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If Brandon Knight was on the block could he currently net us an unprotected pick from a likely lottery team?

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Could Knight currently net us an unprotected pick from a likely lottery team?

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Re: If Brandon Knight was on the block could he currently net us an unprotected pick from a likely lottery team? 

Post#41 » by NavLDO » Tue Aug 9, 2016 5:43 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:It seems that the situation is just not right yet to trade Knight. His value needs to go up a little, and other teams have to get a little hungrier. Philly is the best trade partner, but I am sure, with the Colangelos and all, the conversation is awkward.


I agree--we have too many Guards, they have too many 'Bigs'.

I mean, they have (and yes I understand they re not all available for 'trade'; just listing them all):

Noel
Simmons
Okafor
Landry
Holmes
Embiid
Grant
Saric
Covington

...and maybe Brand (he's listed on the trade machine), and while Saric, Simmons, Covington, and Grant are listed as 'SF', but they are all capable, and have played, the PF position before, so that's why I listed them.

We have:

Bledsoe
Knight
Booker
Ulis
Jenkins
Goodwin
Barbosa

There's a trade there for the taking/making; it's value/fit needs to be established for both teams, and to me, the only player of that bunch I view as 'of the table' for us is Booker. For Philly, it's likely only Simmons, Saric, and Embiid would non-tradable assets...maybe Noel, a well, IDK. But I like Holmes, Grant, Covington, and Noel, Landry and Okafor would be 'ok'.

Philly's FA acquisitions to fill their holes at the Guard spots are uninspiring, at best, and think Knight and/or Bledsoe would be tempting. I'd be good with this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hqqv7y7

:o I know, but I think McConnell and Ulis, with occasional help from Goodwin, we'd be ok. We give them $27M, and take back $4M!... :D

Or better yet...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jzxxoyl

Ahhh...I love this time of year when we can make up rosterbation scenarios that will never work!
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Re: If Brandon Knight was on the block could he currently net us an unprotected pick from a likely lottery team? 

Post#42 » by MrMiyagi » Tue Aug 9, 2016 7:11 pm

NavLDO wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:It seems that the situation is just not right yet to trade Knight. His value needs to go up a little, and other teams have to get a little hungrier. Philly is the best trade partner, but I am sure, with the Colangelos and all, the conversation is awkward.


I agree--we have too many Guards, they have too many 'Bigs'.

I mean, they have (and yes I understand they re not all available for 'trade'; just listing them all):

Noel
Simmons
Okafor
Landry
Holmes
Embiid
Grant
Saric
Covington

...and maybe Brand (he's listed on the trade machine), and while Saric, Simmons, Covington, and Grant are listed as 'SF', but they are all capable, and have played, the PF position before, so that's why I listed them.

We have:

Bledsoe
Knight
Booker
Ulis
Jenkins
Goodwin
Barbosa

There's a trade there for the taking/making; it's value/fit needs to be established for both teams, and to me, the only player of that bunch I view as 'of the table' for us is Booker. For Philly, it's likely only Simmons, Saric, and Embiid would non-tradable assets...maybe Noel, a well, IDK. But I like Holmes, Grant, Covington, and Noel, Landry and Okafor would be 'ok'.

Philly's FA acquisitions to fill their holes at the Guard spots are uninspiring, at best, and think Knight and/or Bledsoe would be tempting. I'd be good with this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hqqv7y7

:o I know, but I think McConnell and Ulis, with occasional help from Goodwin, we'd be ok. We give them $27M, and take back $4M!... :D

Or better yet...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jzxxoyl

Ahhh...I love this time of year when we can make up rosterbation scenarios that will never work!

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Re: If Brandon Knight was on the block could he currently net us an unprotected pick from a likely lottery team? 

Post#43 » by jcsunsfan » Tue Aug 9, 2016 7:12 pm

NavLDO wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:It seems that the situation is just not right yet to trade Knight. His value needs to go up a little, and other teams have to get a little hungrier. Philly is the best trade partner, but I am sure, with the Colangelos and all, the conversation is awkward.


I agree--we have too many Guards, they have too many 'Bigs'.

I mean, they have (and yes I understand they re not all available for 'trade'; just listing them all):

Noel
Simmons
Okafor
Landry
Holmes
Embiid
Grant
Saric
Covington

...and maybe Brand (he's listed on the trade machine), and while Saric, Simmons, Covington, and Grant are listed as 'SF', but they are all capable, and have played, the PF position before, so that's why I listed them.

