Best Athlete: Kevin Durant vs. Anthony Davis vs. Giannis Antetokounmpo

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Best Athlete

Kevin Durant
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Anthony Davis
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Giannis Antetokounmpo
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Best Athlete: Kevin Durant vs. Anthony Davis vs. Giannis Antetokounmpo 

Post#1 » by Whirrun » Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:03 pm

Of the 6'10 and 6'11 guys able to play from the perimeter, which of these is the best athlete in terms of quickness, acceleration, explosiveness, hand eye coordination, strength, and fluidity?
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Post#2 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:39 pm

Davis has a very, very, very clear advantage in explosiveness, strength, acceleration, and quickness, but obviously is lacking in the other areas, at least compared to these two,

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Post#3 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:08 pm

Compared to his position - Davis

Overall - Durant

Durant playing SF masks to an extent how absurd his mobility is for being PF sized
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Post#4 » by NO-KG-AI » Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:49 pm

Davis definitely uses his athleticism the most to impact the game.


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Post#5 » by ppedro123 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:35 pm

Durant is one of the most underrated athletes of all time
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Post#6 » by Quotatious » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:41 pm

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AD is clearly the best, in my opinion. Absolute freak athletically. Length, explosiveness, great quickness for his size.

Durant is a great athlete, but I think a large part of his success is based on his insane skill level as a scorer. His jump-shot (and ability to make contested shots) is fantastic, he's a super skilled ball-handler for his size, too.
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Post#7 » by Whirrun » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:43 pm

MyUniBroDavis wrote:Davis has a very, very, very clear advantage in explosiveness, strength, acceleration, and quickness, but obviously is lacking in the other areas, at least compared to these two,

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If his advantage is as definitive as you claim, why is it Giannis and Durant who are the prolific wings? Their mobility comes from somewhere.

Could/can Davis play the wing as they do?
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Post#8 » by Whirrun » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:50 pm

My question to those claiming this is Davis by a distance is this: if that were the case, why is it Giannis & Durant that are the prolific wing players? Can Davis initiate the offense and play from the perimeter as they do?
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Post#9 » by BasketballFan7 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:54 pm

Whirrun wrote:My question to those claiming this is Davis by a distance is this: if that were the case, why is it Giannis & Durant that are the prolific wing players? Can Davis initiate the offense and play from the perimeter as they do?

hand eye coordination is listed in the OP, but ball handling / skill set isn't.

Davis is number one, and IMO yes it is clear.
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Post#10 » by Whirrun » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:57 pm

BasketballFan7 wrote:
Whirrun wrote:My question to those claiming this is Davis by a distance is this: if that were the case, why is it Giannis & Durant that are the prolific wing players? Can Davis initiate the offense and play from the perimeter as they do?

hand eye coordination is listed in the OP, but ball handling / skill set isn't.

Davis is number one, and IMO yes it is clear.


What does hand eye coordination have to do with 6'10-6'11 guys beating much smaller guys off the bounce? I'd argue Deandre Jordan has some of the best hand eye coordination in the league, but that doesn't enable him to slash from the perimeter.
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Re: Best Athlete: Kevin Durant vs. Anthony Davis vs. Giannis Antetokounmpo 

Post#11 » by BasketballFan7 » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:00 pm

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Whirrun wrote:My question to those claiming this is Davis by a distance is this: if that were the case, why is it Giannis & Durant that are the prolific wing players? Can Davis initiate the offense and play from the perimeter as they do?

hand eye coordination is listed in the OP, but ball handling / skill set isn't.

Davis is number one, and IMO yes it is clear.


What does hand eye coordination have to do with 6'10-6'11 guys beating much smaller guys off the bounce? I'd argue Deandre Jordan has some of the best hand eye coordination in the league, but that doesn't enable him to slash from the perimeter.

Did you read my post?

Hand-eye is the closest thing in the OP that could be correlated with dribbling ability, playmaking, shot creation off the dribble. But it isn't those things, as you just said yourself.

Skillset, not athleticism, is what allows KD/GA to do more as far as initiating offense.
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Post#12 » by Whirrun » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:03 pm

Essentially, I don't know how anyone could look at these and argue Davis has a clear advantage in athleticism:

Giannis:



Durant:

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Post#13 » by Whirrun » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:07 pm

BasketballFan7 wrote:Did you read my post?


