Greensboro Swarm: The G-League Thread

Post #181 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:34 pm

Good question and not sure, but I would say a max contract should be at least 10x what it is now and the minimum salary should be at least $50K.

Post #182 » by **Diop** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:36 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
JDR720 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:They better revisit the NBDL salary structures in the next CBA. No reason bench NBA players should be getting $10M+ per year and the best NBDL guys only can possibly get 0.2% of that. Would love for the NBDL to become a competitive league that is viewed as a superior prep route as opposed to college.

it should be higher, but salary in sports is based on revenue. if the NBADL dosn't make any money then player salaries aren't going to be high.

The value of the NBDL should be in providing well trained, well coached, and talented players that are readily available to NBA teams. The aggregate salaries of all NBDL players on a team should be worth much more than $200K, even if they generate no revenue at all.

It suits me, we've been getting nba hopefuls playing here in Australia as the money is better than the D league. James Ennis was the success story that set the trend

BlackOutBuzz · Post #183 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:42 pm

JDR720 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:They better revisit the NBDL salary structures in the next CBA. No reason bench NBA players should be getting $10M+ per year and the best NBDL guys only can possibly get 0.2% of that. Would love for the NBDL to become a competitive league that is viewed as a superior prep route as opposed to college.

it should be higher, but salary in sports is based on revenue. if the NBADL dosn't make any money then player salaries aren't going to be high.

"If you build it, they will come."

It's a circular issue. The salaries are low because there's no revenue coming in. There's no revenue coming in because there aren't any prospects to drive ratings. There are no prospects because the salaries aren't enough to offset a college scholarship. And around we go.

Something's gotta give, I'm thinking D-League contracts will definitely be discussed during next year's CBA negotiations, I'm just not sure how much it'll change. The players are gonna want a bigger portion of the pie to offset losing some to the DL, but I'm not sure the owners will comply.

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Post #184 » by **JDR720** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:54 pm

you could expand the draft to maybe 4 rounds and make it a requirement that players have to spend X number of games in the D-league before they are "called up"

also those 3rd and 4th round guys wouldn't count against the cap of the NBA team. i think you can also do "compensation" picks which would be awarded to teams that lose their key FA's, like we would get a couple comp picks for losing Al and Lin. where these picks are will be decided by how good those players who left are. kind of like the MLB.

Post #185 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:58 pm

I think teams should be able to use the NBDL like they would Euro teams - they can draft guys and put them on their NBDL team without tying up a roster spot, but that player wouldn't be eligible to play for the team until the following year. That way instead of "draft and stash" where you put guys in Europe where you have no control over their PT and coaching, you could plug them in to your NBDL team and control their development without occupying a roster spot. To make that attractive to prospects you'd have to pay them a lot more than what they get now though.

Post #186 » by **Diop** » Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:12 am

I actually like a suggestion I read where it said that NBA teams could draft players then let them go to College.

Let some of these College boys get paid, the teams are earning money

Post #187 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:24 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/greensboroswarm/status/757639049532309504[/tweet]

Greensboro Swarm ‏@greensboroswarm 13m13 minutes ago
We're pleased to announce Noel Gillespie, a 14-year @NBA staff veteran, is our head coach! Welcome to #Greensboro!

Post #188 » by **fatlever** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:08 pm

We've got 3/5s of a starting lineup for the Swarm now

PG:
SG:
SF: Harrison
PF: Wood
C: Tobey

Post #189 » by **JDR720** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:18 pm

Gabe York signed with some team it Italy, i wanted him for the team.

Post #190 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:18 pm

Technically we don't have Harrison yet, though based on Cliff's comments seems like it's a certainty.

SWedd523 · Post #191 » by **SWedd523** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:31 pm

Why is Air Hair considered a SF now? What did I miss?

Post #192 » by **fatlever** » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:47 pm

SWedd523 wrote:Why is Air Hair considered a SF now? What did I miss?

Hornets said in summer league the wanted him to play on the wing instead of point guard. SG/SF, take your pick.

Post #193 » by **yosemiteben** » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:30 pm

Nice piece on Gillespie: http://www.greensboro.com/blogs/sports_extra/hornets-hire-noel-gillespie-as-greensboro-swarm-s-first-head/article_90367462-6763-5b31-acc2-f11db7c7ae8b.html

HornetJail · Post #194 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:04 pm

SWedd523 wrote:Why is Air Hair considered a SF now? What did I miss?

Because he can't play point... Or shoot... Or guard. And he's too small to play PF or C.

predators · Post #195 » by **predators** » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:44 pm

I'd be curious how much interest the d-league would get if they did start signing top high school prospects to 6 figure salaries. Maybe allow territories for teams to sign local kids. I would imagine if some chris paul level local prospect played for the swarm people would be interested.

Post #196 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Aug 24, 2016 4:31 pm

D-League Digest ‏@DLeagueDigest 1h1 hour ago
Today is the D-League's expansion draft for the 3 newest teams, Greensboro Swarm, Long Island Nets and Windy City Bulls.

D-League Digest ‏@DLeagueDigest 50m50 minutes ago
Draft not made available to the public. League provides results via press release only.

After the draft results are release, we should take a poll of how many names people recognize.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #197 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:01 pm

Greensboro Swarm
Round 1: Josh Davis (Austin Spurs)
Round 2: Abdul Gaddy (Maine Red Claws)
Round 3: Tony Bishop (Rio Grande Valley Vipers)
Round 4: Scotty Hopson (Sioux Falls Skyforce)
Round 5: Toure’ Murry (Sioux Falls Skyforce)
Round 6: Rodney Williams (Oklahoma City Blue)
Round 7: Josh Huestis (Oklahoma City Blue)
Round 8: Ralston Turner (Grand Rapids Drive)
Round 9: Keanau Post (Raptors 905)
Round 10: Damien Wilkins (Iowa Energy)
Round 11: Kris Joseph (Westchester Knicks)
Round 12: Dee Bost (Raptors 905)

EDIT: including image because shows colleges - YB

BlackOutBuzz · Post #198 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:17 pm

Lots of familiar names there. Davis is a Raleigh kid we had in summer league a few years back; ditto with Gaddy, and he also signed a camp deal with us in '13. Hopson was traded here for Haywood and Dwight Powell, but was then traded for cash a day later.

Murry just signed with the Wolves, so you can put him down as a "did not report." Huestis likewise is on his rookie deal with the Thunder, and the fact that he was left unprotected probably means he won't be sent back down. But what if he were? Does OKC have to send him to Greensboro? Probably not, but that's a weird choice.

Turner is of course a State product, and Wilkins signed here last year after MKG went down.

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BlackOutBuzz · Post #199 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:28 pm

Worth a bump.

BlackOutBuzz wrote:Most interesting point from that link: "In last year’s expansion draft, out of the 16 players selected by the Raptors 905, only one suited up for them (Scott Suggs)."

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Post #200 » by **fatlever** » Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:59 pm

Damien Wilkins? LOL, we can't get rid of this guy.