2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick)

[Ericb5]

Jackson and a healthy Giles are tier 1. Each are better prospects than Simmons. Fultz is close as well. Tatum and smith are Ingram level prospects. The '16 high school class is fantastic. Combine it with the '15 class and 7-8 of the top 10 are from the '16 class.

I haven't seen franchise player talent in Giles or Jackson yet, but it is early.

I especially love Jackson. Take Wiggins, and add a better conpetetiveness/motor, and a better handle.


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[TragicBronson]

Jackson and a healthy Giles are tier 1. Each are better prospects than Simmons. Fultz is close as well. Tatum and smith are Ingram level prospects. The '16 high school class is fantastic. Combine it with the '15 class and 7-8 of the top 10 are from the '16 class.

I haven't seen franchise player talent in Giles or Jackson yet, but it is early.

I especially love Jackson. Take Wiggins, and add a better conpetetiveness/motor, and a better handle.


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Jackson could be exactly what the sixers need in a running mate for Simmons. A wing scorer that's great in transition with the tools to be an elite defender. Just as long as he can play off the ball.

[Ericb5]

Jackson and a healthy Giles are tier 1. Each are better prospects than Simmons. Fultz is close as well. Tatum and smith are Ingram level prospects. The '16 high school class is fantastic. Combine it with the '15 class and 7-8 of the top 10 are from the '16 class.

I haven't seen franchise player talent in Giles or Jackson yet, but it is early.

I especially love Jackson. Take Wiggins, and add a better conpetetiveness/motor, and a better handle.


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Jackson could be exactly what the sixers need in a running mate for Simmons. A wing scorer that's great in transition with the tools to be an elite defender. Just as long as he can play off the ball.

Totally agree. He would be a killer. Ideally he would shoot better, but as we always say, that can be improved.

We need some wing athletes to run with Simmons, and man he would be a terror on the break.


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[Dell]

I'm just worried about Jackson's ability to shoot from distance. I certainly wouldn't be unhappy if we added him next summer. He's got everything else you can ask for, but the NBA is all about shooting right now and adding Jackson doesn't help with that as of now.

Fultz on the other hand...

[Unbreakable99]

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[Dell]

Yep, get excited about Smith. I've said Fultz and Smith are the dream the whole time.

[Ericb5]

Yep, get excited about Smith. I've said Fultz and Smith are the dream the whole time.

Smith is electric. I really hope he has a great year at NC state.

In the fantasy scenario, where we end up with 1(Jackson) and 4, I hope for a Dennis Smith with a great freshman year. If he craps the bed then so be it, but if he turns that electricity into dominance that quickly, I would prefer him to Tatum, And Fultz.


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[KramerDSP]

Dare I say he reminds me of Iverson in terms of his competitive fire?

[76erFixer]

Yes Philly Would Love Smith!

Keep building through the draft

Go into next years draft with likely 1 top 3 pick and 1 top 7 pick.
For example, take 1 swing man and 1 guard (Josh Jackson and Dennis Smith/Monk)
Spend $ on athletic defenders and 3 point shooters

Dennis Smith/Bayless
Josh Jackson/Henderson
Ben Simmons/Covington
Jahlil Okafor/Saric
Embiid/Noel


http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/2017-nba-draft-player-comparisons

[Wilfried]

Yes Philly Would Love Smith!

Keep building through the draft

Go into next years draft with likely 1 top 3 pick and 1 top 7 pick.
For example, take 1 swing man and 1 guard (Josh Jackson and Dennis Smith/Monk)
Spend $ on athletic defenders and 3 point shooters

Dennis Smith/Bayless
Josh Jackson/Henderson
Ben Simmons/Covington
Jahlil Okafor/Saric
Embiid/Noel


http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/2017-nba-draft-player-comparisons

I'm afraid there's still a big chance LA can keep it's pick in 2017 draft.

Think Brooklyn, Philadelphia and maybe Denver will be worse, but LA is still bottom 4 imo (even though I like their upside).

[Unbreakable99]

Yes Philly Would Love Smith!

Keep building through the draft

Go into next years draft with likely 1 top 3 pick and 1 top 7 pick.
For example, take 1 swing man and 1 guard (Josh Jackson and Dennis Smith/Monk)
Spend $ on athletic defenders and 3 point shooters

Dennis Smith/Bayless
Josh Jackson/Henderson
Ben Simmons/Covington
Jahlil Okafor/Saric
Embiid/Noel


http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/2017-nba-draft-player-comparisons

I'm afraid there's still a big chance LA can keep it's pick in 2017 draft.

