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Post#141 » by T-Cat » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:29 pm

I see Aaron Gordon as a fan favorite in the NBA and will be on the Eastern Conference All-Star Team as a starter!
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Post#142 » by mr2good » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:51 pm

T-Cat wrote:I see Aaron Gordon as a fan favorite in the NBA and will be on the Eastern Conference All-Star Team as a starter!


Love the optimism! It may not be next year, but he's definitely going to have multiple all star appearances representing the magic!!
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Post#143 » by OrlMagic05 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:01 pm

I hope I am wrong, but I see a more athletic Shane Battier written all over AG.
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Post#144 » by tiderulz » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:11 pm

OrlMagic05 wrote:I hope I am wrong, but I see a more athletic Shane Battier written all over AG.

except Shane could shoot
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Post#145 » by fklt » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:14 pm

I think AG is as unique as it gets.
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Post#146 » by Audi » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:22 pm

At the very least, I've already seen glimpses of AG that lead me to believe his floor is GOAT dunker. That's exciting in and of itself.
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Post#147 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:18 am

OrlMagic05 wrote:I hope I am wrong, but I see a more athletic Shane Battier written all over AG.

Battier couldn't jump and fly like AG.

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Post#148 » by ivDT » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:11 am

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NavalAviator94 wrote:I think he is going to break out next year. I see him somewhere in the below range as a full time starter with better shooting. Where does everyone else think he'll end up?

17.5 pts, 8.5 reb, 2.8 assists, 1 block


Points wise I don't see his Stats going that high. I have him 11-13 pts, 7-9 reb, 3 asst. With exceptional defense. It all depends on his minutes and opportunities he gets on offense. We all know he is going to be guarding the best the perimeter player every night or at least we hope.


if he's not then vogel should be brought up on fraud charges.
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Post#149 » by drsd » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:52 am

T-Cat wrote:I see Aaron Gordon as a fan favorite in the NBA and will be on the Eastern Conference All-Star Team as a starter!


If he found his jumper this year and has regular Vinsanity-type dunks to add to 20 ppg+, then I agree. But if he is a 11-14 ppg guy, he is not an all-star. Being a Sky-walker is not enough. "ppg" is the main fan indicator for all-star selection.


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Post#150 » by Melvinlocker » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:28 pm

3ddman23 wrote:
NavalAviator94 wrote:I think he is going to break out next year. I see him somewhere in the below range as a full time starter with better shooting. Where does everyone else think he'll end up?

17.5 pts, 8.5 reb, 2.8 assists, 1 block


Points wise I don't see his Stats going that high. I have him 11-13 pts, 7-9 reb, 3 asst. With exceptional defense. It all depends on his minutes and opportunities he gets on offense. We all know he is going to be guarding the best the perimeter player every night or at least we hope.


I think at his peak, AG will have the numbers that Naval posted. However, he will not have many opportunities to expand his role in the SL this year. Vucevic had a usage rate above 25% last year. Evan and Elfrid were both around of 20%. Serge had a usage rate that was a shade below 18%, but we've already promised him a feature role in the offense. I'd imagine he's getting at least 20% usage rate this year as well. I'm not sure AG will have the opportunity to grow into a featured role this season.

Switching Bismack with Vuc in the SL doesn't help us either because it kills our spacing and forces one of our existing players to carry an unsustainable usage rate. We don't have that kind of superstar scorer on our team at the moment.

It's also problematic that the highest usage player on our team doesn't draw free throws. We've also acquired Serge who will present the same issue (worse than Vuc in this regard). In fact, there's a great possibility that the best player at drawing fouls in the SL, could also be our lowest usage player (Aaron).

With all of that said, I think we make the playoffs this year, but our offense is gonna be very clunky.
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Post#151 » by Def Swami » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:28 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:I hope I am wrong, but I see a more athletic Shane Battier written all over AG.

Battier couldn't jump and fly like AG.

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And no one had to teach Battier to shoot from scratch.
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Re: Aaron Gordon's future 

Post#152 » by tiderulz » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:11 pm

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T-Cat wrote:I see Aaron Gordon as a fan favorite in the NBA and will be on the Eastern Conference All-Star Team as a starter!


If he found his jumper this year and has regular Vinsanity-type dunks to add to 20 ppg+, then I agree. But if he is a 11-14 ppg guy, he is not an all-star. Being a Sky-walker is not enough. "ppg" is the main fan indicator for all-star selection.


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generally, Horford has never been a big ppg guy and got multiple all-stars. Korver got in 2 years ago without much ppg.
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Post#153 » by j-ragg » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:08 pm

All we have to do is win 60 games and he's in!
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Post#155 » by Jiwol » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:55 am

tiderulz wrote:
drsd wrote:
T-Cat wrote:I see Aaron Gordon as a fan favorite in the NBA and will be on the Eastern Conference All-Star Team as a starter!


If he found his jumper this year and has regular Vinsanity-type dunks to add to 20 ppg+, then I agree. But if he is a 11-14 ppg guy, he is not an all-star. Being a Sky-walker is not enough. "ppg" is the main fan indicator for all-star selection.


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generally, Horford has never been a big ppg guy and got multiple all-stars. Korver got in 2 years ago without much ppg.


They were talking about fan voting.
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Re: Aaron Gordon's future 

Post#156 » by tiderulz » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:30 am

Jiwol wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
drsd wrote:
If he found his jumper this year and has regular Vinsanity-type dunks to add to 20 ppg+, then I agree. But if he is a 11-14 ppg guy, he is not an all-star. Being a Sky-walker is not enough. "ppg" is the main fan indicator for all-star selection.


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generally, Horford has never been a big ppg guy and got multiple all-stars. Korver got in 2 years ago without much ppg.


They were talking about fan voting.


and saying that you need ppg to get the fans to vote for you. Yet Horford and Korver show that you dont need ppg to get in
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Re: Aaron Gordon's future 

Post#157 » by Mc-o » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:39 am

tiderulz wrote:
Jiwol wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
generally, Horford has never been a big ppg guy and got multiple all-stars. Korver got in 2 years ago without much ppg.


They were talking about fan voting.


and saying that you need ppg to get the fans to vote for you. Yet Horford and Korver show that you dont need ppg to get in

I don't think either of them were voted by fans , I think the coaches added them to the all star . I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the fans vote the starters and the coaches vote the bench .
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Re: Aaron Gordon's future 

Post#158 » by tiderulz » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:51 am

Mc-o wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Jiwol wrote:
They were talking about fan voting.


and saying that you need ppg to get the fans to vote for you. Yet Horford and Korver show that you dont need ppg to get in

I don't think either of them were voted by fans , I think the coaches added them to the all star . I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the fans vote the starters and the coaches vote the bench .


i think you are correct with that. thats how Yao always got in
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Post#159 » by Mc-o » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:51 am

Mc-o wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Jiwol wrote:
They were talking about fan voting.


and saying that you need ppg to get the fans to vote for you. Yet Horford and Korver show that you dont need ppg to get in

I don't think either of them were voted by fans , I think the coaches added them to the all star . I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the fans vote the starters and the coaches vote the bench .

Lol I forgot about the Yao years


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Re: Aaron Gordon's future 

Post#160 » by drsd » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:39 pm

tiderulz wrote:Yet Horford and Korver show that you dont need ppg to get in


Weren't both coaches votes to get in?


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