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Round 3 - Kyler Fackrell - OLB

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Re: Round 3 - Kyler Fackrell - OLB 

Post#61 » by HKPackFan » Tue May 17, 2016 6:27 am

I saw one scout say stay away from him because of his age he's peaked physically. He played as a 22-25 year old in college vs 18-22yr olds so had a physical advantage that is gone in the pros.

I thought that was an interesting theory. I think it's similar to a guy who's a stud in a D2 or D3 school or small school playing against lesser competition, and will the player still be as good in the pros against top competition.

I also think a Senior Bowl performance would be an important indicator, since the player would be playing against a lot of players about to get drafted into the NFL.

Interesting food for thought, but I hope he does well, with out depth at OLB we need someone to step up.



Anyway nice article about the Family man Fackrell. Seems like a good fit for GB.

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/30006/for-packers-rookie-kyler-fackrell-lombardis-faith-family-football-is-perfect-fit
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- There were no ESPN cameras there waiting to capture the moment, no extended family members hooting and hollering in the background when the call came in, no elaborate parties celebrating the occasion afterward.

No, when the Green Bay Packers took Utah State outside linebacker Kyler Fackrell in the third round of the NFL draft, it was just the three of them in their tiny off-campus apartment -- Kyler, his wife, Elizabeth, and their 16-month-old daughter, Delaney.

And one poopy diaper.

"We sat there and watched everybody get drafted -- all the videos, all the families. And when Kyler got drafted, it was very quiet and peaceful. And that’s exactly how he wanted it," Liz recalled Monday afternoon from that same apartment in Logan, Utah. "After the phone call from the Packers, I’m getting all these texts from our friends congratulating us, and I’m all excited, and I look over to see what he’s doing -- after just getting the biggest phone call of his life -- and he’s changing Delaney’s dirty diaper.

"He wholeheartedly believes that that’s his job. We are his motivation. That’s an amazing thing. I mean, most guys his age aren’t changing dirty diapers. They don’t have that responsibility."

Then again, Fackrell isn’t your typical draft pick. He's easily the oldest player in a draft class full of young'uns. Fackrell will turn 25 in November, and Packers 20-year-old first-round pick Kenny Clark was the youngest player picked in the entire draft. Fackrell spent last weekend’s rookie orientation camp alternating between immersing himself in his iPad playbook and checking his Android phone for video snippets of what Liz and Delaney were up to without him. ("We don’t FaceTime because he refuses to get an iPhone," Liz said in mock exasperation.)

And back home, when Liz pulled up video on the Packers app of a group interview her husband did with reporters, Delaney overheard it and giddily started shouting "Dada, Dada, Dada!" before commandeering the phone and showering the screen with kisses. If she were listening closely in between smooches, she would have heard her dad talking about how much family means to him.

"For everything that I do, they're my motivation," Fackrell explained during the interview. "I'm sure in training camp, when I don't feel good, when I don’t feel like getting up and going and working hard, it's going to be them in the back of my mind that's going to be making me go to work every day."

Fackrell is no stranger to hard work. After high school, he turned down Utah State’s scholarship offer while contemplating a Mormon mission and spent a year working as a painter in Arizona. When he decided to join the Aggies, he did so as a walk-on before earning his scholarship. And when a torn anterior cruciate ligament ended his 2014 season after one game, he attacked his rehab with the same kind of zeal his new teammate, wide receiver Jordy Nelson, did, returning to post 15 tackles for loss and five sacks as a senior last season.

He also gained further perspective on life, realizing that the God-works-in-mysterious-ways timing of the injury was perfect for him as a husband and soon-to-be dad, even though the torn ACL scuttled his plan to have a breakout junior season and declare early for the draft.

"That injury wasn’t what I had planned -- what we had planned -- but in a lot of ways it helped me, I think. It was a blessing in disguise for our family," Fackrell said. "She actually had a pretty rough pregnancy. She was sick a lot of the time.

"And if I had been going through the whole process of training and going through the combine and everything, I wouldn’t have had very much time with [Delaney] when she was first born. And so just being able to be there for my wife through the pregnancy and support her and being able to spend a lot of time with my daughter was a good thing."

Added Liz: "A lot of women have difficult pregnancies. A lot of women have it way worse than I did. It was just very trying. So as difficult as the season was for him, to sit back and watch it and not be a part of it, not feel like part of the team, it was so comforting for me to have him there. And when Delaney was born, he was able to have such a big role in her life -- her first bath, her first diaper, being up with her at night."

Married during the bye week of the Aggies’ 2013 season, the Fackrells are adjusting to their first extended time apart as the rookies joined the veterans this week for the full-squad offseason program. But Liz and Delaney will travel to Green Bay this month for the start of organized team activities, and Kyler's focus is squarely on football.

That doesn’t mean Fackrell can’t have his moments of childlike awe, however. Upon arriving for the rookie camp last week, Kyler entered the Packers' locker room to find his next-door neighbor will be Julius Peppers, the team’s 36-year-old outside linebacker who is likely to be enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame someday.

For a moment, he might not have been the mature, reserved family man he usually is.