Think Brooklyn, Philadelphia and maybe Denver will be worse, but LA is still bottom 4 imo (even though I like their upside).

You think there's a big chance LA keeps their pick? It's almost a lock. LA will have the worst or 2nd worst record in the league. It's going to be a battle between them and Brooklyn. LA is going to stink so bad. I definitely think they have a greater than 60% chance of picking top 3.

[Wilfried]

Yes Philly Would Love Smith!

Keep building through the draft

Go into next years draft with likely 1 top 3 pick and 1 top 7 pick.
For example, take 1 swing man and 1 guard (Josh Jackson and Dennis Smith/Monk)
Spend $ on athletic defenders and 3 point shooters

Dennis Smith/Bayless
Josh Jackson/Henderson
Ben Simmons/Covington
Jahlil Okafor/Saric
Embiid/Noel


http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/2017-nba-draft-player-comparisons

I'm afraid there's still a big chance LA can keep it's pick in 2017 draft.

Think Brooklyn, Philadelphia and maybe Denver will be worse, but LA is still bottom 4 imo (even though I like their upside).

You think there's a big chance LA keeps their pick? It's almost a lock. LA will have the worst or 2nd worst record in the league. It's going to be a battle between them and Brooklyn. LA is going to stink so bad. I definitely think they have a greater than 60% chance of picking top 3.

They are better than us.
And maybe Sacramento (if Cousins implodes) and Denver are worse than them too. I see them ending bottom 3-5.
New Orleans (Davis) and Phoenix (Bledsoe) are also 1 injury away from being very bad.

The Lakers are improved with Deng, Mozgov and Ingram, without a doubt. If Russell can improve too, they can finish around 32 - 35 wins.

[HartfordWhalers]

ESPN summer forecast put the Lakers at 3rd worst.

[mksp]

Lakers are going to be awful, unfortunately.

I'm not sure Ingram adds a single win, so we're banking on Russell maturing, and Deng / Mozgov. Ugh.

[kriss73]

Our best chance is that they slip after the lottery.

[Wilfried]

Them being 3rd worst still gives us more than 50% (54) they fall out the top 3 tbh.

[sixerswillrule]

Lakers are going to be awful, unfortunately.

I'm not sure Ingram adds a single win, so we're banking on Russell maturing, and Deng / Mozgov. Ugh.

Kobe had negative 0.4 win shares last season so Ingram just has to beat that.

[TragicBronson]

I think people are forgetting the most important factor for the Lakers this season. They fired Byron Scott, the guy is beyond awful. Add Ingram plus some solid vets and that should be enough to top the nets, Sixers and suns/kings. I don't think they would have sold Walton on coming over to tank another season. Otherwise they would have kept Byron Scott who is masterful at it.

[AdotSmoove]

I think people are forgetting the most important factor for the Lakers this season. They fired Byron Scott, the guy is beyond awful. Add Ingram plus some solid vets and that should be enough to top the nets, Sixers and suns/kings. I don't think they would have sold Walton on coming over to tank another season. Otherwise they would have kept Byron Scott who is masterful at it.

LA may not be intentionally tanking, but their roster is still garbage. Everyone keeps expecting LA to just pull a rabbit (Westbrook and griffin) out of the hat (free agency). The thing is tho that LA has been trying to grab a big name FA since Pau left and no one wants a part of it. KD sat with the Clippers and wouldn't even consider the Lakers, that goes to show that LA's historical pedigree is no longer a huge selling point. Players want to win and get paid. Even with Russ and Blake LA tops out at western semi finals. Add that to the fact that every team would pay Russ and Blake the max and the reasons for choosing LA are entirely diminished.

Also, the whole Russ to LA because he grew up there is overhyped. Its a convenient storyline but the fact a player grew up somewhere is not determinative of where he chooses to play pro ball.

AND the argument about Russ craving LA's social scene because of his entrepreneurial pursuits is downright malarkey. Russ loves fashion. Not LA style, New York fashion.

[Ericb5]

The free agent splash didn't happen in LA, but I still think that they will be better than last year.

If they just went from 20 to 25 wins it could be enough to bump them out of the bottom 3. This is the draft that we wanted the pick from though. It will probably go down to lottery night again.