 years. there is, literally, no "blueprint" that doesnt work with a healthy tim duncan on your team.

We dont even have tim robbins, let alone tim duncan. this nickle and diming and being cheap and trying to outsmart people doesnt work with no talent and no picks. marks is going to look up in 3 years and have a team of role players with sub 30 wins and realize he'll never get talent if he keeps lowballing FAs and staying away from anyone who wants big money.

The hell are you talking about San Antonio's moves are in the real world you arrogant POS. You gotta start from somewhere.

[kamaze]

I don't get your point Thad was traded so Marks had more flexibility to build a team LeVert is part of the plan. What did you expect? they were a bad, capped out team last year he couldn't do much the Nets (in Brooklyn not just NJ) have a bad rep but the culture is changing. Give him some credit if the fans won't who will?

Marks said it would be hard to lure free agents here...That's not how you build a good team anyway he came from San Antonio that organization's the blueprint.
He got Jeremy Lin and aimed for Tyler Johnson so we would have a new back court and some role players but they matched it happens. He didn't overreact and throw money at players that don't fit whatever vision the coach has.

My bad on the double post my computer is acting up.

san antonios blueprint doesnt work in the real world where you dont have a top 10 all-time player on your team injury free for 20 years. there is, literally, no "blueprint" that doesnt work with a healthy tim duncan on your team.

We dont even have tim robbins, let alone tim duncan. this nickle and diming and being cheap and trying to outsmart people doesnt work with no talent and no picks. marks is going to look up in 3 years and have a team of role players with sub 30 wins and realize he'll never get talent if he keeps lowballing FAs and staying away from anyone who wants big money.

so are you saying you'd be fine offering bazemore 94 mil?

He doesn't know what he wants the type to think they're smarter than they are when he's wrong all the time.

[CalamityX12]

Is this still a Caris LeVert thread? lol

cheers

[ChokeFasncists]

Is this still a Caris LeVert thread? lol

cheers

I guess LeVert = No Thad, No Thad = capspace, capspace ≠ RFA, No RFA = Marks sucks?

So it becomes a Marks sucks thread.

[Prokorov]

I don't get your point Thad was traded so Marks had more flexibility to build a team LeVert is part of the plan. What did you expect? they were a bad, capped out team last year he couldn't do much the Nets (in Brooklyn not just NJ) have a bad rep but the culture is changing. Give him some credit if the fans won't who will?

Marks said it would be hard to lure free agents here...That's not how you build a good team anyway he came from San Antonio that organization's the blueprint.
He got Jeremy Lin and aimed for Tyler Johnson so we would have a new back court and some role players but they matched it happens. He didn't overreact and throw money at players that don't fit whatever vision the coach has.

My bad on the double post my computer is acting up.

san antonios blueprint doesnt work in the real world where you dont have a top 10 all-time player on your team injury free for 20 years. there is, literally, no "blueprint" that doesnt work with a healthy tim duncan on your team.

We dont even have tim robbins, let alone tim duncan. this nickle and diming and being cheap and trying to outsmart people doesnt work with no talent and no picks. marks is going to look up in 3 years and have a team of role players with sub 30 wins and realize he'll never get talent if he keeps lowballing FAs and staying away from anyone who wants big money.

so are you saying you'd be fine offering bazemore 94 mil?

id have been fine offering him 84 million. i dont know if id max him though. i certainly wouldnt have offered him the same as other teams. i would have offered the max to parsons or barnes or both.

[Prokorov]

I don't get your point Thad was traded so Marks had more flexibility to build a team LeVert is part of the plan. What did you expect? they were a bad, capped out team last year he couldn't do much the Nets (in Brooklyn not just NJ) have a bad rep but the culture is changing. Give him some credit if the fans won't who will?

Marks said it would be hard to lure free agents here...That's not how you build a good team anyway he came from San Antonio that organization's the blueprint.
He got Jeremy Lin and aimed for Tyler Johnson so we would have a new back court and some role players but they matched it happens. He didn't overreact and throw money at players that don't fit whatever vision the coach has.

