Political Roundtable Part X

[Kanyewest]

More proof that Hillary is a reptilian NWO robot, watch as she has a power failure and her BIOS reboots

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Wow, I'm guessing she just made a bad joke but I'm not sure if she is trying to cover up some weird twitch or if she is actually sick.

[montestewart]

More proof that Hillary is a reptilian NWO robot, watch as she has a power failure and her BIOS reboots

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Wow, I'm guessing that's a byproduct of non-stop schedule exhaustion. If I was on Trump's team (he never returned my calls) I'd play that and only that from now through election day, with the slo mo and a speeded up version to give it that Jacob's Ladder creepiness. Maybe use a Howard Dean "Wooooooo!" voiceover at the end. Although, come to think of it, it might backfire and remind the voters how crazy Trump is. Never mind.

[AFM]

Trump is crazy, but he's human.

Hilarytron 3000 needs a firmware update.

[nate33]

Nate, the academic achievement gap between white and black kids starts literally at kindergarten. Being poor is one part of it, but living in a single parent household and growing up in a poor neighborhood where you're taught not to trust the system are huge factors as well. It's really not as simple as "sort by income" or "sort by dollars spent on education".

If you don't think it's the aforementioned socioeconomic factors causing black kids to struggle in school, what is your theory?

I'm not going to explain my theory because I'm not in the mood to have to deal with attacks from 10 of you at once. I'll let someone else make the case for me.

Read this from William Saletan at Slate.com:
Liberal Creationism

If you find yourself in disbelief, go ahead and click on the numerous hyperlinks to further educate yourself on the issue.

[AFM]

Does he have an IQ of 106?

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[Induveca]

Nate, the academic achievement gap between white and black kids starts literally at kindergarten. Being poor is one part of it, but living in a single parent household and growing up in a poor neighborhood where you're taught not to trust the system are huge factors as well. It's really not as simple as "sort by income" or "sort by dollars spent on education".

If you don't think it's the aforementioned socioeconomic factors causing black kids to struggle in school, what is your theory?

I'm not going to explain my theory because I'm not in the mood to have to deal with attacks from 10 of you at once. I'll let someone else make the case for me.

Read this from William Saletan at Slate.com:
Liberal Creationism

If you find yourself in disbelief, go ahead and click on the numerous hyperlinks to further educate yourself on the issue.

Voice your opinion, trust me everyone realizes racism is a two way street......even if they don't admit it.

[payitforward]

And what I wonder is -- what has happened that is so awful? In what sense is the US no longer "great?" What, in short, are Trump supporters complaining so much about?

I would say it would be this:

The significance of the chart would be enhanced if there were another chart indicating changes in the relative % of our population in each of those educational categories.

A look at the first chart I could find (on Wikipedia) tells me that in 1979 @ 17% of Americans 25 or older had a college degree or more, and that in 2009 it was 27%.

All the same, yes, the economy has changed a lot since 1979. Nor is there some new economic "policy" (e.g. trade barriers) that will change it back -- not without doing enormous harm to the overall economy.

But, is this what people mean when they say America is no longer great? Usually, the rhetoric seems to imply a different kind of loss.

[montestewart]

Nate, the academic achievement gap between white and black kids starts literally at kindergarten. Being poor is one part of it, but living in a single parent household and growing up in a poor neighborhood where you're taught not to trust the system are huge factors as well. It's really not as simple as "sort by income" or "sort by dollars spent on education".

If you don't think it's the aforementioned socioeconomic factors causing black kids to struggle in school, what is your theory?

I'm not going to explain my theory because I'm not in the mood to have to deal with attacks from 10 of you at once. I'll let someone else make the case for me.

Read this from William Saletan at Slate.com:
Liberal Creationism

If you find yourself in disbelief, go ahead and click on the numerous hyperlinks to further educate yourself on the issue.

And when you're finished reading all that, watch this:

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They just don't make 'em like they used to.

[payitforward]

Nate, the academic achievement gap between white and black kids starts literally at kindergarten. Being poor is one part of it, but living in a single parent household and growing up in a poor neighborhood where you're taught not to trust the system are huge factors as well. It's really not as simple as "sort by income" or "sort by dollars spent on education".

If you don't think it's the aforementioned socioeconomic factors causing black kids to struggle in school, what is your theory?

I'm not going to explain my theory because I'm not in the mood to have to deal with attacks from 10 of you at once. I'll let someone else make the case for me.

