Best Athlete: Kevin Durant vs. Anthony Davis vs. Giannis Antetokounmpo

[Whirrun]

Meant to post this here earlier. KAT was measured at 6'10.25 in socks at these times, an inch taller than Anthony was at the combine, but they look the same in the second picture, while I can see the difference in Davis' rookie year.





What a freak KAT was. Full center size at 16, just looks like he trimmed his baby fat.

Again, could be angles, and an inch is really reaching and splittingnhairs, but you would definitely think just looking at the changes, that Davis was the younger guy.


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The most recent photo of them taken at together, which would reflect KAT's draft measurements, show Davis & Cousins being the same height while Kat is half an inch to an inch taller than they.

Given they were all standing shoulder to shoulder, I think it's safe to conclude that Davis is still the 6'10.5 he measured as at the draft combine.

[Nightfall]

An interesting read in case it hasn't been mentioned yet :d :
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/14927328/milwaukee-bucks-f-giannis-antetokounmpo-nba-most-exceptional-body

[Magic Giannison]

An interesting read in case it hasn't been mentioned yet :d :
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/14927328/milwaukee-bucks-f-giannis-antetokounmpo-nba-most-exceptional-body

I did but it was majorly ignored or downplayed.

[pelifan]

An interesting read in case it hasn't been mentioned yet :d :
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/14927328/milwaukee-bucks-f-giannis-antetokounmpo-nba-most-exceptional-body

I did but it was majorly ignored or downplayed.

because it's literally a fluff piece.

[Magic Giannison]

An interesting read in case it hasn't been mentioned yet :d :
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/14927328/milwaukee-bucks-f-giannis-antetokounmpo-nba-most-exceptional-body

I did but it was majorly ignored or downplayed.

because it's literally a fluff piece.

Yeah a piece that includes analysis by experts on different categories is a fluff but a dispute by a fan is the hard cold truth.

[pelifan]

I did but it was majorly ignored or downplayed.

because it's literally a fluff piece.

Yeah a piece that includes analysis by experts on different categories is a fluff but a dispute by a fan is the hard cold truth.

well it does zero comparisons. Unlike the counter arguments, I've done nothing to discredit Giannis as an athlete. Just stated that Davis is a better leaper with a stronger body and moves in the exact same way, as well as being a better player through every year of his development. Stating that his success was due primarily to athleticism alone.

[Magic Giannison]

because it's literally a fluff piece.

Yeah a piece that includes analysis by experts on different categories is a fluff but a dispute by a fan is the hard cold truth.

well it does zero comparisons. Unlike the counter arguments, I've done nothing to discredit Giannis as an athlete. Just stated that Davis is a better leaper with a stronger body and moves in the exact same way, as well as being a better player through every year of his development. Stating that his success was due to athleticism alone.

Comparison is not needed when the whole article focus is to analyze what they call as " exceptional body ". There are some mini comparisons to players in general in each category showcasing why Giannis specific part is different compared to general players.
heres an example.

A typical athlete needs time to regather and unwind before his body can generate the energy to get off the ground again. "Giannis doesn't have that," Elliott says. "His system can handle those giant forces.

[Prez]

because it's literally a fluff piece.

Yeah a piece that includes analysis by experts on different categories is a fluff but a dispute by a fan is the hard cold truth.

well it does zero comparisons. Unlike the counter arguments, I've done nothing to discredit Giannis as an athlete. Just stated that Davis is a better leaper with a stronger body and moves in the exact same way, as well as being a better player through every year of his development. Stating that his success was due primarily to athleticism alone.

This isn't true no matter how many times you say it.

[pelifan]

I'm still waiting for someone to explain this:

age: 16-17
6'3" Anthony Davis
?????? Giannis

age 17-18
high school phenom Davis
tantalizing prospect Giannis playing pro greek ball.

age 18-19
college player of the year Davis and #1 pick
NBA rook Giannis who shows flashes of star potential

age 19-20
Rookie Davis 13.5 and 8.2
Sophomore Giannis 12.7 and 6.7 in 10% more mpg

age 20-21
Sophomore Anthony Davis 21 and 10 and 3
3rd year Giannis 17, 7 and 4

So AD has been better every year up to this point with even less time to adjust against top level competition

what advantage does AD have on Giannis such that he's been better at every stage of his development if not for athleticism? He's certainly not more skilled.

[Whirrun]

I'm still waiting for someone to explain this:

age: 16-17
6'3" Anthony Davis
?????? Giannis

age 17-18
high school phenom Davis
tantalizing prospect Giannis playing pro greek ball.

age 18-19
college player of the year Davis and #1 pick
NBA rook Giannis who shows flashes of star potential

age 19-20
Rookie Davis 13.5 and 8.2
Sophomore Giannis 12.7 and 6.7 in 10% more mpg

age 20-21
Sophomore Anthony Davis 21 and 10 and 3
3rd year Giannis 17, 7 and 4

So AD has been better every year up to this point with even less time to adjust against top level competition

what advantage does AD have on Giannis such that he's been better at every stage of his development if not for athleticism? He's certainly not more skilled.

Davis is more skilled. Not even sure how that's arguable. Giannis has like two dribbles moves, euro & a spin, and that's it.

[3Diamantidis]

Westbrook, Rudy Gay.


Between those 3...giannis. That's one of the main reasons he can eventually play all 5 positions. The other 2 can't.
It's crazy to think what he'll become if he chooses to add weight. Some say he will lose his explosiveness, others say he will be completely unmarkable. Close future will tell. The thing with giannis is that although he is already playing 3 years, nobody can predict his ceiling. He is still an enigma. Enigma for all the positive reasons though.