"Kyler is a really even-keeled person, he doesn’t show a lot of emotion. He’ll get a sack and he’s very excited, but he won’t show it. He won’t pound his chest," Liz said. "And he does not take pictures. Of anything -- except for Delaney. But he sends me a picture of his locker. That means he’s very excited. 'My locker is right next to Julius Peppers' locker!' That’s really out of the ordinary for him."
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Re: Round 3 - Kyler Fackrell - OLB 

Post#62 » by bleu » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:35 am

Sorry to be "that guy" who resurrects a super old thread out of nowhere, but I was just browsing the board and thought I might be able to offer some insight on Kyler Fackrell. I've been watching him since his first year at Utah State, the only D1 school that offered him a scholarship.

Kyler comes with lots of pros and a few obvious cons. The cons being his age and his recent health history, many view him as just an old guy with bad knees. Those things are true, but I think he brings a lot to the table as well. Kyler is a heluva athlete, and he's the kind of guy you want in your locker room. He can lead, he doesn't get into trouble, and he's one of the hardest workers you could ever ask for. I mean, the fact that he went from having 1 scholarship offer to getting drafted in the 3rd round says a lot about him IMO. He's a quick learner. He's not your typical rookie, but that's not an entirely bad thing, I fully believe that if he is put into a situation where he can make an impact he will be ready for it right off the bat. If he can stay healthy (and I get that that's a big IF), he's still a guy who can give your franchise 6-8 good, solid years of play.

The Packers FO took a big risk when they drafted him, but I know they did their research. A third round pick isn't something that you just throw away, he has a TON of upside. I hope that your team stays healthy so he doesn't get a ton of playing time right away, but if I were a Packers fan I would feel comfortable knowing that he could come out in a pinch.
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Re: Round 3 - Kyler Fackrell - OLB 

Post#63 » by HKPackFan » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:45 am

I noticed him against the browns, they were playing scrubs at that point, but he was tall and fast and got to the QB quick on a sack.

I didn't really notice him much against Oakland, but sometimes when trying to watch so many backups guys get lost in the shuffle.

I really want to see Fackrell do well because:

#1) Peppers is old. He's going to need to be replaced very soon.
#2) Maybe unwarranted, but Claymaker has been sacrificing his body for so long I do fear in a couple years it will catch up to him and need a reduced snap count.
#3) Nick Perry & Datone Jones should be the future, but their careers have been iffy as #1 draft picks, not a lot of production, Nick perry has been injury prone, D. Jones a flop at DE and being repositioned. I hope 1 or 2 of them work out, but it is possible 1 or both will be gone since the packers have been waiting YEARS for a return on these guys and may finally lose patience and cut them loose. Perry is on a 1 year prove it deal, D. Jones is on the last year of his rookie deal.
#4) J. Elliot has shown a lot of potential as a good pass rusher but his Run D can be bad at times, he might just be a 3rd down rushing specialist and nothing more.

That kinda leaves Fackrell at #6. He's not needed in the immediate, but my hope is he can blossom into a complete OLB and he could very well be an important player within 1-2 years (as probably 2 of those ahead of him will be gone). At his age I expect his learning curve to be much shorter and my hope is by next year he earns a spot in the rotation as the packers usually use all four top OLBs on game day.
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Re: Round 3 - Kyler Fackrell - OLB 

Post#64 » by Balls2TheWalls » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:21 pm

The problem for Fackrell is that he isn't elite at anything except probably tackling in space. He isn't elite quick for the pros, and he is definitely well under elite as far as strength in the pros. I still think he was a reach in the 3rd. Right now the only reason he will make our roster is because he was a 3rd round pick. He and McCray are both battling each other for the 6th spot at the position (or 5th if you really count Jones as a DE).
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Post#65 » by bleu » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:31 pm

One other thing that I might add is that before his torn ACL, he was viewed by most scouts as a solid first rounder. Of course an injury like that takes a hit on a player's draft stock, and the injury added one more year onto his college career making his age entering the NFL even worse, but he came back and played the entire 2015 season looking like he hadn't skipped a beat. I hope he gets a lot of playing opportunity in preseason game 3 and 4 for you guys, I feel like he could impress.
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Post#66 » by WiscoKing13 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:08 pm

HKPackFan wrote:I noticed him against the browns, they were playing scrubs at that point, but he was tall and fast and got to the QB quick on a sack.

I didn't really notice him much against Oakland, but sometimes when trying to watch so many backups guys get lost in the shuffle.

I really want to see Fackrell do well because:

#1) Peppers is old. He's going to need to be replaced very soon.
#2) Maybe unwarranted, but Claymaker has been sacrificing his body for so long I do fear in a couple years it will catch up to him and need a reduced snap count.
#3) Nick Perry & Datone Jones should be the future, but their careers have been iffy as #1 draft picks, not a lot of production, Nick perry has been injury prone, D. Jones a flop at DE and being repositioned. I hope 1 or 2 of them work out, but it is possible 1 or both will be gone since the packers have been waiting YEARS for a return on these guys and may finally lose patience and cut them loose. Perry is on a 1 year prove it deal, D. Jones is on the last year of his rookie deal.
#4) J. Elliot has shown a lot of potential as a good pass rusher but his Run D can be bad at times, he might just be a 3rd down rushing specialist and nothing more.

That kinda leaves Fackrell at #6. He's not needed in the immediate, but my hope is he can blossom into a complete OLB and he could very well be an important player within 1-2 years (as probably 2 of those ahead of him will be gone). At his age I expect his learning curve to be much shorter and my hope is by next year he earns a spot in the rotation as the packers usually use all four top OLBs on game day.

I think you're giving elliot too much credit, he's done nothing but run around 3rd OT's. Has zero actual pass rushing skills.
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