2017 All Star Game Moved From Charlotte

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North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) takes the stage at Trump's rally and jokes: "If any of you need to use the restroom..." Crowd laughs.

Our governor thinks the state losing millions to potentially billions of dollar is something to joke about.

[EwingSweatsALot]

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North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) takes the stage at Trump's rally and jokes: "If any of you need to use the restroom..." Crowd laughs.

Our governor thinks the state losing millions to potentially billions of dollar is something to joke about.

Was he this clueless and moronic when he was mayor of Charlotte? Living in SC and not caring much about politics I didn't follow him at all really.

[fatlever]

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North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) takes the stage at Trump's rally and jokes: "If any of you need to use the restroom..." Crowd laughs.

Our governor thinks the state losing millions to potentially billions of dollar is something to joke about.

Was he this clueless and moronic when he was mayor of Charlotte? Living in SC and not caring much about politics I didn't follow him at all really.

Well, he was mayor when the Hornets left the city for New Orleans. Even though that was 75% Shinn/Woolridges fault, McCrory certainly did not help.

[HornetJail]

Good for the Canes:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NHLCanes/status/713444024149913600[/tweet]

If you vote for the LGBT laws you apparently do support discrimination against those with traditional values. That is why LGBT want this passed, so they can continue their crusade of suing everything that has to do with Christianity.

Traditional values my ass. 20 years from now, this whole thing is going to be looked back on like we look at the civil rights movements in the 50s-70s. Except instead of skin color, it's about which body parts you have. Remember when the ability to own slaves, or make "colored people" go to separate places from white people, was a "traditional value"? Keep living in the 60s bro. Using religion to justify your hate of a group of people is borderline extremist behavior.

The whole "persecuted christian" act is an absolute joke by the way

[HornetJail]

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North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) takes the stage at Trump's rally and jokes: "If any of you need to use the restroom..." Crowd laughs.

Our governor thinks the state losing millions to potentially billions of dollar is something to joke about.

If this clown (and the congressmen who let this happen) get re-elected, the state kind of deserves it.

[yosemiteben]

Kemba not exactly shying away from this issue: http://www.theplayerstribune.com/kemba-walker-hornets-how-i-can-help/

[Cheeze]

All laws discriminate against someone. There is no law that 'includes' everyone. And the argument for inclusion is weak. The NBA is a male-only league. I'm sure Kemba would welcome a female on the team if she could play. But the fact is that the NBA discriminates against women. There's no backlash against it because it's a JUST discrimination. Young men can't apply for membership in the NBA club until they've spent a year out of high school. That rule discriminates due to age. The NBA is one of the most EXCLUSIVE clubs in this country. I don't buy the inclusiveness argument.

HB2 has holes and there are parts of it I think are overreach that should be modified or removed. The bathroom part of the law, the MINOR part, the part that's getting all the attention, re-applies a JUST discrimination that the city of Charlotte attempted to remove. HB2 isn't discriminatory against gays. It isn't anti-bi. It's not even anti-transgender. Where a person went to the bathroom wasn't a problem before the city's ordinance and it isn't a problem now with HB2. A transgender person will go in the bathroom of their choice and there won't be anybody there to kick them out any more than there were bathroom police before the ordinance. Pervs will get theirs no matter which bathroom they go in to.

The rhetoric over this minor issue is laughably insane. And now the exclusive all-boys millionaire's club has picked it as a banner call for social change. Folks should have the right to sue if they've been discriminated against unjustly. Communities should be able to set their own wage standards. Those are the real issues that need to be discussed. As for bathrooms, I don't want women in my bathroom and I certainly don't want men in my wife's and daughters' bathroom either. That's proper and just separation.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Actually there is no rule preventing women from playing in the NBA. As far back as the 1980s women have tried out for teams. In 2013 Cuban made a bit of news when he was considering Brittney Griner for the Mavs. I suspect that we eventually may see a woman playing - though ironically I have no idea how they will work out the locker room logistics.

The WNBA *is* exclusive.

[fatlever]

How Mecklenburg county senate and house reps voted
http://www.charlottefive.com/nba-all-star-game-hb2/

Is Charlotte really against HB2?

The feel in Charlotte is that the city, as a whole, is against HB2, probably because the City Council passed the LGBT nondiscrimination ordinance that started this whole thing back in February. Whether or not that’s true depends on who you ask. McCrory is the face of HB2, but 114 elected officials in North Carolina voted for the bill, 26 voted no, and 28 were absent.