Read this from William Saletan at Slate.com:
Liberal Creationism

If you find yourself in disbelief, go ahead and click on the numerous hyperlinks to further educate yourself on the issue.

Wow... the amount of BS in just the first few paragraphs of Saletan's article beggars the imagination!

Lets start w/ the confusion between "intelligence" and "score on IQ test." Look into the history of the IQ test a bit when you have the time. Or, to use your phrase (which you won't like when it's sent your way), "to further educate yourself on the issue."

Then lets add in his notion that "Jewish-American" is a racial category and can be cited as such in parallel with "Asian" (itself not exactly a finely distinguished category, in that Asia covers some large % of the planet's surface).

In fact, I'd say the fact that white Americans who are Jews average a higher score on IQ tests than white Americans who are some other religion or ethnicity could not be clearer evidence that the spread of scores represents cultural not, as he goes on to call them, "genetic" differences. Duh.

Btw, science studies genetics by looking at genes and proteins, etc. not by looking at IQ test scores. No scientist has ever drawn any conclusion about genes or genetics from a population's score on any test whatever! It cannot be done.

Hence, as Saletan uses it in this article, the term "genetic" is just a stand-in for "racial." Of course, if the word "racial" had been used, the author would be outing himself. No one would need to consider anything else he wrote along those lines, because -- guess what? -- there are no such things as "races." Read that again: human "races" are mythical entities. They don't exist at all. Not in any way.

The idea of "race" was invented by one set of human beings as a way to justify (well, for starters, just to live with!) the unconscionably horrible things it was doing to another set of human beings. If that's not obvious to you, you are -- forgive me -- an ignoramus. And I say that with full justification, because if you *do* believe Mr. Saletan's crapola then you'll have to accept that, since I'm an American Jew with an IQ measured well above 150, I'm right and you're dumb. (No, I don't believe that, btw: I'm right because facts, logic, and consequential arguments are on my side)

It's been a long time, many a year, since I've encountered people making essentialist and racial arguments about the intelligence of individuals and groups. TBH, I don't think they have any part to play in a real discussion of the situation of our country or of its future.

If you're someone who entertains any variation of the idea that "black people" aren't as smart as "white people," you're not worthy of even a modicum of respect. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. You ought to ask yourself what you've done to let evil like that into your mind and what you can do to root it out.

[AFM]

Well, we've had a post by PIF referencing his incredible IQ and a post by nate offering a scientific defense of racism. All we need now is Zonk to casually mention his PhD and we'll be all set.

[AFM]

To the Zonk Signal!!!

Legend is, if you link to a breitbart article, an air horn sounds in his house.

[montestewart]

Well, we've had a post by PIF referencing his incredible IQ and a post by nate offering a scientific defense of racism. All we need now is Zonk to casually mention his PhD and we'll be all set.

hands' IQ is 147. Smart bunch here, but my money's on WizD being the 180+ IQ guy.

[AFM]

Well, we've had a post by PIF referencing his incredible IQ and a post by nate offering a scientific defense of racism. All we need now is Zonk to casually mention his PhD and we'll be all set.

hands' IQ is 147. Smart bunch here, but my money's on WizD being the 180+ IQ guy.

Oh for sure. I'm convinced he's one of those savants, that eats paint chips and has memorized the weather forecast for every day for the past decade.

[JWizmentality]

More proof that Hillary is a reptilian NWO robot, watch as she has a power failure and her BIOS reboots

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Dafuq lol. Holy hell that creeped me out.

[nate33]

Nate, the academic achievement gap between white and black kids starts literally at kindergarten. Being poor is one part of it, but living in a single parent household and growing up in a poor neighborhood where you're taught not to trust the system are huge factors as well. It's really not as simple as "sort by income" or "sort by dollars spent on education".

If you don't think it's the aforementioned socioeconomic factors causing black kids to struggle in school, what is your theory?

I'm not going to explain my theory because I'm not in the mood to have to deal with attacks from 10 of you at once. I'll let someone else make the case for me.

Read this from William Saletan at Slate.com:
Liberal Creationism

If you find yourself in disbelief, go ahead and click on the numerous hyperlinks to further educate yourself on the issue.

Wow... the amount of BS in just the first few paragraphs of Saletan's article beggars the imagination!

Lets start w/ the confusion between "intelligence" and "score on IQ test." Look into the history of the IQ test a bit when you have the time. Or, to use your phrase (which you won't like when it's sent your way), "to further educate yourself on the issue."

Then lets add in his notion that "Jewish-American" is a racial category and can be cited as such in parallel with "Asian" (itself not exactly a finely distinguished category, in that Asia covers some large % of the planet's surface).

