Kremlin politics causing change in Prokhorov investments. Nets and Brooklyn now a larger share.
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Yeah I don't think he has any plans to sell the Nets right now. After doing everything to build the team the right way, replacing the front office, throwing caution to the wind in favor of player development and culture, it seems like Prokhorov is taking the necessary step back that San Antonio front office preaches. Prokhorov has expressed admiration for San Antonio's FO since entering the league and his actions are indicating him taking it to heart. Selling an NBA team just doesn't happen on a whim - there has to be ongoing discussions with the commissioner and an active search by the league to find a suitable owner. You're not just gonna wake up one day and have it all happen - there will be more signs and rumors about it. For now, I don't think that's happening yet but only time will tell


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Net Sentence wrote:Ror1997 wrote:Yeah let's just forget that the nets agreed to pay Johnson and Crabbe 125 million. Let's forget all the actual reasons why Marks signed bad players to cheap deals. Now is a perfect time to sell! Our team is at an all time low, and has one of the bleakest futures in the NBA. Prokorov is pushing his puppet Sean Marks to sign world class talent like Luis Scola so he can boost the value of the team! Yeah!
No. If Prok was trying to sell, ownership wouldve pushed for him to put a competive team on the floor. Not allow him to tear down the franchise and bring it back up which hurts the teams value.
Signing Crabbe was all for show. There was very little chance that we were going to pry him away from Paul Allen. It made for nice show but everyone knew that we werent getting him.
Tyler Johnson was the guy Marks actually expected to get. That would have been the most successful get business wise because it would have saved Prokorov over 12 million. How you may ask? Since TJ's contract was a poison pill contract, he would count as 12 mil towards the salary floor but only need to be paid out half that.
Who we have on the team is irrelevant. How we are currently doing as a team is irrelevant. A new owner isnt buying the team for 1 season and they usually clean house anyway. A sports team is a new toy to a billionaire and they want to build it from scratch. Getting the draft pick would be the bigger hold up.
Yeah man, you're in Marks head. You know the exact reasoning behind each and every one of his moves. Nothing is ever exactly how it seems, and everything is apart of a conspiracy. You're 100% right.
Marks wanted to impress people by signing Crabbe, a bench player the casual fan knows little about. The upfront payments, the trade kicker, and oh yeah the nearly 80 million dollars committed (signing a player to an offer sheet is a commitment, don't try to make it seem like its not just go fit your agenda) to Crabbe was all just a front. The nets were never serious about signing Crabbe. They just wanted to hype up the fanbase!
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Ror1997 wrote:Net Sentence wrote:Ror1997 wrote:Yeah let's just forget that the nets agreed to pay Johnson and Crabbe 125 million. Let's forget all the actual reasons why Marks signed bad players to cheap deals. Now is a perfect time to sell! Our team is at an all time low, and has one of the bleakest futures in the NBA. Prokorov is pushing his puppet Sean Marks to sign world class talent like Luis Scola so he can boost the value of the team! Yeah!
No. If Prok was trying to sell, ownership wouldve pushed for him to put a competive team on the floor. Not allow him to tear down the franchise and bring it back up which hurts the teams value.
Signing Crabbe was all for show. There was very little chance that we were going to pry him away from Paul Allen. It made for nice show but everyone knew that we werent getting him.
Tyler Johnson was the guy Marks actually expected to get. That would have been the most successful get business wise because it would have saved Prokorov over 12 million. How you may ask? Since TJ's contract was a poison pill contract, he would count as 12 mil towards the salary floor but only need to be paid out half that.
Who we have on the team is irrelevant. How we are currently doing as a team is irrelevant. A new owner isnt buying the team for 1 season and they usually clean house anyway. A sports team is a new toy to a billionaire and they want to build it from scratch. Getting the draft pick would be the bigger hold up.
Yeah man, you're in Marks head. You know the exact reasoning behind each and every one of his moves. Nothing is ever exactly how it seems, and everything is apart of a conspiracy. You're 100% right.
It's not a conspiracy, just my opinion. You are entitled to your own opinion just like I am entitled to mine. They don't have to be the same either. We all don't know what's the reason. We are all speculating.