Mecklenburg County has 12 members in the state house, and how they voted may surprise you:
5 Mecklenburg County state representatives voted for HB2:

– Republican Dan Bishop
– Republican Jacqueline Michelle Schaffer (who has since resigned)
– Republican John R. Bradford, III
– Republican Rob Bryan
– Republican William Brawley
And 4 voted against:

– Democrat Carla D. Cunningham
– Democrat Kelly M. Alexander, Jr
– Democrat Rodney W. Moore
– Democrat Tricia Ann Cotham

(Democrats Becky Carney and Beverly M. Earle, and Republican Charles Jeter — who announced his resignation yesterday — were absent.)

So more Mecklenburg County state representatives voted for HB2 than voted against it. If these Representatives truly reflect the area, can Charlotte say it’s against HB2?
The N.C. Senate is a slightly different story.

Only one senator from Mecklenburg County voted for HB2: Republican Jeff Tarte. The rest did not attend the session:

– Democrat Joel D.M. Ford
– Democrat Jeff Jackson
– Republican Bob Rucho
– Democrat Joyce Waddell
Here’s what we should be thinking about.

Whether you’re upset at the loss in revenue and national attention or you think this is all “PC BS” from the NBA, it’s important to know these people and how they voted. The governor may or may not get elected in November, but there are 17 other Mecklenburg County officials that make decisions for us and our state. It’s important to know who these people are and know if they truly represent your views.

[SWedd523]

Good luck finding any politician who represents all of your views

[LofJ]

Good luck finding any politician who represents all of your views

It's pretty easy actually, you just need to visit a mirror. Hopefully one day elections will be publicly funded and more people will be able to run for office.

[SWedd523]

All laws discriminate against someone. There is no law that 'includes' everyone. And the argument for inclusion is weak. The NBA is a male-only league. I'm sure Kemba would welcome a female on the team if she could play. But the fact is that the NBA discriminates against women. There's no backlash against it because it's a JUST discrimination. Young men can't apply for membership in the NBA club until they've spent a year out of high school. That rule discriminates due to age. The NBA is one of the most EXCLUSIVE clubs in this country. I don't buy the inclusiveness argument.

HB2 has holes and there are parts of it I think are overreach that should be modified or removed. The bathroom part of the law, the MINOR part, the part that's getting all the attention, re-applies a JUST discrimination that the city of Charlotte attempted to remove. HB2 isn't discriminatory against gays. It isn't anti-bi. It's not even anti-transgender. Where a person went to the bathroom wasn't a problem before the city's ordinance and it isn't a problem now with HB2. A transgender person will go in the bathroom of their choice and there won't be anybody there to kick them out any more than there were bathroom police before the ordinance. Pervs will get theirs no matter which bathroom they go in to.

The rhetoric over this minor issue is laughably insane. And now the exclusive all-boys millionaire's club has picked it as a banner call for social change. Folks should have the right to sue if they've been discriminated against unjustly. Communities should be able to set their own wage standards. Those are the real issues that need to be discussed. As for bathrooms, I don't want women in my bathroom and I certainly don't want men in my wife's and daughters' bathroom either. That's proper and just separation.

And this is actually a pretty interesting argument for me personally as it's not just happening in regular society, though the discussion is obviously centered around different aspects.

SecDef Carter came out recently and opened all military jobs to women and transgender people, including Army and Marines Infantry and all positions in Special Operations. Women have already attended (and dubiously passed through) Ranger School and it was just announced that the first two women have been approved to attend SFAS.

Times are definitely changing

[SWedd523]

Good luck finding any politician who represents all of your views

It's pretty easy actually, you just need to visit a mirror. Hopefully one day elections will be publicly funded and more people will be able to run for office.

any politician holding office*

Without delving into a broader political discussion, I think term limits for Congress should be implemented immediately. That might help curtail some of the bull these jagaloons have been doing in recent years (decades).

[SpearNMgicHelmt]

Jenna JohnsonVerified account
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North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) takes the stage at Trump's rally and jokes: "If any of you need to use the restroom..." Crowd laughs.

Our governor thinks the state losing millions to potentially billions of dollar is something to joke about.

If this clown (and the congressmen who let this happen) get re-elected, the state kind of deserves it.

I think McCrory is probably toast. But with the rest, NC currently has districts that are gerrymandered heavily in favor of the Republicans.

[fatlever]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article92477882.html

Finger pointing from McCrory

[Eoghan]

All laws discriminate against someone. There is no law that 'includes' everyone. And the argument for inclusion is weak. The NBA is a male-only league. I'm sure Kemba would welcome a female on the team if she could play. But the fact is that the NBA discriminates against women. There's no backlash against it because it's a JUST discrimination. Young men can't apply for membership in the NBA club until they've spent a year out of high school. That rule discriminates due to age. The NBA is one of the most EXCLUSIVE clubs in this country. I don't buy the inclusiveness argument.