My bad on the double post my computer is acting up.

san antonios blueprint doesnt work in the real world where you dont have a top 10 all-time player on your team injury free for 20 years. there is, literally, no "blueprint" that doesnt work with a healthy tim duncan on your team.

We dont even have tim robbins, let alone tim duncan. this nickle and diming and being cheap and trying to outsmart people doesnt work with no talent and no picks. marks is going to look up in 3 years and have a team of role players with sub 30 wins and realize he'll never get talent if he keeps lowballing FAs and staying away from anyone who wants big money.

The hell are you talking about San Antonio's moves are in the real world you arrogant POS. You gotta start from somewhere.

they started with Tim Duncan... thats fantasyland for us. we dont have tim duncan, we dont have the means to get tim duncan and who knows how long before the league ever even sees another tim duncan.

this "do it the spurs way" stuff is not possible in the nets world. because dont have one of the 10 greatest players of all time on our team. there is little you can do when you have tim duncan that DOESNT work. all this praise of the spurs are great, but those things dont work out well when you are putting D tier "hard workers" around brook lopez instead of B and C tier hard workers around tim duncan.

[kamaze]

san antonios blueprint doesnt work in the real world where you dont have a top 10 all-time player on your team injury free for 20 years. there is, literally, no "blueprint" that doesnt work with a healthy tim duncan on your team.

We dont even have tim robbins, let alone tim duncan. this nickle and diming and being cheap and trying to outsmart people doesnt work with no talent and no picks. marks is going to look up in 3 years and have a team of role players with sub 30 wins and realize he'll never get talent if he keeps lowballing FAs and staying away from anyone who wants big money.

The hell are you talking about San Antonio's moves are in the real world you arrogant POS. You gotta start from somewhere.

they started with Tim Duncan... thats fantasyland for us. we dont have tim duncan, we dont have the means to get tim duncan and who knows how long before the league ever even sees another tim duncan.

this "do it the spurs way" stuff is not possible in the nets world. because dont have one of the 10 greatest players of all time on our team. there is little you can do when you have tim duncan that DOESNT work. all this praise of the spurs are great, but those things dont work out well when you are putting D tier "hard workers" around brook lopez instead of B and C tier hard workers around tim duncan.

No one's talking about Tim Duncan except you... They made moves a certain way before him and they'll continue now that he's retired.

[Prokorov]

The hell are you talking about San Antonio's moves are in the real world you arrogant POS. You gotta start from somewhere.

they started with Tim Duncan... thats fantasyland for us. we dont have tim duncan, we dont have the means to get tim duncan and who knows how long before the league ever even sees another tim duncan.

this "do it the spurs way" stuff is not possible in the nets world. because dont have one of the 10 greatest players of all time on our team. there is little you can do when you have tim duncan that DOESNT work. all this praise of the spurs are great, but those things dont work out well when you are putting D tier "hard workers" around brook lopez instead of B and C tier hard workers around tim duncan.

No one's talking about Tim Duncan except you... They made moves a certain way before him and they'll continue now that he's retired.

and they won exactly ZERO NBA championships before duncan. they didnt become the winning machine they are now until Duncan arrived. you cant have a commentary on the spurs way of managing and building a team and ignore that 90% of that revolved around having tim duncan, a top 10 player all time, on that team for 20 years without injury.

[ChokeFasncists]

Well, OTOH, the Pop blueprint has worked better than any other recently (not counting getting big 3s talent)

It was pretty amazing that they won championships even when Duncan had declined. They were able to keep winning, draft low and get elite players. They are a small market team that doesn't spend but can get big FAs with unique team oriented recruiting.

Their former staff and players are pretty successful on multiple teams.

Duncan was a big part of it. No Duncan no Spurs culture, not just the player on the court.