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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#61 » by bwgood77 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:51 am

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:How do you guys rank Arizona's top 3 WRs? As of right now I think I'd like whoever goes last in my draft.


At this point, probably John Brown, Fitzgerald and then Floyd. Floyd always disappoints me. Brown is a stud and he is getting better, will score long tds, and has built chemistry with Palmer. And he will probably be the last guy drafted out of the three so you could be set.

Also don't sleep on Travis Benjamin and Stevie Johnson for the Chargers. They will be overlooked but any guy who comes from another team to play with Rivers, especially a deep threat like Benjamin does well. I mean the guy did well in Cleveland and they have to have the worst qbs in the league, or did last year.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#62 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:34 am

Yeah I am targeting Benjamin
BucksRuleAll22 wrote:Calvin Johnson is horrible and not a top WR.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#63 » by BUCKnation » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:15 pm

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Profound23 wrote:What do you guys think of David Johnson? Is he for real or the next CJ Anderson?


He's for real. He is strong, fast, can catch passes and basically do everything. Two of his first NFL plays were amazing. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the best fantasy rb this year.

I think he is legit, but probably won't put the same gaudy numbers of last year simply b/c Arizona will have their other running backs back.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#64 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:54 pm

First draft is in the books. 16 team, 2 player keeper league, with full ppr. Start QB, RBx2, WRx2, TE, K, D/ST. Pretty happy with it. Not happy with my RB depth, but I rarely am in this 16 team league.

1.04: Dez Bryant
2.13: Latavius Murray
3.04: CJ Anderson
4.13: Sammy Watkins (Keeper)
5.04: Cam Newton (Keeper)
6.13: Tevin Coleman
7.04: Willie Snead
7.06: Christine Michael (Pick Acquired Via Trade Last Season)
8.13: Tyler Boyd
9.04: Dwayne Allen
10.13: Minnesota Vikings
11.04: Rishard Matthews
12.13: Joe Flacco
13.04: Arizona Kicker
14.13: Traded in the deal involving the 7.06 pick

QB: Cam Newton, Joe Flacco
RB: Latavius Murray, Tevin Coleman
RB: CJ Anderson, Christine Michael
WR: Dez Bryant, Willie Snead, Rishard Matthews
WR: Sammy Watkins, Tyler Boyd
TE: Dwayne Allen
K: Arizona guy
D/ST: Minnesota Vikings
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Post#65 » by MikeIsGood » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:09 am

I am new to both keeper leagues and auction leagues (well, it's year two of the league), and I have a question for you guys.

Long story short, I can keep Le'Veon Bell for $3. I have to do that, right? Because even if he were to slip to second/third round in a standard mock, his value will still be way, way more than $3, right?
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Post#66 » by M-C-G » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:27 pm

worthlessBucks wrote:Drafting is always the highlight of the fantasy season for me, even if I make it to the playoffs or the championship. Getting a chance to put a stamp on players you think will breakout, always a blast.

Lamar Miller is getting insane amounts of hype, almost too much. Only would disappoint what I would expect in my mind.


I literally thought the same thing today and that I was going to target the back up as a flyer, but then noticed Alfred Blue and Grimes are the back ups
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#67 » by M-C-G » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:31 pm

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Profound23 wrote:What do you guys think of David Johnson? Is he for real or the next CJ Anderson?


He's for real. He is strong, fast, can catch passes and basically do everything. Two of his first NFL plays were amazing. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the best fantasy rb this year.


Yeah, I LOVE David Johnson. Guy is such a great blend of size, speed, elusive and hands. With that said, I think he isn't going to get as many touches as people expect. So I'm not sure he will deliver a first round return in most leagues.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#68 » by M-C-G » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:36 pm

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PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:How do you guys rank Arizona's top 3 WRs? As of right now I think I'd like whoever goes last in my draft.


At this point, probably John Brown, Fitzgerald and then Floyd. Floyd always disappoints me. Brown is a stud and he is getting better, will score long tds, and has built chemistry with Palmer. And he will probably be the last guy drafted out of the three so you could be set.

Also don't sleep on Travis Benjamin and Stevie Johnson for the Chargers. They will be overlooked but any guy who comes from another team to play with Rivers, especially a deep threat like Benjamin does well. I mean the guy did well in Cleveland and they have to have the worst qbs in the league, or did last year.


I'd almost reverse that order oddly. But it wouldn't surprise me if they all ended up equal. The problem is that they will all receive their points differently. Brown might get 80% of his points over 4 good games. Fitz we'll be like 8 points every week plus whatever TD he gets. And Floyd will be every other week with like 120 yards and a TD, then like 2 catches for 24 yards in the other weeks.
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Post#69 » by M-C-G » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:38 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:I am new to both keeper leagues and auction leagues (well, it's year two of the league), and I have a question for you guys.

Long story short, I can keep Le'Veon Bell for $3. I have to do that, right? Because even if he were to slip to second/third round in a standard mock, his value will still be way, way more than $3, right?


Unless your total budget is like $6 you need to be keeping him.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#70 » by MikeIsGood » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:52 pm

M-C-G wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:I am new to both keeper leagues and auction leagues (well, it's year two of the league), and I have a question for you guys.

Long story short, I can keep Le'Veon Bell for $3. I have to do that, right? Because even if he were to slip to second/third round in a standard mock, his value will still be way, way more than $3, right?


Unless your total budget is like $6 you need to be keeping him.


$200. That's what I figured - no way I get better value than that, even with 3 games lost. Thanks.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#71 » by bwgood77 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:55 pm

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Profound23 wrote:What do you guys think of David Johnson? Is he for real or the next CJ Anderson?


He's for real. He is strong, fast, can catch passes and basically do everything. Two of his first NFL plays were amazing. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the best fantasy rb this year.