Ror1997 wrote:Marks wanted to impress people by signing Crabbe, a bench player the casual fan knows little about. The upfront payments, the trade kicker, and oh yeah the nearly 80 million dollars committed (signing a player to an offer sheet is a commitment, don't try to make it seem like its not just go fit your agenda) to Crabbe was all just a front. The nets were never serious about signing Crabbe. They just wanted to hype up the fanbase!
Paul Allen is an old rich billionaire. You might not be old enough to remember but the Trailblazers use to be the top spending NBA team when they had Sheed, Struckland, Uncle Cliff, Sabonis, Pippen, Steve Smith, etc. He's not the owner you outbid. Signing Crabbe was always unlikely.
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Ror1997 wrote:Yeah let's just forget that the nets agreed to pay Johnson and Crabbe 125 million. Let's forget all the actual reasons why Marks signed bad players to cheap deals. Now is a perfect time to sell! Our team is at an all time low, and has one of the bleakest futures in the NBA. Prokorov is pushing his puppet Sean Marks to sign world class talent like Luis Scola so he can boost the value of the team! Yeah!
No. If Prok was trying to sell, ownership wouldve pushed for him to put a competive team on the floor. Not allow him to tear down the franchise and bring it back up which hurts the teams value.
Actually, I've always heard that if an owner wants to sell a franchise, it's best to strip it down as much as possible so the next owner can do shape the team in whatever way they see fit.
With that said, Proky has dumped more money into Brooklyn, not less. Prokhorov has always been consistent in saying that he has explored selling a MINORITY stake because that's simply good business. He can get even more immediate return on his investment now while still maintaining majority control.
And as you said, Marks didn't shrink away from giving out sizable offer sheets. The intention was not to conserve as much money as possible.
Until Prokhorov actually sells, I don't see the point of trying to interpret everything he does as a move to sell.
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There are many recent indications that Prok is investing in the Nets long term, such as the new training center, lots of auxiliary staff hirings, and especially the 6 million given to the NBA in order to get a DLeague affiliate team. That DLeague investment is not something that pays off in the short term.
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NyCeEvO wrote:Ror1997 wrote:Yeah let's just forget that the nets agreed to pay Johnson and Crabbe 125 million. Let's forget all the actual reasons why Marks signed bad players to cheap deals. Now is a perfect time to sell! Our team is at an all time low, and has one of the bleakest futures in the NBA. Prokorov is pushing his puppet Sean Marks to sign world class talent like Luis Scola so he can boost the value of the team! Yeah!
No. If Prok was trying to sell, ownership wouldve pushed for him to put a competive team on the floor. Not allow him to tear down the franchise and bring it back up which hurts the teams value.
Actually, I've always heard that if an owner wants to sell a franchise, it's best to strip it down as much as possible so the next owner can do shape the team in whatever way they see fit.
With that said, Proky has dumped more money into Brooklyn, not less. Prokhorov has always been consistent in saying that he has explored selling a MINORITY stake because that's simply good business. He can get even more immediate return on his investment now while still maintaining majority control.
And as you said, Marks didn't shrink away from giving out sizable offer sheets. The intention was not to conserve as much money as possible.
Until Prokhorov actually sells, I don't see the point of trying to interpret everything he does as a move to sell.
I would've thought a team would have peak value when its future doesn't look dim and it can still produce a winning record. But I can understand why a stripped down team would be attractive, I just don't think that's Peak value. Especially with a rough draft situation on our hands.
The more I think of it, I think the strip down is also already complete. If Prok was selling our team as a blank canvas, then I don't think he would made progressive moves like hiring Sean Marks. I know everybody isn't Marks biggest fan, but its clear that he's the kind of guy you bring in to move the team in a new direction. Not keep it stagnant so the next owner can bring in his guys.
But I agree that this is pretty much a waste of time to talk about. We're really jumping ahead of ourselves. I think we're just bored because the interesting part of the off season has come and gone.
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He's not selling his stake of the team. He's been moving his money out of Russia because Putin has it out for him.
I wonder how things will go over here now since Fuhrer Trump is in Putin's back pocket.

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