We have:

Bledsoe
Knight
Booker
Ulis
Jenkins
Goodwin
Barbosa

There's a trade there for the taking/making; it's value/fit needs to be established for both teams, and to me, the only player of that bunch I view as 'of the table' for us is Booker. For Philly, it's likely only Simmons, Saric, and Embiid would non-tradable assets...maybe Noel, a well, IDK. But I like Holmes, Grant, Covington, and Noel, Landry and Okafor would be 'ok'.

Philly's FA acquisitions to fill their holes at the Guard spots are uninspiring, at best, and think Knight and/or Bledsoe would be tempting. I'd be good with this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hqqv7y7

:o I know, but I think McConnell and Ulis, with occasional help from Goodwin, we'd be ok. We give them $27M, and take back $4M!... :D

Or better yet...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jzxxoyl

Ahhh...I love this time of year when we can make up rosterbation scenarios that will never work!


I think this post has a lot of merit. But I do not like the proposed trades. We do not need cap space and we do not need to take back more players in a multi player swap. Both teams will want to trade quantity for quality, but that will not work. It has to be fit for fit. They need a guard, we need a big, both players need to have star prospects.

I imagine that the we want to get rid of Knight, but they want Bledsoe. Not sure though. Knight seems to be a Colangelo type of player. I am sure they want to send us Okafor, who is not a McD type of player. I would bet that McD is holding out for Saric. I would love a Knight for Saric swap.
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Re: If Brandon Knight was on the block could he currently net us an unprotected pick from a likely lottery team? 

Post#44 » by bwgood77 » Tue Aug 9, 2016 7:51 pm

NavLDO wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:It seems that the situation is just not right yet to trade Knight. His value needs to go up a little, and other teams have to get a little hungrier. Philly is the best trade partner, but I am sure, with the Colangelos and all, the conversation is awkward.


I agree--we have too many Guards, they have too many 'Bigs'.

I mean, they have (and yes I understand they re not all available for 'trade'; just listing them all):

Noel
Simmons
Okafor
Landry
Holmes
Embiid
Grant
Saric
Covington

...and maybe Brand (he's listed on the trade machine), and while Saric, Simmons, Covington, and Grant are listed as 'SF', but they are all capable, and have played, the PF position before, so that's why I listed them.

We have:

Bledsoe
Knight
Booker
Ulis
Jenkins
Goodwin
Barbosa

There's a trade there for the taking/making; it's value/fit needs to be established for both teams, and to me, the only player of that bunch I view as 'of the table' for us is Booker. For Philly, it's likely only Simmons, Saric, and Embiid would non-tradable assets...maybe Noel, a well, IDK. But I like Holmes, Grant, Covington, and Noel, Landry and Okafor would be 'ok'.

Philly's FA acquisitions to fill their holes at the Guard spots are uninspiring, at best, and think Knight and/or Bledsoe would be tempting. I'd be good with this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hqqv7y7

:o I know, but I think McConnell and Ulis, with occasional help from Goodwin, we'd be ok. We give them $27M, and take back $4M!... :D

Or better yet...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jzxxoyl

Ahhh...I love this time of year when we can make up rosterbation scenarios that will never work!
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Re: If Brandon Knight was on the block could he currently net us an unprotected pick from a likely lottery team? 

Post#45 » by NavLDO » Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:00 am

jcsunsfan wrote:
NavLDO wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:It seems that the situation is just not right yet to trade Knight. His value needs to go up a little, and other teams have to get a little hungrier. Philly is the best trade partner, but I am sure, with the Colangelos and all, the conversation is awkward.


I agree--we have too many Guards, they have too many 'Bigs'.

I mean, they have (and yes I understand they re not all available for 'trade'; just listing them all):

Noel
Simmons
Okafor
Landry
Holmes
Embiid
Grant
Saric
Covington

...and maybe Brand (he's listed on the trade machine), and while Saric, Simmons, Covington, and Grant are listed as 'SF', but they are all capable, and have played, the PF position before, so that's why I listed them.

We have:

Bledsoe
Knight
Booker
Ulis
Jenkins
Goodwin
Barbosa

There's a trade there for the taking/making; it's value/fit needs to be established for both teams, and to me, the only player of that bunch I view as 'of the table' for us is Booker. For Philly, it's likely only Simmons, Saric, and Embiid would non-tradable assets...maybe Noel, a well, IDK. But I like Holmes, Grant, Covington, and Noel, Landry and Okafor would be 'ok'.

