Bismack Biyombo 2016 Offensive & Defensive Highlights

[PennytoShaq]

Coming from a raptors fan, you guys will be pretty satisfied with BIZ. First off his character, confidence is off the charts. His defensive IQ is also through the roof. Just having him on the team helped JV so much on the defensive end. On offense, hes not that bad if you limit him to easy stuff. He improved his ft % and he got more comfortable catching the ball as the season went on. He's also just 23 so he's still improving.

Man thats crazy. Blue and White seems to think all the TOR fas think Bismack is awful.

Thanks for sharing your perspective (which I agree with).

[Blue_and_Whte]

Coming from a raptors fan, you guys will be pretty satisfied with BIZ. First off his character, confidence is off the charts. His defensive IQ is also through the roof. Just having him on the team helped JV so much on the defensive end. On offense, hes not that bad if you limit him to easy stuff. He improved his ft % and he got more comfortable catching the ball as the season went on. He's also just 23 so he's still improving.

Man thats crazy. Blue and White seems to think all the TOR fas think Bismack is awful.

Thanks for sharing your perspective (which I agree with).

I wouldn't put it past you to think that because you lack basic critical thinking skills and apparently reading comprehension so you automatically assigned me the title of "Bismack Hater" because you don't have the ability nor the fortitude to refute the number of responses I got from RAPTOR FANS who's responses are the reciprocal of what you are saying.

I posted every response I got up to that day not editing any of them good or bad so we could get an idea of what to expect instead using highlight videos. If you have a problem with what Toronto Raptors fans are saying then take it to them. When you have to limit someone to easy stuff it still means they're a bad offensive player. I also called him elite in other categories and that it'll be up to the coaches to decide the rotations but I'm sure you just "missed that part again."

[PennytoShaq]

I just think you need to get over yourself. It's tough to read sometimes.

[Blue_and_Whte]

No one said he had a reliable jumper. I said he had a good motion that looks like it can be developed into a reliable jumper.

I also am pretty confident you don't know as much about this player as you think you do.

Except the things that fans who have watched him play say 100% align with everything I've been saying. Don't presume to tell me what I know or don't know. I forgot more about basketball in the last hour than you'll ever know in your lifetime.

Based on your post history since I have been here, that's clearly not true. It's funny how aggressively you constantly need to validate yourself on here.

Also, one of the first quotes you linked to of those fans stated that Bizmack could be a starting Center in this league. So, there's that.

I don't have to validate myself to ANYONE least of all someone like you. And based on your post history you cant comprehend much so I'll take your opinion with a grain of salt.

Of course one of the posts said that Bismack could be a starting center, because unlike you, my goal wasn't to omit any information about Biyombo good or bad, simply to get a perspective from people that have more to go on than highlight videos.

You on the other hand quoted Vogel as if he said Biyombo is a starting center in this league when he actually said we have two starting centers, but you attempted to deflect any positivity away from Nik and pretend Vogel singled out Biyombo as the starter in order to push your agenda. Meanwhile I provided everyone with viable opinions from a fan based that watched him play consistently so why don't you stop being hurt and contribute something.

[PennytoShaq]

Except the things that fans who have watched him play say 100% align with everything I've been saying. Don't presume to tell me what I know or don't know. I forgot more about basketball in the last hour than you'll ever know in your lifetime.

Based on your post history since I have been here, that's clearly not true. It's funny how aggressively you constantly need to validate yourself on here.

Also, one of the first quotes you linked to of those fans stated that Bizmack could be a starting Center in this league. So, there's that.

I don't have to validate myself to ANYONE least of all someone like you. And based on your post history you cant comprehend much so I'll take your opinion with a grain of salt.

Of course one of the posts said that Bismack could be a starting center, because unlike you, my goal wasn't to omit any information about Biyombo good or bad, simply to get a perspective from people that have more to go on than highlight videos.

You on the other hand quoted Vogel as if he said Biyombo is a starting center in this league when he actually said we have two starting centers, but you attempted to deflect any positivity away from Nik and pretend Vogel singled out Biyombo as the starter in order to push your agenda. Meanwhile I provided everyone with viable opinions from a fan based that watched him play consistently so why don't you stop being hurt and contribute something.

If you checked my post history and came away with that conclusion, than I'm not so sure you are in any position to judge comprehension.

[SOUL]

Cool off a bit guys, please.. or I'll have to give out warnings, and I hate doing that. Just put each other on ignore for a little or just don't respond to each other's posts. It's safe to say this thread backfired.

[ORL_on_FIRE]

Lol, why don't you guys just wait until the season starts?

Absolutely ridiculous.

[Scottg247]

I lIke Tutles.

[wise1-2]

If Payton doesn't work out hopefully biyombo will also help us recruit Lowry next year.

[UCFJayBird]

I lIke Tutles.

you like turtles? No way, dude. I like turtles!

[CoachD]

I have to side with Vogel and Hennigan's take over yours, plus what I have seen.