Yeah, I LOVE David Johnson. Guy is such a great blend of size, speed, elusive and hands. With that said, I think he isn't going to get as many touches as people expect. So I'm not sure he will deliver a first round return in most leagues.


Also it depends on if you get points for kickoff return tds. He could get a couple of those. I think he will get a ton of touches. He will be the primary back to catch passes and the main every down back. Ellington is good but really injury prone and Chris Johnson is just getting fairly old.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#72 » by bwgood77 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:57 pm

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PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:How do you guys rank Arizona's top 3 WRs? As of right now I think I'd like whoever goes last in my draft.


At this point, probably John Brown, Fitzgerald and then Floyd. Floyd always disappoints me. Brown is a stud and he is getting better, will score long tds, and has built chemistry with Palmer. And he will probably be the last guy drafted out of the three so you could be set.

Also don't sleep on Travis Benjamin and Stevie Johnson for the Chargers. They will be overlooked but any guy who comes from another team to play with Rivers, especially a deep threat like Benjamin does well. I mean the guy did well in Cleveland and they have to have the worst qbs in the league, or did last year.


I'd almost reverse that order oddly. But it wouldn't surprise me if they all ended up equal. The problem is that they will all receive their points differently. Brown might get 80% of his points over 4 good games. Fitz we'll be like 8 points every week plus whatever TD he gets. And Floyd will be every other week with like 120 yards and a TD, then like 2 catches for 24 yards in the other weeks.


Yes, Brown will have the most deep plays. I just have had Michael Floyd too many years and he always disappoints, has nagging injuries or something. Fitzgerald was pretty inconsistent until last year. He has moved to slot receiver though and I bet that helps him. John Brown is pretty amazing and I think will only get better. He's made some crazy catches and has speed.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#73 » by M-C-G » Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:02 pm

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M-C-G wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:I am new to both keeper leagues and auction leagues (well, it's year two of the league), and I have a question for you guys.

Long story short, I can keep Le'Veon Bell for $3. I have to do that, right? Because even if he were to slip to second/third round in a standard mock, his value will still be way, way more than $3, right?


Unless your total budget is like $6 you need to be keeping him.


$200. That's what I figured - no way I get better value than that, even with 3 games lost. Thanks.


On ESPN his ADP value right now is $48 with a $200 budget.
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Re: OT - Fantasy Football 2016 

Post#74 » by worthlessBucks » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:39 am

M-C-G wrote:I literally thought the same thing today and that I was going to target the back up as a flyer, but then noticed Alfred Blue and Grimes are the back ups

My concerns come from Brock really. Who knows how good he will be? I'm not a big fan of such small sample sizes, but hey, 72 million for you! Tannehill was terrible, but at least he had a big arm to throw it down the field once in awhile to keep defenses honest, thus allowing Lamar some space. Houston also has a lot of injuries on the OL at the moment.
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Post#75 » by Kerb Hohl » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:12 pm

It all depends what you believe on why Lamar got limited touches in Miami. Was it inept coaching or was it something that the coaches knew that we didn't?

He was lauded as a talented player coming in but didn't get a chance to even get a decent amount of touches until the last 2 years...and then when he did, the team seemed to cap him at 15 touches/game. With those touches, he was extremely productive. People are connecting the dots that that production on a capped workload now thrust into the Arian Foster workhorse role means incredible production. Not saying I believe it, but that's the debate.

In 2014 he was the #9 RB with 100 (200 for Demarco) less touches than most guys above him.
In 2015 he was the #6 RB with 75-100 less touches than most above him.
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Post#76 » by M-C-G » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:37 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:It all depends what you believe on why Lamar got limited touches in Miami. Was it inept coaching or was it something that the coaches knew that we didn't?

He was lauded as a talented player coming in but didn't get a chance to even get a decent amount of touches until the last 2 years...and then when he did, the team seemed to cap him at 15 touches/game. With those touches, he was extremely productive. People are connecting the dots that that production on a capped workload now thrust into the Arian Foster workhorse role means incredible production. Not saying I believe it, but that's the debate.

In 2014 he was the #9 RB with 100 (200 for Demarco) less touches than most guys above him.
In 2015 he was the #6 RB with 75-100 less touches than most above him.


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Post#77 » by BUCKnation » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:11 pm

I say inept coaches. They were 5-2 when he got more than 15 touches.
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Post#78 » by Profound23 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:11 pm

BUCKnation wrote:I say inept coaches. They were 5-2 when he got more than 15 touches.



Agreed, I will admit I was looking at Miller as a late 2nd or early 3rd. I can't justify taking him as early as others have him. Over Leveon Bell? Jamaal Charles? Davonta Freeman? Dez? Gronk? AJ Green? Some even projecting him over AP?

I realize their is high potential, but A LOT of questions. I am even afraid of how high Hopkins is going.
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Post#79 » by Profound23 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:37 pm

Personally I think Leveon Bell is being highly undervalued. He is only going to miss three games, and you just have to make sure you get DeAngelo Williams in the midrounds before everyone else. In that offense, you can't lose unless they both end up on IR.
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Post#80 » by BUCKnation » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:33 pm

Profound23 wrote:
BUCKnation wrote:I say inept coaches. They were 5-2 when he got more than 15 touches.



Agreed, I will admit I was looking at Miller as a late 2nd or early 3rd. I can't justify taking him as early as others have him. Over Leveon Bell? Jamaal Charles? Davonta Freeman? Dez? Gronk? AJ Green? Some even projecting him over AP?

I realize their is high potential, but A LOT of questions. I am even afraid of how high Hopkins is going.

I agree, he is a tier below those guys, but definitely ahead of someone like Zeke or Lacy, especially in PPR.

I got him in the third last year in a PPR so I think he is probably late 1st or early 2nd from what I've seen.

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