AD needs to stay healthy for start. He cannot be in this discussion when he gets injured every now and then. Best athletes don't get injured often. If he didn't have all these injuries....well. Maybe(i say maybe) we would be talking now about the best PF the game has ever seen in terms of skills, athleticism, spirit etc. But he must stay healthy.

KD is the closest to giannis. He had only one major injury but that happened once all these years. He is great athlete.

[Whirrun]

Funny enough, Sports Science just analyzed KD's crossover in a controlled environment and came away with it being .03 slower than Iverson's crossover against Jordan. Wasn't his best work, but interesting none the less:

Watch on YouTube

Talk about coincidences.

[MyUniBroDavis]

Funny enough, Sports Science just analyzed KD's crossover in a controlled environment and came away with it being .03 slower than Iverson's crossover against Jordan. Wasn't his best work, but interesting none the less:

Watch on YouTube

Talk about coincidences.

This is pretty old, I think they recreated dr J's layup and Jordan's "the shot" as well

Lol the comments though it got a lot of backlash

[bigboi]

Wait literally, he goes from the general consensus for best athlete in the nba to "Giannis and Kd and deandre and griffin are all more athletic"

Really what?

What type of delusion? Davis has never ever been even close to being considered as the consensus best athlete in the NBA. He isn't even considered the best big man athlete

[MyUniBroDavis]

General consensus was wrong, but most people, at least according to the survey, seemed to believe he was in the discussion

viewtopic.php?t=1410245

From I think around 15-17 or so votes, its clear most people thought Westbrook was the most athletic. Davis got the second most votes

[bigboi]

General consensus was wrong, but most people, at least according to the survey, seemed to believe he was in the discussion

viewtopic.php?t=1410245

From I think around 15-17 or so votes, its clear most people thought Westbrook was the most athletic. Davis got the second most votes

A 3 page thread is general consensus now, lmao. And it's by posters that thought Davis would be MVP. "If Pelicans win 50 games, Davis in a landslide" . Davis is in no way shape or form the most athletic player in the league.

[NO-KG-AI]

General consensus was wrong, but most people, at least according to the survey, seemed to believe he was in the discussion

viewtopic.php?t=1410245

From I think around 15-17 or so votes, its clear most people thought Westbrook was the most athletic. Davis got the second most votes

A 3 page thread is general consensus now, lmao. And it's by posters that thought Davis would be MVP. "If Pelicans win 50 games, Davis in a landslide" . Davis is in no way shape or form the most athletic player in the league.

Well DAvis did get 10% of the votes for most athletic in the actual GM survey. Russell Westbrook, Zach Lavine, and LeBron were the only one with more.

Giannis got a vote, and Durant got 0

He was also 2nd place for best defensive player in the NBA. 86% of GMs chose him as the player they'd start a franchise with today. KD and LeBron were the only other two to get a vote. But hey, what do GMs know? They're probably just Pelicans homers.

It's like the GM's think he's *gasp* a superstar, and one of the most athletic players in the league. I can't believe people actually think these things! And in this thread, a Bucks fan taught me that he might not even be the third best athlete on the Bucks.

[MyUniBroDavis]

General consensus was wrong, but most people, at least according to the survey, seemed to believe he was in the discussion

viewtopic.php?t=1410245

From I think around 15-17 or so votes, its clear most people thought Westbrook was the most athletic. Davis got the second most votes

A 3 page thread is general consensus now, lmao. And it's by posters that thought Davis would be MVP. "If Pelicans win 50 games, Davis in a landslide" . Davis is in no way shape or form the most athletic player in the league.

Well DAvis did get 10% of the votes for most athletic in the actual GM survey. Russell Westbrook, Zach Lavine, and LeBron were the only one with more.

Giannis got a vote, and Durant got 0

He was also 2nd place for best defensive player in the NBA. 86% of GMs chose him as the player they'd start a franchise with today. KD and LeBron were the only other two to get a vote. But hey, what do GMs know? They're probably just Pelicans homers.

It's like the GM's think he's *gasp* a superstar, and one of the most athletic players in the league. I can't believe people actually think these things! And in this thread, a Bucks fan taught me that he might not even be the third best athlete on the Bucks.

"Posters"

Most of those "posters" have contributed more to this board in the past month than most people have in 5 years

[Whirrun]

General consensus was wrong, but most people, at least according to the survey, seemed to believe he was in the discussion

viewtopic.php?t=1410245

From I think around 15-17 or so votes, its clear most people thought Westbrook was the most athletic. Davis got the second most votes

A 3 page thread is general consensus now, lmao. And it's by posters that thought Davis would be MVP. "If Pelicans win 50 games, Davis in a landslide" . Davis is in no way shape or form the most athletic player in the league.

Well DAvis did get 10% of the votes for most athletic in the actual GM survey. Russell Westbrook, Zach Lavine, and LeBron were the only one with more.

Giannis got a vote, and Durant got 0

He was also 2nd place for best defensive player in the NBA. 86% of GMs chose him as the player they'd start a franchise with today. KD and LeBron were the only other two to get a vote. But hey, what do GMs know? They're probably just Pelicans homers.

It's like the GM's think he's *gasp* a superstar, and one of the most athletic players in the league. I can't believe people actually think these things! And in this thread, a Bucks fan taught me that he might not even be the third best athlete on the Bucks.

You employ a whole lot of straw-man's and are sure to dodge post that challenge your pre-conceived notions:

Case in point:

Edit: Btw, Pelicans fans + KG, Davis is still 6'10:

[MyUniBroDavis]

Look at the feet, Davis is clearly standing furthest to the back