The Ben Wallace comment pretty much took it out of reality for me. Ben Wallace never showcased great form on the elbow jumper or smooth turanround jumpers.

Also, there is a link with him making shots from 10 feet. So when you say he can not do it at all, there is easily accessed video evidence that disproves this.

Lol the video evidence only shows the few shots he has made , if he had a "smooth" jumper , than why hasn't he been able to be a starter in this league ? He only started because of injury , nothing he has done has shown, he should be a full time starter . Now if he greatly improves than that can change but so far , Bismack is a great defender but his offense is holding him back , hence his career average of 5 points a game , and most of those points are dunks !

Addressed all that in my last post.

Biz doesn't HAVE an elbow jumper dude. Only time he ever took one was if a possession completely broke down, or he was caught with the ball at the end of the clock.

Go on out Synergy and do a query for his jumpshots from 15 feet.... You'll see more airballs and long clanks than you will balls that rattled in.

Teams (INCLUDING Vogel's Pacers) left Biz COMPLETELY unguarded when he was outside the paint ... i.e. space where he could catch and dunk without a dribble. His dribble is atrocious, and in transition or screen / roll, guards had to get him the ball above the rim, or where he only needed one quick gather dribble. Anything more, and it usually went off his foot and out of bounds.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Lol the video evidence only shows the few shots he has made , if he had a "smooth" jumper , than why hasn't he been able to be a starter in this league ? He only started because of injury , nothing he has done has shown, he should be a full time starter . Now if he greatly improves than that can change but so far , Bismack is a great defender but his offense is holding him back , hence his career average of 5 points a game , and most of those points are dunks !

Addressed all that in my last post.

Biz doesn't HAVE an elbow jumper dude. Only time he ever took one was if a possession completely broke down, or he was caught with the ball at the end of the clock.

Go on out Synergy and do a query for his jumpshots from 15 feet.... You'll see more airballs and long clanks than you will balls that rattled in.

Teams (INCLUDING Vogel's Pacers) left Biz COMPLETELY unguarded when he was outside the paint ... i.e. space where he could catch and dunk without a dribble. His dribble is atrocious, and in transition or screen / roll, guards had to get him the ball above the rim, or where he only needed one quick gather dribble. Anything more, and it usually went off his foot and out of bounds.

Lol. People still trying to work this "biz ain't that bad at the offense" garbage. Its obvious some didn't watch him play at all last season.


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-nba-players-no-one-passed-to-this-season/

Bismack did not get the basketball, and for good reason. He could not catch or dribble or shoot or pass or even really just stand in one place on the court without flummoxing a teammate, or sometimesbowling him clean over.

Oh BB.... Smh.

[PennytoShaq]

I don't understand how a mod can ask you nicely to stop with the attacks, yet you are so insecure about this topic that you quote my message and keep it going anyway. Are you really this emotionally invested into being right about a player that we have not even seen in the Magic's scheme yet?

Yes, I watched him play. And yes the highlights show he has the form to develop a reliable elbow jumper over time. I already explained how he did not even play C before TOR developed him there.

[Dennis Reynolds]

I don't understand how a mod can ask you nicely to stop with the attacks, yet you are so insecure about this topic that you quote my message and keep it going anyway. Are you really this emotionally invested into being right about a player that we have not even seen in the Magic's scheme yet?

Yes, I watched him play. And yes the highlights show he has the form to develop a reliable elbow jumper over time. I already explained how he did not even play C before TOR developed him there.

Just give up dude. There's no point in talking to him.

He was making fun of all the people who said Skiles wasn't Hennigan's hire. Once that was proven true,he still didn't admit he was wrong.

He was also the biggest Skiles defender. That tells you all you need to know about him.

Now he's bragging about his basketball knowledge and the basically the only thing he cares about are points. So many guys posted stats that prove we are actually worse with Fournier on the floor but since he scores 15 ppg,B&W thinks Fournier's perfect.

Vuc scores even more so he sees him as one of the best centers in the league. I have to say Vuc's scoring is underrated by some because I honestly can't remember him scoring an easy basket.
Skiles the idiot refused to run pick and roll and we were just dumping the ball to Vuc so he had to do everything by himself. He should get to the line more but he's a better scorer than the numbers would suggest. With his defense though,he's certainly not an elite center but he can score so again he can do no wrong in B&W's eyes.

There's really no point in arguing with a guy who can't even spell his user name correctly. Not to mention he always says he's a Magic fan only and he still didn't remove Dipo from his avatar even though he likes to call other posters player fans. What a swell guy overall.

[SOUL]

Going to close this thread for now.

[Hilltop]

Probably the only guy in Toronto who could set a good pick last year. He doesn't offer much in the way of offense but he's long and very athletic so I think EP will give him plenty of lobs. Lowry missed out on a lot of those.

Still tho $70 million?

That's a lot of money for a backup center. It tells me Hennigan eventually sees him starting. Vucevic is on a very movable contract and if Biz looks good this year, I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone by next summer.

In the meantime, he should continue starting unless we want this team to average 80 PPG.