Philly's FA acquisitions to fill their holes at the Guard spots are uninspiring, at best, and think Knight and/or Bledsoe would be tempting. I'd be good with this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hqqv7y7

:o I know, but I think McConnell and Ulis, with occasional help from Goodwin, we'd be ok. We give them $27M, and take back $4M!... :D

Or better yet...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jzxxoyl

Ahhh...I love this time of year when we can make up rosterbation scenarios that will never work!


I think this post has a lot of merit. But I do not like the proposed trades. We do not need cap space and we do not need to take back more players in a multi player swap. Both teams will want to trade quantity for quality, but that will not work. It has to be fit for fit. They need a guard, we need a big, both players need to have star prospects.

I imagine that the we want to get rid of Knight, but they want Bledsoe. Not sure though. Knight seems to be a Colangelo type of player. I am sure they want to send us Okafor, who is not a McD type of player. I would bet that McD is holding out for Saric. I would love a Knight for Saric swap.


Nah, those were more of me just having a little fun. None of those would ever come close to happening. But yes, the premise would be more like what you said.
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Re: If Brandon Knight was on the block could he currently net us an unprotected pick from a likely lottery team? 

Post#46 » by NavLDO » Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:06 am

bwgood77 wrote:
NavLDO wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:It seems that the situation is just not right yet to trade Knight. His value needs to go up a little, and other teams have to get a little hungrier. Philly is the best trade partner, but I am sure, with the Colangelos and all, the conversation is awkward.


I agree--we have too many Guards, they have too many 'Bigs'.

I mean, they have (and yes I understand they re not all available for 'trade'; just listing them all):

Noel
Simmons
Okafor
Landry
Holmes
Embiid
Grant
Saric
Covington

...and maybe Brand (he's listed on the trade machine), and while Saric, Simmons, Covington, and Grant are listed as 'SF', but they are all capable, and have played, the PF position before, so that's why I listed them.

We have:

Bledsoe
Knight
Booker
Ulis
Jenkins
Goodwin
Barbosa

There's a trade there for the taking/making; it's value/fit needs to be established for both teams, and to me, the only player of that bunch I view as 'of the table' for us is Booker. For Philly, it's likely only Simmons, Saric, and Embiid would non-tradable assets...maybe Noel, a well, IDK. But I like Holmes, Grant, Covington, and Noel, Landry and Okafor would be 'ok'.

Philly's FA acquisitions to fill their holes at the Guard spots are uninspiring, at best, and think Knight and/or Bledsoe would be tempting. I'd be good with this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hqqv7y7

:o I know, but I think McConnell and Ulis, with occasional help from Goodwin, we'd be ok. We give them $27M, and take back $4M!... :D

Or better yet...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jzxxoyl

Ahhh...I love this time of year when we can make up rosterbation scenarios that will never work!
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Re: If Brandon Knight was on the block could he currently net us an unprotected pick from a likely lottery team? 

Post#47 » by King4Day » Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:47 pm

NavLDO wrote:Philly's FA acquisitions to fill their holes at the Guard spots are uninspiring, at best, and think Knight and/or Bledsoe would be tempting. I'd be good with this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hqqv7y7


How on Earth does Philly acquiring both Knight and Bledsoe net them 9 more losses? Trade machine makes no sense to me at all sometimes.
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Re: If Brandon Knight was on the block could he currently net us an unprotected pick from a likely lottery team? 

Post#48 » by jcsunsfan » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:29 pm

DarkHawk wrote:
NavLDO wrote:Philly's FA acquisitions to fill their holes at the Guard spots are uninspiring, at best, and think Knight and/or Bledsoe would be tempting. I'd be good with this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hqqv7y7


How on Earth does Philly acquiring both Knight and Bledsoe net them 9 more losses? Trade machine makes no sense to me at all sometimes.


I never look at those things on the trade machine. But that is silly.
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Re: If Brandon Knight was on the block could he currently net us an unprotected pick from a likely lottery team? 

Post#49 » by NavLDO » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:58 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:
NavLDO wrote:Philly's FA acquisitions to fill their holes at the Guard spots are uninspiring, at best, and think Knight and/or Bledsoe would be tempting. I'd be good with this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hqqv7y7


How on Earth does Philly acquiring both Knight and Bledsoe net them 9 more losses? Trade machine makes no sense to me at all sometimes.


I never look at those things on the trade machine. But that is silly.


I agree. They must include 'games not played' in there calculations; that's the only thing that make sense.

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