In fact, I'd say the fact that white Americans who are Jews average a higher score on IQ tests than white Americans who are some other religion or ethnicity could not be clearer evidence that the spread of scores represents cultural not, as he goes on to call them, "genetic" differences. Duh.

Btw, science studies genetics by looking at genes and proteins, etc. not by looking at IQ test scores. No scientist has ever drawn any conclusion about genes or genetics from a population's score on any test whatever! It cannot be done.

Hence, as Saletan uses it in this article, the term "genetic" is just a stand-in for "racial." Of course, if the word "racial" had been used, the author would be outing himself. No one would need to consider anything else he wrote along those lines, because -- guess what? -- there are no such things as "races." Read that again: human "races" are mythical entities. They don't exist at all. Not in any way.

The idea of "race" was invented by one set of human beings as a way to justify (well, for starters, just to live with!) the unconscionably horrible things it was doing to another set of human beings. If that's not obvious to you, you are -- forgive me -- an ignoramus. And I say that with full justification, because if you *do* believe Mr. Saletan's crapola then you'll have to accept that, since I'm an American Jew with an IQ measured well above 150, I'm right and you're dumb. (No, I don't believe that, btw: I'm right because facts, logic, and consequential arguments are on my side)

It's been a long time, many a year, since I've encountered people making essentialist and racial arguments about the intelligence of individuals and groups. TBH, I don't think they have any part to play in a real discussion of the situation of our country or of its future.

If you're someone who entertains any variation of the idea that "black people" aren't as smart as "white people," you're not worthy of even a modicum of respect. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. You ought to ask yourself what you've done to let evil like that into your mind and what you can do to root it out.

You're objections are either red herrings, obfuscation, or flat out wrong. Instead of bothering to explain why you are wrong, I suggest you read this. He pretty much refutes and/or explains all of your objections.

https://jaymans.wordpress.com/jaymans-race-inheritance-and-iq-f-a-q-f-r-b/

I understand that it's taboo to discuss these issues in society. I even understand why the taboo exists: many people, are unable to make the distinction between individuals and groups. And certainly, there have been times in history where people have used racial differences to justify horrible things. So instead, we all politely lie about the subject and avoid talking about it. I'm just surprised that a man as intelligent as yourself is unable to independently research the science and see through the polite obfuscations.

I mean, seriously, race does not exist? You're smarter than that. Are Golden Retrievers and Rottweilers social constructs? How can 23andMe take a DNA test and pinpoint your origin down to a European village? How can forensic scientists identify the race of a skeleton? If a doctor didn't take your race into consideration when providing medical care, he'd be sued for malpractice.

There is a bell curve distribution in all physical and mental traits, and all physical and mental traits have a heritable component. We all fall on a bell curve for heritable component of height, IQ, aggression, compassion, psychopathy, melanin, malaria resistance, lactose tolerance you name it. Different races have different bell curve distributions. The more geographically isolated races have been from each other, the more distinct they are likely to be from other races. That doesn't mean that everybody from a particular race is going to be good at math or bad at basketball - an individual can fall anywhere on that bell curve; but there are group averages that matter when you are discussing group issues (like test scores). To ignore this is just plain silly. It's better to understand this phenomenon and try our best to address it in a productive and humane way.

[doclinkin]

I call editing shenanigans:

More proof that Hillary is a reptilian NWO robot, watch as she has a power failure and her BIOS reboots

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Here's the original video:

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She was clowning about the sudden ambush of follow up questions, and yes avoiding a topic.

[AFM]

More proof that Hillary is a reptilian NWO robot, watch as she has a power failure and her BIOS reboots

Watch on YouTube

Editing shenanigans.

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She was clowning about the sudden ambush of follow up questions, and yes avoiding a topic.

Dude...


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you don't need to explain that... to anyone...


Just to make clear, I don't think she's actually a robot that malfunctioned, and I don't think time slowed down drastically during her response.



It's all jokes man...

[nate33]

There's also this one:



I'm not sure what's going on. I know she had head trauma a while back and this could be a side effect. But maybe it's no big deal and it's something that's supposed to get better as she recovers. It's worth keeping an eye on.

[AFM]

There's also this one:



I'm not sure what's going on. I know she had head trauma a while back and this could be a side effect. But maybe it's no big deal and it's something that's supposed to get better as she recovers. It's worth keeping an eye on.

She honestly looks like a newly hatched bird.

[JWizmentality]

I only scored a 127.