Yes, hence my question.

Hand-eye is the closest thing in the OP that could be correlated with dribbling ability, playmaking, shot creation off the dribble.


I guess I'm confused as to how hand eye coordination alone explains how a player is able to slash from the perimeter. I'd think acceleration, speed, and quickness would also play a role, no?

But it isn't those things, as you just said yourself.


I didn't say that, so I'm not sure what you're talking about here.

Skillset, not athleticism, is what allows KD/GA to do more as far as initiating offense.


Athleticism contributes to a players skill set.
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Post#14 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:40 am

Whirrun wrote:Essentially, I don't know how anyone could look at these and argue Davis has a clear advantage in athleticism:

Giannis:



Durant:



Because highlight reels don't tell us anything. Davis is blocking shots, finishing at the rim, rebounding the ball at a way higher level and all that partly because he's just a longer and more prolific athlete.

Davis doesn't create from the wing because it's a waste of his skillset, and he doesn't have the ball handling to be a point guard, so why waste time?

Davis is the best at playing above the rim by a wide margin. The other two are similar height and stuff, but Davis is a different physical package because of his length and stuff.


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Post#15 » by homecourtloss » Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:40 am

Durant measured out terribly at the draft combine as far as speed, explosiveness, and agility are concerned. He probably improved since then, but most do in their first few years with NBA trainers at their disposal.


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Post#16 » by Prez » Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:00 am

I don't understand how Davis is a clear #1, at all. I would honestly rather have either Durant and Giannis' physical profiles over Davis, people are drastically underestimating the absurdity that is an explosive 6'11" dude moving like a guard. Davis has crazy bounce, timing, quickness and fluidity for a big man, but Durant and Giannis literally move like guards. And it's not just their ballhandling. Between their hip flexibility, body control and agility they are actually perimeter players who happen to be 6'11", not 6'11" big guys who have perimeter-like movements.
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Post#17 » by StepBackCrack » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:12 am

Milbuck wrote:I don't understand how Davis is a clear #1, at all. I would honestly rather have either Durant and Giannis' physical profiles over Davis, people are drastically underestimating the absurdity that is an explosive 6'11" dude moving like a guard. Davis has crazy bounce, timing, quickness and fluidity for a big man, but Durant and Giannis literally move like guards. And it's not just their ballhandling. Between their hip flexibility, body control and agility they are actually perimeter players who happen to be 6'11", not 6'11" big guys who have perimeter-like movements.


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Post#18 » by SlowPaced » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:54 am

Highlight reels don't tell the story. Flashiness that being able to handle the ball and create brings seems to be fooling some people here. KD and Giannis are elite athletes, but they're not the absolute god of athleticism AD is. They both have incredible showcases of athleticism from time to time (some of them have been posted in the thread) but from a game-to-game basis on average, AD is clearly the better athlete.

- AD is by far the best leaper here. Some people here have been priotizing KD and Giannis' ability to play on the perimeter like a guard, but are missing out on the fact that AD is the only one that can play as a center despite the size between the three being very close. You're in for a long game if KD or Giannis is your center.
- AD has the quickest step here. The only thing that keeps him away from being able to play on the perimeter is his lack of ball handling. He too moves like a guard, he's near impossible to stop 1v1 when he accelerates. He doesn't seem as ferocious as KD and Giannis when he dunks, but he's more explosive than them.
- Wouldn't surprise me if AD is the fastest of the bunch on a run. From times I've seen these three get a steal and explode to an open rim, AD runs the fastest.
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Post#19 » by Dupp » Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:04 am

Yeah i dont really see any good argument over Durant. His speed, agility,explosiveness at that size is insane. He's 7 foot, hes a freak.
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Post#20 » by bigboi » Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:21 pm

MyUniBroDavis wrote:Davis has a very, very, very clear advantage in explosiveness, strength, acceleration, and quickness, but obviously is lacking in the other areas, at least compared to these two,

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Durant is by far the quickest, what are you saying? Davis is overrated as hell. Durant and Gianni's are more athletic than him, their coordination, speed, and explosiveness trumps Davis easily
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