HB2 has holes and there are parts of it I think are overreach that should be modified or removed. The bathroom part of the law, the MINOR part, the part that's getting all the attention, re-applies a JUST discrimination that the city of Charlotte attempted to remove. HB2 isn't discriminatory against gays. It isn't anti-bi. It's not even anti-transgender. Where a person went to the bathroom wasn't a problem before the city's ordinance and it isn't a problem now with HB2. A transgender person will go in the bathroom of their choice and there won't be anybody there to kick them out any more than there were bathroom police before the ordinance. Pervs will get theirs no matter which bathroom they go in to.

The rhetoric over this minor issue is laughably insane. And now the exclusive all-boys millionaire's club has picked it as a banner call for social change. Folks should have the right to sue if they've been discriminated against unjustly. Communities should be able to set their own wage standards. Those are the real issues that need to be discussed. As for bathrooms, I don't want women in my bathroom and I certainly don't want men in my wife's and daughters' bathroom either. That's proper and just separation.

And this is actually a pretty interesting argument for me personally as it's not just happening in regular society, though the discussion is obviously centered around different aspects.

SecDef Carter came out recently and opened all military jobs to women and transgender people, including Army and Marines Infantry and all positions in Special Operations. Women have already attended (and dubiously passed through) Ranger School and it was just announced that the first two women have been approved to attend SFAS.

Times are definitely changing

Did they decide if women are eligible to be drafted into service? I remember hearing that it could be a possibility. What do service personnel think of women possibly being conscripted in the future?

[SWedd523]

Did they decide if women are eligible to be drafted into service? I remember hearing that it could be a possibility. What do service personnel think of women possibly being conscripted in the future?

It passed the Senate but (AFAIK) is waiting on the House to make a decision. Most are against women in combat or special duty roles, but the prevailing thought is that if they're allowed to go infantry, then it makes sense to open the draft (can't have one without the other argument).

[tonman]

All laws discriminate against someone. There is no law that 'includes' everyone. And the argument for inclusion is weak. The NBA is a male-only league. I'm sure Kemba would welcome a female on the team if she could play. But the fact is that the NBA discriminates against women. There's no backlash against it because it's a JUST discrimination. Young men can't apply for membership in the NBA club until they've spent a year out of high school. That rule discriminates due to age. The NBA is one of the most EXCLUSIVE clubs in this country. I don't buy the inclusiveness argument.

HB2 has holes and there are parts of it I think are overreach that should be modified or removed. The bathroom part of the law, the MINOR part, the part that's getting all the attention, re-applies a JUST discrimination that the city of Charlotte attempted to remove. HB2 isn't discriminatory against gays. It isn't anti-bi. It's not even anti-transgender. Where a person went to the bathroom wasn't a problem before the city's ordinance and it isn't a problem now with HB2. A transgender person will go in the bathroom of their choice and there won't be anybody there to kick them out any more than there were bathroom police before the ordinance. Pervs will get theirs no matter which bathroom they go in to.

The rhetoric over this minor issue is laughably insane. And now the exclusive all-boys millionaire's club has picked it as a banner call for social change. Folks should have the right to sue if they've been discriminated against unjustly. Communities should be able to set their own wage standards. Those are the real issues that need to be discussed. As for bathrooms, I don't want women in my bathroom and I certainly don't want men in my wife's and daughters' bathroom either. That's proper and just separation.

The problem is masses are asses. Communities setting their own wage standards may sound good unless you are the person getting screwed by that wage standard. The most important thing about this country is individual freedom. Do we have religious freedoms if Christians get to push their agenda on others? All these laws eroding away at abortion rights are for women's health. Did people survey all women to listen to what they want?

This law is a political stunt which put a lot of politicians in a bind because it touts religious freedom and in the south if you aren't church going, politics isn't in your future.

[tonman]

Did they decide if women are eligible to be drafted into service? I remember hearing that it could be a possibility. What do service personnel think of women possibly being conscripted in the future?

It passed the Senate but (AFAIK) is waiting on the House to make a decision. Most are against women in combat or special duty roles, but the prevailing thought is that if they're allowed to go infantry, then it makes sense to open the draft (can't have one without the other argument).

As mentioned above changes like this takes time. If we continue to view women as helpless weak and always needing someone to come to their rescue, little girls will continue to look pass activities and careers that are more physical in nature .... a man's job. That is why discrimination is a bad thing not only at current but it affects the future generations also. Hillary has a chance to be president. 50 to 60 years ago it was frowned upon if women looked to have a career instead of being a homemaker.

We can't legislate equality but we must be vigilant to prevent discrimination.

As to the draft, I don't think women would be opposed to the draft. But opening the door to military service to all the citizens in this country and not just half probably will make a draft moot.

[Snidely FC]

Rotten Tomatoes to the NBA for awarding this game to Louisiana, a state equally conservative to NC on the pertinent gender issues. Totally hypocritical.